My Faith is on Trail once again .. why ?

[livingdead]

@rockstar08 you seem too emotional.. dil pe mat le yar..
@ranjeet do ghoont ise bhi pila de sharabi...

 

[JonAsad]

lol my freedom of Speech last time didnt goes well

Dont let the over emotional stupid people put limit on your freedom of speech. Tell them to deal with it.

 

[rockstar08]

@rockstar08 you seem too emotional.. dil pe mat le yar..
@ranjeet do ghoont ise bhi pila de sharabi...

Chal khair ho gae ... darooo chor day bhai , lemo pani pe lay

Dont let the over emotional stupid people put limit on your freedom of speech. Tell them to deal with it.

yeah bro

 

[xyxmt]

Why After every terrorist attack in west, the Muslims have to prove it to the world that they are not terrorist and no with the Ideology of Terrorism ? Its not that there are no incident where Muslims were brutally Slaughtered by Non-Muslims , why " Radical " word is just reserved for Muslims now ? almost every News Channel ,keep putting it in their headline , associating Terrorist as " Islamic " how many time Muslims have to come out and give the testimony of their Faith ?? and will this ever end ?

I am a Muslim to , i never hurt anyone in my life , I respect other Religions as much i respect Mine , i dont react violently when i see any Insulting Cartoon or Movie about our Prophet's on Internet ,but i move on with a small Wish that " May Allah give them Guidance " but what hurts me when i see Media , who associate my Religion with those blood thirty demons , who justify the Killings of Children's ...

If i am good ,its because what my Religion taught me, and if i have anything bad its because of my own faults, but still every time any incident happen in west , my whole faith and religion be put in the trail , Mistakes of some become curse for many ? why ??

People want secular Muslims to step up and fight , but Question is which media have time for secular Muslims ? when did the last time any western media present Islam form a different Prospectus ? there is no flaws in Islam but in those who are misleading and preaching it to others , I dont Blame a common man who is living in west , a life where he work , go out with friends , beaches and Parks, chill in Clubs .. when he experience a Terrorist attack , what kind of feeling they have about certain people , but Media ....they do the work of Petrol in the fire , Instead of trying to differentiate between Terrorist and Muslims , they rise question like " does a Muslim living in your neighborhood can be trusted " anyone in west and there might be many who have Muslim friends at their college or work , just because of same headline repeating thousands of time over the TV makes them think , that can we even trust the guy whom we call our friend for so many years ??

Saying "La illaha illal la , Muhammadur Rasool Allah " is just enough to be Muslim ?? by having name like Osama , Baghdadi , Omar etc makes you a Muslim ? having a beard is the testimony for being a Muslim ?? ( my skin is the way , i dont have much beard , so does that mean i cant be a Muslim ) ? i didnt go out shooting Allah ho Akbar , everything someone Insult or make fun of my Prophets , so does this action take me the right to be a Muslim ? I am not even punctual with Salah , i dont wear a Salwaar Kameez with high , so does my dressing now present me as a muslim ? Salah , Hajj , Fast is we do for Allah , its his right to punish me for not doing it, i dont offer my Salah for my imam,he has no right to point finger at me and call me a Kafir ....than what does make a Muslim a Real Muslim ?

Been secular mean a true Muslim ?? just because you stand up with idea mostly people follow makes you the right person ?? What is our identity ? Wearing Jeans, Glasses , sneakers , dressed up like a burger , go over the internet , Talk to peoples , what it does achieve ? a Muslim in west spend his life making good Friends who can trust him ,and one Attack like this put his everything , friendship , Loyalty , Nationalism and even humanity on trail ? is that supposed to be like this ??

I Wish that this Madness of Extremism will end soon , Obviously with out peoples from all over the world , some bunch of Muslims cant do it alone .. In today's world only few types are accepted , and dont see as threat Kids under 10 , old peoples aged 80+ , self hating Muslims , Malala's ...... where and when did a Common Muslim stands in the news headlines of Western Countries ? but right after any incident , suddenly the common Muslim become the prime target for the Media ....why ???

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I dont know why you people worry about it, its a good thing.
Just let the things roll and when the dust settles we will all know the reason behind this chaos.

 

[jbond197]

- because you call other muslims as "brothers" making other people unequal
- because you treat other religions an faiths as "lesser" as shown by the number of minorities living in the islamic countries
- because the crime is committed in the name of the religion
- because you claim equal rights to practice religion in other countries but fail to demand rights for minorities to practice their own religion in your countries
- because you use the "right to expression" in other countries to express yourself but deny that to other faiths in your countries
- because you claim that every terrorist action is a "response" to some form of provocation but fail to understand that the "response" was also due to some form of provocation from the islamic nut jobs
- because,you claim that the terrorist is the victim here - some poor hapless soul who couldnt stop his anger about his faith being abused- much like the rapist being shown as the victim for not being able to control his senses.
- because after the attack on charlie hebdo, you chose to show the "double standards" as a condoning factor
- because after boko haram, this sort of outrage did not come up from you guys
- because after the destruction of the bamiyan budha, none of you guys took up jihad against those pigs

I care less of any religion. But if you don respect other faiths, dont expect them to respect you. and people like you create distubances between faiths because of your "holier than thou" attitude.
if you claim your "faith" is superior than a "pagan cult", then the "pagan cult" has every right to reciprocate.

Very well put my friend!! Everything you said is a fact and it clearly shows the hypocrisy of Muslims who care the least for others but want others to care the most for them. I know they will never accept it now when they are at the task of defending their faith...

I see some complaining here that people are not distinguishing between extremists and normal Islamist. But how is anyone going to find the difference between two? See It is clear today that the ones who are killing at most of the places are Muslims. Also, the people who are joining terrorist organizations like ISIS /Taliban/LET etc are normal looking and practicing muslims so pray tell us how can we figure out that a normal looking Muslim guy in front of us does not turn out to be an ISIS/Taliban/LET extremists. Do they wear different clothes? Do they sport different looks? Can you identify them by looks? Simple fact is they are as Muslim as any other normal Muslim and they draw the inspiration from the same holy book. Now this is different story that they may have a different interpretation but then the larger question is why are the teachings of the holy book open to such extremist interpretations? why are they not clear and precise in passing its message of peace which the Muslims claim it does? In short, for the outside world it will be very difficult to distinguish two brands of Islam because it draw people from the same set and draw inspiration from the same book. So please don't blame us because we are not the gods!! Blame your weakness for not passing the message correctly..

 

[My-Analogous]

I would not. My earlier post was indicating that problem is not perceived by west only. India china Africa etc have same perception. Why.

You guys asked your self when someone to put you all on the wall.

 

[rockstar08]

My Freedom of Speech dont allow me to Insult anyone ...regardless of his religion ,race or color .... we all are on same page when it comes to Freedom of Speech, but some peoples misuse the Freedom , that's human nature ...

 

[livingdead]

My Freedom of Speech dont allow me to Insult anyone ...regardless of his religion ,race or color .... we all are on same page when it comes to Freedom of Speech, but some peoples misuse the Freedom , that's human nature ...

the real test of 'freedom of speech' is when its painful for you to hear, but you still tolerate.
Whats the point of 'freedom of speech' if we are only being nice to each other, saying things which are agreeble. Besides what you find offensive is rather funny for me or vice versa.

You are drawing a line at religion( say anything you want but not my religion). That has few problems.
1. Its arbitrary
2. The number of religions in the world runs into hundreds and we are potentially offending somebody or other
3. Some of the things said might actually be true but you dont believe because its your religion, hence offensive to you. (much easier if you can imagine another religion and some of the things you think is true about them, but they wont believe you).

 

[rockstar08]

the real test of 'freedom of speech' is when its painful for you to hear, but you still tolerate.
Whats the point of 'freedom of speech' if we are only being nice to each other, saying things which are agreeble. Besides what you find offensive is rather funny for me or vice versa.

You are drawing a line at religion( say anything you want but not my religion). That has few problems.
1. Its arbitrary
2. The number of religions in the world runs into hundreds and we are potentially offending somebody or other
3. Some of the things said might actually be true but you dont believe because its your religion, hence offensive to you. (much easier if you can imagine another religion and some of the things you think is true about them, but they wont believe you).

well i see it as offensive as a human being ..my moral values dont allow me to Cartoonize a person who is holy to at least 1.5 billions peoples living around the globe ... as far as my freedom of speech is concern , let me give some Awesome Maa, behn ki Galiyan ... but dont get offended just my freedom of Expression

 

[livingdead]

well i see it as offensive as a human being ..my moral values dont allow me to Cartoonize a person who is holy to at least 1.5 billions peoples living around the globe ... as far as my freedom of speech is concern , let me give some Awesome Maa, behn ki Galiyan ... but dont get offended just my freedom of Expression

well then you are quite happy to wear crocodile t shirt, knowing fully well that it is worshipped as god in some tribes..
just because they are less in number(and probably got no internet), and may not even know about the t-shirt does not make it morally any better.

About maa behn ki galiyan, yes, I will be offened, but wont kill you. I will probably exercise my freedom of expression in a similar manner...

 

[rockstar08]

well then you are quite happy to wear crocodile t shirt, knowing fully well that it is worshipped as god in some tribes..
just because they are less in number(and probably got no internet), and may not even know about the t-shirt does not make it morally any better.

About maa behn ki galiyan, yes, I will be offened, but wont kill you. I will probably exercise my freedom of expression in a similar manner...

i never wear a Crocodile t-shirt dude ... and dude , still there is a difference between a animal and a human ... hopefully you know that ...

and yes exactly my point , if i Give you Maa behn ki galiyan ,you will not sit quite .. and you wont kill me because Galiyan are not that extreme insult ... those are just words , but now imagine if i make a **** video of your mother and sister and upload it on internet , let the world see it ... than what you will be doing ?? there are tons of cases all over the world where some guys posted Se>< videos on internet , and their relatives or brothers , husbands etc, kill the person in retaliation ...
there is always a limit in every Freedom dude ..

and there is no offense in this post, i just try to explain to you my point ... sorry if i hurt your sentiment
you are always my brother in enemy outfit lolzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[RAMPAGE]

@rockstar08

Such innocence! why apologize? why explain? They provoke us and try to pick a fight with us and what do we do? we apologize. maa ki *** in goron ki! han hai terrorists hum! Jo patt saktay hain patt lain fir!

 

[livingdead]

i never wear a Crocodile t-shirt dude ... and dude , still there is a difference between a animal and a human ... hopefully you know that ...

and yes exactly my point , if i Give you Maa behn ki galiyan ,you will not sit quite .. and you wont kill me because Galiyan are not that extreme insult ... those are just words , but now imagine if i make a **** video of your mother and sister and upload it on internet , let the world see it ... than what you will be doing ?? there are tons of cases all over the world where some guys posted Se>< videos on internet , and their relatives or brothers , husbands etc, kill the person in retaliation ...
there is always a limit in every Freedom dude ..

and there is no offense in this post, i just try to explain to you my point ... sorry if i hurt your sentiment
you are always my brother in enemy outfit lolzzzzzzzzzzz

lolz.. I did not take offence.. I have thick skin of a crocodile (oops did I offend somebody?) .. apologies..
you again seem to completely disregard the logic (or lack of) when it comes to religion.For you the crocodile is an animal and prophet is... well prophet. To the tribal, crocodile is god, and prophet is mere human.. (probably tasty meat because not from same tribe)


Are you suggesting that a follower of Sai baba will be happy if I write in a article that sai baba is a fake godman?
Now I am not stupid to say it in his face, and I will understand if he causes bodily harm to me, because the anger is understandable.
What is going to be really crazy, if sai baba people start killing anybody who writes anything even slightest against their godman.

 

[rockstar08]

@rockstar08

Such innocence! why apologize? why explain? They provoke us and try to pick a fight with us and what do we do? we apologize. maa ki *** in goron ki! han hai terrorists hum! Jo patt saktay hain patt lain fir!

now that is something i call True Punching Reply ...
love you bro

 

[RAMPAGE]

@rockstar08

Wo kehtay hain kai Mun khai tai akh sharmai. Hum un kai baap ka tou nahi khatay. Leave the apologies for the ones who do.