My imam father came after me with an axe

[AliFarooq]

Rajkumar, you should go watch, Videsh a bollywood movie. Its a good movie i recomend it to you. Ruined the movie by adding the sheesh nag.

 

[duhastmish]

Sorry for being odd minded but - kharian - i think arranged marriage is some how a better institution than love marriage.
Arrange marriage is system where two family become one- and hence you have bigger support level and understanding.
Arrange marriage have nothing to do with forced marriage.

 

[AliFarooq]

Sorry for being odd minded but - kharian - i think arranged marriage is some how a better institution than love marriage.
Arrange marriage is system where two family become one- and hence you have bigger support level and understanding.
Arrange marriage have nothing to do with forced marriage.

Agreed, just look at the American divorce rates.

 

[Kharian_Beast]

Sorry for being odd minded but - kharian - i think arranged marriage is some how a better institution than love marriage.
Arrange marriage is system where two family become one- and hence you have bigger support level and understanding.
Arrange marriage have nothing to do with forced marriage.

If the arranged marriage has the willing consent of the couple than I also have no problem with it. However it is an abused system with its inherent flaws nonetheless, and many times it blurs the line between a forced marriage and simply an arranged one.

 

[duhastmish]

sir ITS Abused system because its been abused by people. I tell you abuse in a love marriage is much more than in arrange marriage. kind of distrust and unfaithfulness shown in that system is much more available. I can tell you its a abused system thats why we have such high divorce rate.
I am not saying that forced marriage is right or any b.s like that. I am just saying forced marriage is a human mind creation to abuse a very good system. Where all important issue are taken care of: such as reputation, wealth , vocation, religion, language and physical aspects.
So if you want to abuse you can abuse any system. personally i would not liek to be in a arranged marirage system. but there are reasons for it.

 

[Kharian_Beast]

sir ITS Abused system because its been abused by people.

I think finally we can conclude this thread by duhastmish's admission and astute observation. People should use this as a effective counter anytime cheap stories are conjured up with the sole aim of degrading a certain religion or people.

My work here is done.

 

[Rajkumar]

Now you're twisting the content and going off-topic.

Since when are forced marriages the equivalent of rape, and since when were forced marriages restricted within Pakistani communities (the definition of "forced" in this case is very vague, and could apply universally to an extent). They are equally common within Indian communities. Here are examples Hindus and Sikh going through forced marriages, rape, incest, and whatever.

The survivors of forced marriages tell their stories | World news | The Observer

Stop being such a rabid Hindu fanatic before you get banned.

hehe. hindu fanatic....me?????
hahaha
do u know me? what kind of person i am ?
forced marriages are in india too but that wasn't my point earlier. i wanted tell people that forced marriages of above case are related to religious rigidness.Pk-Britishers are afraid that their daughters will marry white guys this way they will loose their 'din'. '' hamari aulaad bedin ho jayegi. islam aur allah ki inayat se mehroom ho jaygi. is himakat ko rokane ke liye ,jayaz najayaz jo bhi tarika ikhtiyaar karna pade, kia jaye"[parents are educated people still they believe in this] this is major reason of forced marriage of this kind. parents send their daughters to pakistan by tricks and marry them with somebody. can you imagine how hard that can be for her?

article wasn't only concentrated on incest relationship. it has other aspects too, i took one.

 

[Rajkumar]

Rajkumar, you should go watch, Videsh a bollywood movie. Its a good movie i recomend it to you. Ruined the movie by adding the sheesh nag.

can you give me specifics because i don't know which movie is this. IMDB dont have any database of this movie. it can be 'Pardes' or 1978's desh videsh?

 

[duhastmish]

dude videsh you didnt see that ad on television ??? abotu this girl getting married outside india ? priety zinta

Deepa Mehta movie.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1146285/

http://www.zimbio.com/Preity+Zinta/articles/379/Preity+Zinta+Videsh+movie+review+movie+preview

 

[AliFarooq]

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[leonblack08]

i wanted tell people that forced marriages of above case are related to religious rigidness.Pk-Britishers are afraid that their daughters will marry white guys this way they will loose their 'din'. '' hamari aulaad bedin ho jayegi. islam aur allah ki inayat se mehroom ho jaygi. is himakat ko rokane ke liye ,jayaz najayaz jo bhi tarika ikhtiyaar karna pade, kia jaye"[parents are educated people still they believe in this] this is major reason of forced marriage of this kind. parents send their daughters to pakistan by tricks and marry them with somebody. can you imagine how hard that can be for her?

I guess you watched "Namastey London",what does that show?The father didn't want her daughter to get married to a "gora",so he tricked her to get married in India.
What will you call this?rascism?

 

[notsuperstitious]

Such cases, even if true have nothing whatever to do with religion. this is just an individual's failure and society's conservatism.

However conservatism always tries to claim and overtake religion. This is something we must guard against.

 

[leonblack08]

Such cases, even if true have nothing whatever to do with religion. this is just an individual's failure and society's conservatism.

However conservatism always tries to claim and overtake religion. This is something we must guard against.

You are right
This is a problem with the society not the religion,not any religion.

 

[Torpedo]

Not really. Saddam couldn't even prove a negative. You can use circumstantial evidence such as selling a book, or the subsequent conversion (as pointed out, why convert if it was simply one man doing this)? Combine all the facts, and there is not a small chance that the case may be faked, there is a fairly large chance.

It was only much later we found out Hirsi Ali lied in most of what she said about being raped and molested by her fathers and brothers and made into a servant for her male relatives. Of course it was probably the other way round, and she treated them like crap, before deciding they were not good enough for her, and applying as a "victim" in the west seeking asylum. Why make such a worthless person into a celebrity.

You call these things evidence? These are not even remotely related with the issue. Even having similar case in past doesn't mean everything should go in the same way.

There are many possibilities. No girl gets this much knowledge from nowhere. May be someone is using her.

I mean it is useless to talk about anything like this. This helps neither positively, nor negatively.

And last thing, I don't blame Islam for this. No one should do it. But please, don't insult anybody until you know the facts.

 

[TopCat]

I am not going to read the article.

But! Why does a father raping you..will make you leave the Islamic religion?

It should effect the relationship between you and your father. Not what you weakly believed in.

She probably thought Christian men lost all their potency through overuse and she feels safe now on their lap...