My view on Iran

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

I forced to start this thread to show exactly my view on Iran and who I defend, please don't mess up this thread as its for peaceful discussion.

Okay, well I was 8 years old when I alongside my family left Iran and came here in the U.K.
alot of people here think I am an anti-islamic person but in reality I only dislike the Idea of an Islamic Iran, you see I am an atheist and I believe all religions are an Ideology, so I hate the Idea of persians following an arabic ideology called Islam.

When I was on school in Iran and I was about 7 years old I actually won a quran competition, where we had to sing (I don't know what it actually called) some parts of quran, and I actually won, so I was a very religious Person when I was in Iran. when i came to the UK I realised the glory of ancient Iran such as the time of the Zoroastrian kings cyrus,darius etc this was something i did not get taught in Iran because in Iran they keep everything Islamic and I realised how from a young age the regime fills head of the youth with junk and forces them to follow their ideology...I am now extremely anti islamic Iran and always will be. I believe everyone in Iran should have the right to choose their own religion and not get forced, our very great nation of Persian was created in that great image by the great Cyrus...he is a symbol of resistance to current day Iran to me, because he stood for freedom.

My family were Zoroastrian originally but where extremely opressed by the regime to a point where they actually had to follow Islam just to be accepted. My brother was kicked out of uni in Iran just because he said he will always value our ancient root over this current BS.

Even isrealis these days respect out culture more than these other peoples in the region, people like redbeard in this forum disrispect our great religion Zorasotrain by saying we worship fire, which is weird since if that is true then that means muslims must worship mecca since they face it when they pray...Zoroatrians face towards light when they pray whether Its the sun or fire, it does not mean they worship it.

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I dont dislike Islam as a whole, I have pakistani,Iraqi muslim friends who I get on with fine and they respect my opinion, I Hope people in Iran know how I feel, And please dont see me as some sort of enemy of yours, All I want is our nation to be Great again and not be run by another countries culture.

 

[kollang]

i know you as a great iranian who always is ready for defend from our country.
noone cant and couldnt change our great history.redbread,GAMBIT,some arab members could do it?no!

 

[nirreich]

I forced to start this thread to show exactly my view on Iran and who I defend, please don't mess up this thread as its for peaceful discussion.

Okay, well I was 8 years old when I alongside my family left Iran and came here in the U.K.
alot of people here think I am an anti-islamic person but in reality I only dislike the Idea of an Islamic Iran, you see I am an atheist and I believe all religions are an Ideology, so I hate the Idea of persians following an arabic ideology called Islam.

When I was on school in Iran and I was about 7 years old I actually won a quran competition, where we had to sing (I don't know what it actually called) some parts of quran, and I actually won, so I was a very religious Person when I was in Iran. when i came to the UK I realised the glory of ancient Iran such as the time of the Zoroastrian kings cyrus,darius etc this was something i did not get taught in Iran because in Iran they keep everything Islamic and I realised how from a young age the regime fills head of the youth with junk and forces them to follow their ideology...I am now extremely anti islamic Iran and always will be. I believe everyone in Iran should have the right to choose their own religion and not get forced, our very great nation of Persian was created in that great image by the great Cyrus...he is a symbol of resistance to current day Iran to me, because he stood for freedom.

My family were Zoroastrian originally but where extremely opressed by the regime to a point where they actually had to follow Islam just to be accepted. My brother was kicked out of uni in Iran just because he said he will always value our ancient root over this current BS.

Even isrealis these days respect out culture more than these other peoples in the region, people like redbeard in this forum disrispect our great religion Zorasotrain by saying we worship fire, which is weird since if that is true then that means muslims must worship mecca since they face it when they pray...Zoroatrians face towards light when they pray whether Its the sun or fire, it does not mean they worship it.

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I dont dislike Islam as a whole, I have pakistani,Iraqi muslim friends who I get on with fine and they respect my opinion, I Hope people in Iran know how I feel, And please dont see me as some sort of enemy of yours, All I want is our nation to be Great again and not be run by another countries culture.

Thank you for your interesting thoughts.

However, one must face reality: there is a zero chance that Iran will become a non-Islamic country. You should aspire that Iran will become a Muslim state which is a model for pluralism and civil rights, similar to the way Turkey chose. When Iran will be a liberal country, then atheists and all kind of believers could live peacefully in Persia and perhaps revive its ancient glory.

 

[Mosamania]

My view on Iran is this:

Iran has fallen into the pit of Islamic extremism, a pit I am all too familiar with. And a pit we are slowly but successfully getting ourselvesmout from. You see the situation in Iran reminds me greatly of past Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia as it was not a few decades ago. All this anti-Western propaganda and illusions of conspiracy and many others of the same thing that I see daily coming out of Iran or IN Iran itself reminds me of our sad and pitiful past that don't wish anyone falls in ever.

When I hear of all the great efforts Iran puts to "block western" this and "block western" that. It reminds me when religious clerics would raid into homes to inspect reports of "satellite TVs" and stuff like that . They used to do that also to "block western" brain washing and other bull$hit of the same sort. Those were really sad days on our country. And I see Iran falling in the same pit we did all over again. PGK this is not a problem of Islam but it's a political problem mainly. A problem so severe it is quite sad.

Right now things are much much better here. I hope one day Iranians themselves reject all this BS like we did once and focus on the real things in life like we did. It was not an easy process but we came through. Some day Iranian inshallah will also make it through and realize how damaging these political games are to their lives. I know it because I lived through it. And I remember how quite pathetic it was for us.

 

[RazPaK]

My view on Iran is this:

Iran has fallen into the pit of Islamic extremism, a pit I am all too familiar with. And a pit we are slowly but successfully getting ourselvesmout from. You see the situation in Iran reminds me greatly of past Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia as it was not a few decades ago. All this anti-Western propaganda and illusions of conspiracy and many others of the same thing that I see daily coming out of Iran or IN Iran itself reminds me of our sad and pitiful past that don't wish anyone falls in ever.

When I hear of all the great efforts Iran puts to "block western" this and "block western" that. It reminds me when religious clerics would raid into homes to inspect reports of "satellite TVs" and stuff like that . They used to do that also to "block western" brain washing and other bull$hit of the same sort. Those were really sad days on our country. And I see Iran falling in the same pit we did all over again. PGK this is not a problem of Islam but it's a political problem mainly. A problem so severe it is quite sad.

Right now things are much much better here. I hope one day Iranians themselves reject all this BS like we did once and focus on the real things in life like we did. It was not an easy process but we came through. Some day Iranian inshallah will also make it through and realize how damaging these political games are to their lives. I know it because I lived through it. And I remember how quite pathetic it was for us.

You should visit Iran. It is nothing like Saudi, even with Islamic government.

 

[nirreich]

My view on Iran is this:

Iran has fallen into the pit of Islamic extremism, a pit I am all too familiar with. And a pit we are slowly but successfully getting ourselvesmout from. You see the situation in Iran reminds me greatly of past Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia as it was not a few decades ago. All this anti-Western propaganda and illusions of conspiracy and many others of the same thing that I see daily coming out of Iran or IN Iran itself reminds me of our sad and pitiful past that don't wish anyone falls in ever.

When I hear of all the great efforts Iran puts to "block western" this and "block western" that. It reminds me when religious clerics would raid into homes to inspect reports of "satellite TVs" and stuff like that . They used to do that also to "block western" brain washing and other bull$hit of the same sort. Those were really sad days on our country. And I see Iran falling in the same pit we did all over again. PGK this is not a problem of Islam but it's a political problem mainly. A problem so severe it is quite sad.

Right now things are much much better here. I hope one day Iranians themselves reject all this BS like we did once and focus on the real things in life like we did. It was not an easy process but we came through. Some day Iranian inshallah will also make it through and realize how damaging these political games are to their lives. I know it because I lived through it. And I remember how quite pathetic it was for us.

Unlike KSA, Iran has a very strong and modern civil society. Once they get rid of the current terrorist regime, they can only prosper.

 

[Mosamania]

You should visit Iran. It is nothing like Saudi, even with Islamic government.

They are going backwards while we are going forward. When religious clerics are in power it is a dangerous thing. And please do tell what do you think "Saudi" is like?

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Unlike KSA, Iran has a very strong and modern civil society. Once they get rid of the current terrorist regime, they can only proper.

I would tell you to visit here but I don't think you can.

 

[livingdead]

I like this thread in which a persian, an arab and an israeli agree on some basic human values.
Waiting for a comment from a turk.

 

[nirreich]

They are going backwards while we are going forward. When religious clerics are in power it is a dangerous thing. And please do tell what do you think "Saudi" is like?

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I would tell you to visit here but I don't think you can.

Thanks, but I do think I want that.

 

[Holmes]

When I was on school in Iran and I was about 7 years old I actually won a quran competition, where we had to sing (I don't know what it actually called) some parts of quran, and I actually won, so I was a very religious Person when I was in Iran. when i came to the UK I realised the glory of ancient Iran such as the time of the Zoroastrian kings cyrus,darius etc this was something i did not get taught in Iran because in Iran they keep everything Islamic and I realised how from a young age the regime fills head of the youth with junk and forces them to follow their ideology...I am now extremely anti islamic Iran and always will be. I believe everyone in Iran should have the right to choose their own religion and not get forced, our very great nation of Persian was created in that great image by the great Cyrus...he is a symbol of resistance to current day Iran to me, because he stood for freedom.

of course Persia had a glorious past like we did, but its a sad that the Empire's past isn't revealed the way it should have done to make Persians proud of their Culture.

 

[Al Bhatti]

I would tell you to visit here but I don't think you can.

He can if he has 2nd passport

 

[Mosamania]

Thanks, but I do think I want that.

I am on Jeddah now which is a window to Saudi future and it is amazing how far and civilized it has become. And quite frankly the past week I spent here reminds me greatly of the time I spend in turkey.

 

[livingdead]

Guys, dont fight at least on this tread. It gives rest of us great hope that one day things will be great in ME.

 

[nirreich]

I am on Jeddah now which is a window to Saudi future and it is amazing how far and civilized it has become. And quite frankly the past week I spent here reminds me greatly of the time I spend in turkey.

KSA is not the issue of this thread, but KSA situation is completely different than of Iran's. KSA development is connected to its oil reserves, and I do not think it has independent basis for long term technological and educational development. I never been to KSA, so perhaps you right about some changes being made and some places more developed than in the past. However the core problem of KSA is that it is a very religious and very conservative country, so a real civil society is almost impossible. Iran, on the other, already got what it needs to compete in the modern world, all it needs to do is get rid of the current murderers in power.

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Guys, dont fight at least on this tread. It gives rest of us great hope that one day things will be great in ME.

Nice idea, but I do not think a solution will be reach in this thread.

 

[Kaniska]

When human values prevails over religion ..then every one will start liking each other....Basic tenets of each religion but most diffcult part to practice....