I gave a general comment wasn't calling you silly. you just posted everything I know already, this is discussion forum, never get personal.
U quoted me and replied with this...this was ur opening statement.
This is the silliest thing I have heard so far.
Not only did u just dismiss what I said u also did it with an argument that u didn't even bother to back up, quoted below.
We are muslims and we cant cooperate in anyway to our enemies. We are powerful enough to project power on myanmar. Ask UN to intervene, afterall we are the largest military aided UN country.
Then when I poked holes in ur argument u resort to saying that it wasn't a personal attack...
But just to keep this discussion civil, I'll just take ur word for it and not resort to personal insults.
When I said Military Aided I meant our military has an influence over our countries policy, government and people themselves. we are UN member not that we are giving the highest Aid to UN. However Pakistan's troop size is highest in peace keeping mission, giving highest number of troop by Ethiopia doesn't mean they have conducted the peace keeping missions at full scale of their assign UN troop size.
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Check this link from 2013 index.
Like I said peace keeping missions are just jobs for which our soldiers are financially compensated. This doesn't give us any influence over UN. If we don't supply those troops for those peacekeeping missions, some other country will.
As to the bold part of ur statement. The Arab countries receive the most assistance from our military in terms of training and even manpower. One of these countries is UAE, do u think that we have influence over them? Did u read the news in the past few years? When Pak decided not to be a part of Arab coalition to fight in Yemen, UAE responded by getting closer to India. The largest contingent of our troops is in Saudia Arabia and they too rely a lot on our military in terms of training and support. Do u think we have influence over them? No they have relatively close ties with India and employ more Indians than Pakistanis.
When I said projection of power is through the current regional shift since CPEC and GWADAR and Russian influence of Pakistan
CPEC isn't mature enough yet. It's barely starting out. Russian and Pak ties are also barely starting out and haven't reached the point yet where they have to listen to us.
we can bring this issue on high tide and someway or other we can also ask the powers to pressure Rohingyas to stop the massacre.
All we can do is ask. Whether they listen to us is another question. If the big powers wanted to get involved and solve this issue they would have regardless of if we asked or not. Pak asking them to do something wouldn't change much. But there's no harm in trying it I guess.
On the other hand Pakistan is new to the military market, lot to mature even if Myanmar buys our jf17's there is no way we can pressurize them the way Americans have done to us in past
Yes we are new to the military market and we will remain new if u insist that we axe the JF17 deal to our very first customer. It wouldn't buy us instant influence over them instead it will take a while but the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. Just like Russia has some sway over India since a majority of India's arms are Russian(it's fast changing and India is diversifying its assets but it still applies for now)
Myanmar is not a embargoed country it will just look for other suppliers for planes, china still builds cheaper fighter planes like f7BG for example
Yes if we don't sell them JF17 due to Rohingya massacre, some other country will. We'll lose out on the much needed money and it would be one less customer for JF17...and the Rohingya massacre would continue.
if we some way we ban supplies of jf17 in foreseeable future they will just shift to other suppliers and sell jf17 to a country that is ally to Pakistan so they can use them instead and will buy planes from the new supplier.
Once they have a sizeable number of JF17, it's not as simple as just switching to some other jet. When US embargoed Pak, Pak didn't instantly switch to a new jet and that's how US was able to have some hold on Pak for a while(among their various other ways). It takes a while for militaries to switch entire platforms, especially if it's a developing country. Also I don't think that Pak would or should put instant stop to JF17 support once they have it. Instead make it so appealing that they buy more and more arms from us until they r extremely dependent on us and maybe then we might have some say in their matters.
Conclusion:
Ideally if all the Muslim countries voiced their concerns together about the Rohingya massacre, our voice would be heard. Together the Muslim countries represent a large swath of land with immense resources/military/economy...
but all of them r divided. So this is never going to happen.
This means Pak would find itself alone if Pak tried this. In terms of military power we r certainly stronger than Myanmar but that is a moot point bcuz we can't exert it against them. Economically we r not big enough nor does Myanmar rely on us for anything so they have nothing to lose there.
On international forums we r not a big enough power to have our voice heard.
The only thing we can do for the moment is work hard to make ourselves strong economically/militarily and in every other way so that maybe in the future we wouldn't be as powerless as we r now to stop such incidents.
