my personal 2cent views abut air raid of IAF

[Imran Khan]

"Is PAF better at fighting with Indians or making better songs"

wrong they are better to run businesses

just remember how turks shot down russian fighter jet

 

[indian my friend]

dear friends life is so beautiful and worth to enjoy it . luckily yesterday i have to travel for a seminar today morning when i wake up in hotel news of IAF raid was waiting . but in hassle we have breakfast in lobby and then seminar begins it was very busy day still i mange to post some posts from my mobile . evening i have return flight and then finally i back home tired . but it worth to say something . all in all this seminar saved me from hell of trolling here .

i will start from quote of my favorite philosopher LAO TZU
(i am not hopeless as i have no hope from beginning - lao )

since pulwama attack a 5 years old kid know that there will be no war but india will try to do something like last time hit and run or just bomb and run . congs to them they have achieved the goal . mr modi is winner all the way and indian armed forces restored the faith of their public in them as always .there was not a plan of war from day one by india it was target even some 2 km inside paksitan and india did it

on other hand those whom said a bird can not fly on LOC are still bashing on media . DGISPR giving lame excuses .
1- they show us left hand and slap us from right hand (so they have to inform you war plan ?stupid )

2- no death or property damaged bombs fall on empty land (so anyone can bomb us on empty land and as long as no one die national sovereignty can be compromised ? stupid again mr its not about loss its they crossed border is more important )


3- we will retaliate (i still remember how you guys retaliate when indians shot down our atlantic killed 16 men or when you guys retaliate osama raid or your retaliate of many nato US attacks on pakistan )

here i another factor mighty PAF . since first drone attack in 2004 killed naik mohmmad i start losing trust on them and then day by day attack after attack they have failed and failed and failed always .next 5 years until 2010 i have lost full faith in them . i have no hope from the Pakistani forces that is why i never been angry sad dissipated or feel bad now . i am enjoying my life as always . this force it totally living in some other world . nato forces were keep killing dozens of Pakistani solders on salala for over two hours . osama raid took place some 3 hours and drones keep flying 1000s of hours but this mighty force never reacted .

another hands indians already win the situation and there is no Pakistani voice on indian media all stories are as per plan and indian media convoy the massage to indian public already no one can reverse it only if PAF shot down one of them or at least fight with them then they can save face but they lost as always .they have very good chance to hot pursuit fire some missile drop some bombs on indian side at that sortie . what they did nothing nil 0.000 . that was the time which they were chest thumping since last 15 days but its missed again as always . that sortie was worth million dollars which lost doing nothing .

last dear fan boys where was your long range AWACS last night again ? the mighty saab whom can see as soon as indian aircraft took off from base ? where was radars liek tps -77 with 350km range ?where was long range SAM batteries ? no one even dare to use SPADA CROTALE LY-80 last night all these toys are for parade . don't you guys claim PAF can shot down indian fighters inside india ? while here we see you can not shot them even if they fly inside paksitan .let me remember when last time PAF shot down an indian fighter jet ? 50 years ago ? may be

now what even if PAF try to drop some bombs or paksitan army try to fire some rockets it will not be big news it will be as always .

Pakistani forces as a whole failed again because modi goal was not was he was looking for hit and run and he did it already .while Pakistanis job was not to give him chance they failed so . other question is where was PAF on LOC while we all know LOC is hot border . it not should PAF have radar info of IAF jets coming toward Pakistan some 15 minutes before they cross border ? sure IAF did not took off from border but far behind somewhere from an air base .

and last please try to drop some pay load at Indian side of border and we will see . hit the target or not indians have guts to cross LOC while you guys can not . at least show us might as much as indians showed . or make another song on PAF flying jets dropping bombs and playing gittar in front of fighters as always .
if Pakistani forces can not defend own borders why they create such proxies ? its high time they stop creating supporting Kashmirs fight or else we will loss our little remaining pride as a nation too . we have been enough humiliated by such proxies .
now you guys will keep fighting PAF fans will keep massive threads opening and all bla bla bla nothing will come out . while i will keep enjoying it

Imran sir galti ho gayi paf se ye kam sam network ka tha paf ka nhi.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

wrong they are better to run businesses

Do you rember the excuse for OBL raid? Our radars were pointing towards India and American's come up our a*ss. This time the Indians came from the front and they were in state of red alert. What's excuse now? Our radars were pointing toward Afghanistan and Indian's failed to call us on the mobile?

And then in Kargil PAF managed to studiously avoid getting tangled with IAF. I won't even mention PN which is always busy chasing Somali pirates or guarding our non existent export trade routes.

Wtf???

 

[TMA]

Ask yourself this question. When have PAF or the Navy taken any combat losses? I don't mean using Jdams from 4 miles high against a TTP fighter with a pistol? Or the navy chasing some Somali pirates rowing a wooden boat? I mean fighting against a aggressor who can hurt? Probably more then 50 years ago.

Instead they have over the decades become military versions of PIA. Just rackets to easy money, positions, some property investments and jobs either in PIA or ports or shipping after retirement. You can measure the state they are in when TTP managed to ingress into PAF base and destroy parked aircraft. If they can't fcukin protect the airbases and their own aircraft from some punks you expect to defend the countries air borders?

The army with respect is differant. They live on the LOC everyday. They lose men everyday. They have fought in FATA and lost huge number of men. So the army has been bloodied. Officers and men have spilled blood. I have no doubt that the army would fight hard against Indian aggression. This is not a "show shaw" outfit. But the real thing ...

Pakistan is a bit like Germany during WWII. The only military force Germany really had was her land forces, the Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe whilst tactically brilliant at times just could not muster up to the challenge for many reasons...It seems similar with Pakistan...

 

[VCheng]

Do you rember the excuse for OBL raid? Our radars were pointing towards India and American's come up our a*ss. This time the Indians came from the front and they were in state of red alert. What's excuse now? Our radars were pointing toward Afghanistan and Indian's failed to call us on the mobile?

And then in Kargil PAF managed to studiously avoid getting tangled with IAF. I won't even mention PN which is always busy chasing Somali pirates or guarding our non existent export trade routes.

Wtf???

Do you seriously believe all that we are told?

 

[indian my friend]

Pakistan is a bit like Germany during WWII. The only military force Germany really had was her land forces, the Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe whilst tactically brilliant at times just could not muster up to the challenge for many reasons...It seems similar with Pakistan...

No comparison.

Do you rember the excuse for OBL raid? Our radars were pointing towards India and American's come up our a*ss. This time the Indians came from the front and they were in state of red alert. What's excuse now? Our radars were pointing toward Afghanistan and Indian's failed to call us on the mobile?

And then in Kargil PAF managed to studiously avoid getting tangled with IAF. I won't even mention PN which is always busy chasing Somali pirates or guarding our non existent export trade routes.

Wtf???

10/10 comment

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Ps. Members will know me as regularly asking that PAF and Navy need downsizing. Build some schools, hospitals, panah ghars for the poor please. Army is differant. We need it for internal/external duties. Even then we need to cap on anymore big armour purchases.

 

[RaGotimaar]

bro no one is saint here but i feel if pakistanis are losing then do some damage control and give up this mess . its not worth man .but you can not blame only pakistani eleite and military for all this . somehow your country have own shear in mess .

Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Don't disagree ki 1948 main start Pakistan govt ne ki thi yeh bakchodi aur war start. Uske Baad bas chal Rahi hai. Now the onus is on Pakistan to stop this obsession with Kashmir and accept loc as international boundary and some concessions can be given to facilitate movement of goods and people in Kashmir as a whole.

Indian people have more control over their government and elite and army. If Pakistan just gives up its K obsession and accepts loc as IB and extends hand of peace and friendship via joint raids on terrorists. All Indians will accept Pakistan as it's ally

 

[Imran Khan]

Imran sir galti ho gayi paf se ye kam sam network ka tha paf ka nhi.

where are those sams these days ?

 

[indian my friend]

Ps. Members will know me as regularly asking that PAF and Navy need downsizing. Build some schools, hospitals, panah ghars for the poor please. Army is differant. We need it for internal/external duties. Even then we need to cap on anymore big armour purchases.

Yes i hope

where are those sams these days ?

How do i know i am from india but that is the standard these days to operate fast surface to air missiles pakistan have such missiles isnt it?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

No comparison.

There is some similiarity. Luftwaffe's overall contribution to the German war effort was utter failure. It continously failed on all fronts. The German Naval submarine performed better but rest of the fleet was only good for hiding in ports or being sunk. The real fighting was done by the German landforces ~ Wehrmach and Waffen-SS. It was they who kept the allies and Russians tangled for years. In that sense Pakistan is rather similiar.

 

[VCheng]

There is some similiarity. Luftwaffe's overall contribution to the German war effort was utter failure. It continously failed on all fronts. The German Naval submarine performed better but rest of the fleet was only good for hiding in ports or being sunk. The real fighting was done by the German landforces ~ Wehrmach and Waffen-SS. It was they who kept the allies and Russians tangled for years. In that sense Pakistan is rather similiar.

Didn't the dive bombers pave the way in front of the blitzkrieg?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

On the British side the RAF really performed well and above other services, with navy coming second and army being the least effective.

 

[TMA]

No comparison.


10/10 comment

Ok. Pakistan is a lot worse in military terms but Pakistan's navy and airforce are weaker than they need to be and the army seems to fill the gaps....

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Didn't the dive bombers pave the way in front of the blitzkrieg?

In the first few months of the war and even then it was the Panzers Divisions that did the hammer and smash. The first test of Luftwaffe was against in Battle of Brotain and it failed miserably.