'My Family Has Been Broken': Pakistanis Fear For Uighur Wives Held In China

[Yankee-stani]

Those who adopt these attributes like Turks, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Singaporans etc will succeed.

I like Turkey and I am glad your average Turk is not a Erdogan lover but seriously on the geo-political order for Pakistan they dont share the same when it comes to Afghanistan they supported the Uzbeks and the Northern Alliance and they pushed this Uighur narrative way too much I get it their kin to them but dont drag Pakistan to this matter

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I like Turkey and I am glad your average Turk is not a Erdogan lover but seriously on the geo-political order for Pakistan they dont share the same when it comes to Afghanistan they supported the Uzbeks and the Northern Alliance and they pushed this Uighur narrative way too much I get it their kin to them but dont drag Pakistan to this matter

No two countries converge on everything. Inevitably there is some divergenc even between brothers.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Yes, cause we all know, no peace and stability, no development. Xinjiang's rapid development with the highest GDP growth rate in China in recent years completely changed Xinjaing from a remote backward desolate backwater into a modern society with the infrastructures that can easily beat any western cities in the world and people's living standard had been dramatically improved. Such a prosperous Xinjiang really worries the west but we feel very happy to make them worry and feel frustrated.

Well well lets see why the West is croaking about this
https://www.hydrocarbons-technology...leum-invest-22bn-xinjiang-oil-gas-operations/

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/The-Mega-Oil-Field-That-Will-Never-Boom.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/chi...xinjiang-oil-gas-output-by-2020-idUSL4N1UL1NG
https://www.rigzone.com/news/wire/c...ng_in_reform_push-05-dec-2017-152677-article/

@Indus Pakistan largest reserves in Central Asia much more that the Former Soviet Republics

I am down with cold so I am really struggling with typing as I sneeze like crazy but these tests are loaded. Education is extremely poor in Pakistan. Please don't go by that. We can whip the Germans anytime.

I got throat problem and wattery eyes I need to get out of the northeast and spend time in Texas or Arizona where I got family down there over the next holiday weekend

No two countries converge on everything. Inevitably there is some divergenc even between brothers.

Thats correct but I hate when the Turks croak about the Uighurs to us when its not our problem I still love them, same goes with Trade with China some disagreements there and with Azerbaijan which has realtions with Israel

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Thats correct but I hate when the Turks croak about the Uighurs to us when its not our problem I still love them

I just stay clear from that. Best to go 'mum'.

 

[Yankee-stani]

I just stay clear from that. Best to go 'mum'.

To be fair when the Yanks or West croak something about Human Rights know its a farce, you must have heard of this diplomatic term used by some diplomats "the Islam Card" basically the West will only croak about rights abuse of Muslims when they see a geo-startegic goal or if there is any natural resource in particular country

 

[Indus Pakistan]

To be fair when the Yanks or West croak something about Human Rights know its a farce, you must have heard of this diplomatic term used by some diplomats "the Islam Card" basically the West will only croak about rights abuse of Muslims when they see a geo-startegic goal or if there is any natural resource in particular country

They call that realpolitiks. The better you play it the more you gain. Pakistani's need to learn this.

 

[Yankee-stani]

They call that realpolitiks. The better you play it the more you gain. Pakistani's need to learn this.

I hope Pakistan ends up playing that type of diplomacy enough with this emotional attachment to Saudi and Gulf Wahhabism and no more Richard Reids coming to our country to work against our people and those namak haramis using our passports

 

[TMA]

I am down with cold so I am really struggling with typing as I sneeze like crazy but these tests are loaded. Education is extremely poor in Pakistan. Please don't go by that. We can whip the Germans anytime.

Yes education is very bad in Pakistan no doubt...but schools don't make minds...minds make schools.... (of course education has a massive part but the point I am getting at is - "Nature" has a role and please don't neglect that).

Also the IQ test that I quoted is "culture fair". https://brainstats.com.
It does not require much education at all. Just eyes and a mind that works.

I am down with cold so I am really struggling with typing as I sneeze like crazy but these tests are loaded. Education is extremely poor in Pakistan. Please don't go by that. We can whip the Germans anytime.

Take the test. The full test cost about 10 quid when I did about two years ago. See for yourself.

To be fair when the Yanks or West croak something about Human Rights know its a farce, you must have heard of this diplomatic term used by some diplomats "the Islam Card" basically the West will only croak about rights abuse of Muslims when they see a geo-startegic goal or if there is any natural resource in particular country

They did this in Bosnia/Yugoslavia.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I hope Pakistan ends up playing that type of diplomacy enough with this emotional attachment to Saudi and Gulf Wahhabism and no more Richard Reids coming to our country to work against our people and those namak haramis using our passports

This how friends of Pakistan even feel about this ..

"Back home in France, she was the first choice for media whenever they needed an opinion on Pakistan and was often accused of being soft and biased in support of Pakistan. Whenever an act of terrorism occurs in Europe, I lay out my prayer mat and start praying ‘God let there be no Pakistani connection’ in the incident, even before the media calls for opinion, she once said while discussing media perception of Pakistan in the West."

http://tns.thenews.com.pk/friend-pakistan/

 

[Yankee-stani]

Yes education is very bad in Pakistan no doubt...but schools don't make minds...minds make schools.... (of course education has a massive part but the point I am getting at is - "Nature" has a role and please don't neglect that).
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Education isnt the problem we can educate but there will still be the wahhabists we need to change the mentality of the country first

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

It's not a question of liking it. It's reality. Would you want to raise this issue with the most powerful man on earth? To gauge the reaction why not talk about this issue with Chinese members on PDF and see the reaction?

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They can play with my balls.

This is wrong. These bc agog magog ppl ... cqnt trust em ...let alone letting them in our country...

What they are doing will change the preception of the people.. which in the long term may not emd well.

 

[Yankee-stani]

They did this in Bosnia/Yugoslavia.[/QUOTE]

Ahh Poor Yugoslavia I know many people in the balkans who miss Tito and Yugoslavia back then they were a strong country a buffer between the West and Soviet Russia had great diplomatic networks shame when Tito died in 1980 the leadership that took over like Slobadan Milosevic had to play western games and now look at the Balkans now just a poor region of Europe and puppets of the West and Russia

 

[TMA]

Education isnt the problem we can educate but there will still be the wahhabists we need to change the mentality of the country first

Yes. The mentality is a great problem...we let our emotions run us too much...hence why such mentalities can take root so quickly in Pakistan....and we are emotional by "nature".
Bring back the Orthodox Sufi mentality....this is how Islam spread in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bharat...and by Orthodox I do not mean people ripping others off at a Shrine and taking them for a ride...

They did this in Bosnia/Yugoslavia.

Ahh Poor Yugoslavia I know many people in the balkans who miss Tito and Yugoslavia back then they were a strong country a buffer between the West and Soviet Russia had great diplomatic networks shame when Tito died in 1980 the leadership that took over like Slobadan Milosevic had to play western games and now look at the Balkans now just a poor region of Europe and puppets of the West and Russia[/QUOTE]
I think Bosnia has a large NATO base....

 

[Yankee-stani]

Yes. The mentality is a great problem...we let our emotions run us too much...hence why such mentalities can take root so quickly in Pakistan....and we are emotional by "nature".
Bring back the Orthodox Sufi mentality....this is how Islam spread in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bharat...and by Orthodox I do not mean people ripping others off at a Shrine and taking them for a ride...

Also the State needs to control the clerics and make sure they tell the followers to focus on building Pakistan than burning shops, and tire even the Clerical led Iran did this after 1979.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad_of_Construction

I think Bosnia has a large NATO base....[/QUOTE]

Thats Kosovo but Bosnia still has NATO presence Bosnia isnt a country its a federation of Bosniaks,Croats,and Serbs the Govt has no power but the EU appointed commisoner runs the country

 

[TMA]

Also the State needs to control the clerics and make sure they tell the followers to focus on building Pakistan than burning shops, and tire even the Clerical led Iran did this after 1979.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad_of_Construction

I think Bosnia has a large NATO base....

Thats Kosovo but Bosnia still has NATO presence Bosnia isnt a country its a federation of Bosniaks,Croats,and Serbs the Govt has no power but the EU appointed commisoner runs the country[/QUOTE]
I see....thanks for the clarification...

The State needs to cleanse herself of traitors before anything can really happen...