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That is a sick philosophy my friend. Where was your Punjabi Establishment when Zardari was eating entire country with both hands? Shame to see you are lost in these idiotic rhetoric when real problems are evident on the surface. What has Punjabi or Baluchi or Makrani Establishment got to do with crimes and terrorism in Karachi? Whoever is responsible for crimes should be nailed and fixed.

I am Punjabi and I stand for investigation and punishment for the Punjabis responsible for killings in Model Town. How would you describe my Punjabism with I demanding prosecution against Punjabis?

You have been fed with filty stories by people who have sqeezed blood and future out of you. Who has been ruling Sindh? Who has been ruling Baluchistan? Who has been ruling KPK? Who is responsible for slowest growth ever recorded in Sindh? Who is responsible for hundred of deaths of children in Thar and Makran? F* Punjabi Establishment? Now somebody stands and ask inquiry against the responsible ones.. your $hity stories come up bashing Punjabis and Establishment - so the real terrorists and criminals may stay free and you keep changing "Punjabi Establishment $hit".
When was the last time we saw Rangers or Army ever being used to Crackdown Banned Organization operating from Punjab just like the way it happening in Karachi now a days?When Karachiite ask for Administrative Unit separate from Sindh all of a sudden it becomes Racism, When we point out Existence of Taliban in Karachi City we become Racist, When we ask to abolish Qouta System we become Racist, When we ask for Local Law Enforcement Setup we become Racist. Is there anything in the World which we can ask for Karachi and Doesnt become Racist?These are not a demand of Certain Ethnicity but they are overall Citizens demand because Karachi is more precious here along with all the identities that live in this City. Karachi has been Ignored to the teeth in terms of Development since 40 years now we had KCR(Karachi Circular Railways) that was Mass Transit system but it all Stopped due to Corruption of new Administration Introduced after Quota System so things are only Taken Away from Citizens since last 40 years instead of providing the City which Actually Contributes to the economy.

Punjabi or not Punjabi doesnt even Matter here what actually Matters here is ATTITUDE and their Attitude towards Karachi is Quite Discriminatory and that is the bone of Contention that needs to Address.
 
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When was the last time we saw Rangers or Army ever being used to Crackdown Banned Organization operating from Punjab just like the way it happening in Karachi now a days?

Name the city which is comparable to Karachi in terms of Target Killings, Bhata and street crimes. Name one and then you will be justifying asking where else this operation has happens?

When you cry why is there operation against Karachi.. you must first ask why is Karachi the way it is.

When Karachiite ask for Administrative Unit separate from Sindh all of a sudden it becomes Racism, When we point out Existence of Taliban in Karachi City we become Racist, When we ask to abolish Qouta System we become Racist, When we ask for Local Law Enforcement Setup we become Racist. Is there anything in the World which we can ask for Karachi and Doesnt become Racist?These are not a demand of Certain Ethnicity but they are overall Citizens demand because Karachi is more precious here along with all the identities that live in this City. Karachi has been Ignored to the teeth in terms of Development since 40 years now we had KCR(Karachi Circular Railways) that was Mass Transit system but it all Stopped due to Corruption of new Administration Introduced after Quota System so things are only Taken Away from Citizens since last 40 years instead of providing the City which Actually Contributes to the economy.

Punjabi or not Punjabi doesn't even Matter here what actually Matters here is ATTITUDE and their Attitude towards Karachi is Quite Discriminatory and that is the bone of Contention that needs to Address.

So you are complaining why terrorists of Karachi are being captured? What discrimination have you seen in this recent operation? Speak openly speak of MQM and ask why are terrorists arrested from 90 when they were peacefully hiding? If this is your question - you deserve no answer for that.
 
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For the past expereinces: past dealign with Mutahida are equally bad. Whoever was involved in operation against MQM was killed and Altaf Hussian proudly called that incident when he threatened Rangers. If you were victim, you don't relieve yourself by victimizing others. Ataf Hussain's statements against Pakistan has been equally hurting but no one is looking at "past experiences" here... even a person like me who is against MQM wants to let them work and live under legal boundaries. Infect I am a fan of Mustafa Kamal who has uplifted Karachi several levels within a very short span of time. When you find people blaming MQM, they do not blame the political MQM but terrorist part who is found responsible for crimes, killings and terrorism times and again.
I have Lived that Past Experience and seen Shameful ways of operation Conducted during those days. Do you know Haqiqi, Punjabi Pakhtun Ittehad and Banned Sectarian Outfits had done against MQM Alleying themselves with Rangers?I have seen it and I am aware of all kinds of Discrimination an average Citizen been through as well just to prove that they doesnt Belong to MQM. If their is a Reaction of those things happened then it is REACTION which was Caused by ACTIONS of our LEA back then. Dont tell me about who was bad and who was good Back then because I have lived that period with Much Worse Media Trail that they are going through right now. Today at least they got very little Chance but back then Opinions were HAMMERED in people's mind against them and if I was speaking against MQM right now then their is a large Probability that I would be BRAINWASHED since 1990s.
When those terrorists and criminals are targeted, we all are happy and we want political MQM to join us in eliminating them. No one is denying MQM their right to lead or rule but no one must accept terrorism under any umbrella, let it be that of MQM, PPP or PTI - and that should all happen under legal course, with justice and without any bias.
That would only happened when our LEA would allow them to do that because last couple of Days since 9-0 Raid all we are observing is Campaign against Whole MQM rather then Criminals only by using Every method LEA got just to Create a Hype all over the Country. There is a difference between Taking out Criminals and Taking out a party itself and all I am seeing is they are trying to take out a Party itself that has Grass root Support Base and trying to impose Another Party that has given Pakistan nothing but DHarnas since last Two years. It was same thing with JI, Haqiqi, SSP and Punjabi Pakhtun Ittehad back in 1990s and is repeating today as well.

Name the city which is comparable to Karachi in terms of Target Killings, Bhata and street crimes. Name one and then you will be justifying asking where else this operation has happens?

When you cry why is there operation against Karachi.. you must first ask why is Karachi the way it is.
Hah when Punjab Govt. Make Deals like Please Spare Punjab while Attack the rest do you expect such thing would happened?They are OPERATING from Punjab to all over Pakistan not from Karachi here and if our LEA cant even Crackdown the epicenter of those Sectarian Terrorists how would they be able to make things Peaceful in Pakistan. The Charity Starts From home not from other Places because home is where a person feels Secure.

So you are complaining why terrorists of Karachi are being captured? What discrimination have you seen in this recent operation? Speak openly speak of MQM and ask why are terrorists arrested from 90 when they were peacefully hiding? If this is your question - you deserve no answer for that.
I was referring to Attitude towards Development of Karachi and demands of Karachiite not attitude towards Law Enforcement. Even I have Problem with that as well because I have seen Karachi Police from Interior Sindh and Punjab who are only Interested recovering their Bribed Amount which they paid for Karachi Transfer.
 
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That is a sick philosophy my friend. Where was your Punjabi Establishment when Zardari was eating entire country with both hands? Shame to see you are lost in these idiotic rhetoric when real problems are evident on the surface. What has Punjabi or Baluchi or Makrani Establishment got to do with crimes and terrorism in Karachi? Whoever is responsible for crimes should be nailed and fixed.

I am Punjabi and I stand for investigation and punishment for the Punjabis responsible for killings in Model Town. How would you describe my Punjabism with I demanding prosecution against Punjabis?

You have been fed with filty stories by people who have sqeezed blood and future out of you. Who has been ruling Sindh? Who has been ruling Baluchistan? Who has been ruling KPK? Who is responsible for slowest growth ever recorded in Sindh? Who is responsible for hundred of deaths of children in Thar and Makran? F* Punjabi Establishment? Now somebody stands and ask inquiry against the responsible ones.. your $hity stories come up bashing Punjabis and Establishment - so the real terrorists and criminals may stay free and you keep changing "Punjabi Establishment $hit".

I apologise for my stupid comment. I deleted it.
 
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I have Lived that Past Experience and seen Shameful ways of operation Conducted during those days. Do you know Haqiqi, Punjabi Pakhtun Ittehad and Banned Sectarian Outfits had done against MQM Alleying themselves with Rangers?I have seen it and I am aware of all kinds of Discrimination an average Citizen been through as well just to prove that they doesnt Belong to MQM. If their is a Reaction of those things happened then it is REACTION which was Caused by ACTIONS of our LEA back then. Dont tell me about who was bad and who was good Back then because I have lived that period with Much Worse Media Trail that they are going through right now. Today at least they got very little Chance but back then Opinions were HAMMERED in people's mind against them and if I was speaking against MQM right now then their is a large Probability that I would be BRAINWASHED since 1990s.
That would only happened when our LEA would allow them to do that because last couple of Days since 9-0 Raid all we are observing is Campaign against Whole MQM rather then Criminals only by using Every method LEA got just to Create a Hype all over the Country. There is a difference between Taking out Criminals and Taking out a party itself and all I am seeing is they are trying to take out a Party itself that has Grass root Support Base and trying to impose Another Party that has given Pakistan nothing but DHarnas since last Two years. It was same thing with JI, Haqiqi, SSP and Punjabi Pakhtun Ittehad back in 1990s and is repeating today as well.


Watch this from 9:00 onwards and see how many arrests have taken place on terrorists and criminals from other parties. You don't need to think MQM is victimized.

Kharra Sach (Pakistan Ki Siasat ka Afsosnak Din..!!) – 25th March 2015
 
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Watch this from 9:00 onwards and see how many arrests have taken place on terrorists and criminals from other parties. You don't need to think MQM is victimized.

Kharra Sach (Pakistan Ki Siasat ka Afsosnak Din..!!) – 25th March 2015
Dont quote me that Clown because I know what his deal actually is. He was trying his luck on another Media Group that is creating lot of Hypes these Days but they are not willing to pay him his Desired sum so he is Trying PR thing these days and nothing else just to make him worth.
 
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Dont quote me that Clown because I know what his deal actually is. He was trying his luck on another Media Group that is creating lot of Hypes these Days but they are not willing to pay him his Desired sum so he is Trying PR thing these days and nothing else just to make him worth.

Clown on ARY is not the point of discussion.. I don't have high degree of respect for Mubashir either so don't think its you vs me ---- but he is showing official figures of actions against entities in Karachi. MQM is only one of them as there are actions against ANP, JI, PPP and independent fractions of Karachi.

Now take these political labels out for a moment and demand action against criminals. Would you not want to see a karachi in which you would take your new iPhone out at 11pm and walk on the street with friends, doing fun and celebrating good things you have there? I am sure you would want that Karachi back and if you do, don't protect anybody's terrorists. PPP has a terrorist under prosecution and some of PPP's top leaders are under threat of action. Wait a see, action against criminals have just begin and if you have a feeling that only MQM terrorists are being targeted, just give your opinion another month if you could and then re-think if it is against MQM or anybody responsible.

By the way, targeted operations against terrorists in Punjab are also underway and I stand for leveling operation against all criminals - irrespective of who they belong to, what language they speak, what party flag they hold and what wine they drink.
 
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Clown on ARY is not the point of discussion.. I don't have high degree of respect for Mubashir either so don't think its you vs me ---- but he is showing official figures of actions against entities in Karachi. MQM is only one of them as there are actions against ANP, JI, PPP and independent fractions of Karachi.
Facts and Figures which has potential of being Fabricated doesnt work on me because I am here in Karachi avoiding all those areas which Previously were No Go Areas for an average citizen due to those Mentioned Mafias. Its like someone here Claimed 700 Raids on Terrorists and Result was Twin Blast in Last Friday. So spare me with Figures that has resulted in Nothing as it maybe Good enough for you but for me its nothing till I can walk in those areas without any troubles.
Now take these political labels out for a moment and demand action against criminals. Would you not want to see a karachi in which you would take your new iPhone out at 11pm and walk on the street with friends, doing fun and celebrating good things you have there? I am sure you would want that Karachi back and if you do, don't protect anybody's terrorists. PPP has a terrorist under prosecution and some of PPP's top leaders are under threat of action. Wait a see, action against criminals have just begin and if you have a feeling that only MQM terrorists are being targeted, just give your opinion another month if you could and then re-think if it is against MQM or anybody responsible.
I want to take all those Political Labels out but when I see Confession Videos and Execution Delay Drama it brought me back to same case that what are they exactly up to here. LEA can take People into Custody and then Convict them from court what is the whole point of Releasing Confession Videos and doing all kind of Dramas in everything. At one point citizen Avoid those areas which they were avoiding since Early 2000s while on the other point These kind of Drama propping up every day against a Particular Group. Do you think I would feel Satisfied with scenarios like that?Well I am not Satisfied here and this whole Drama is just being played for Promoting how much they are doing to Protect Karachiite but even they have got Busted by Twin Blast last Friday.

By the way, targeted operations against terrorists in Punjab are also underway and I stand for leveling operation against all criminals - irrespective of who they belong to, what language they speak, what party flag they hold and what wine they drink.
Lahore Church Blast is the biggest Proof of that Targeted Operation in Punjab. I have not came across any such thing from Punjab these days and the terrorist Attack on Church is also Mocking the whole Credibility of so called Targeted Operation if that is underway.
 
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MQM has Claimed that everyone of them were Licensed and they would show it to Court so till the Court Doesnt Ask them to show I would give them Benefit of Doubt for that here. Saulat Mirza is convicted Criminal who was used to read a Scripted Statement just for some Relief on his execution that is the thing here and he was most Shamelessly used against MQM in this regards as I have yet to see any example of Video of Convicted Criminals facing Execution like that except for Fictions maybe.

There were Thousands of them in 1990s but what happened in the end was Lack of Evidence and got released. In Pakistan our Law enforcement Agencies are famous for making Convictions of something people doesnt even Liable for and same is happening right now in all this Drama that is kind of Repetition of 1990s. People of Karachi has EXPERIENCED such things before and that Experience Talks here no matter how much things are pulled out of no where its quite obvious that MQM is being SINGLED OUT and TARGETED here.

I think you should stay out of this because I have already showed you face of your Beloved Leader Imran Khan many times in the past and how low he can get for point scoring so better stay out of it.

Its funny how you give everything benefit of doubts, except what goes against MQM, that is pure conspiracy
 
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KARACHI: Attempts made by the beleaguered Muttahida Qaumi Movement to seek an audience with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif remained unsuccessful as he flew back to the capital following a couple of high-profile engagements at an airbase on Wednesday.

The PM spent a busy day in Karachi. He was the chief guest at a Karachi Stock Exchange award function and chaired a meeting of the Sindh apex committee held at an untraditional venue of the PAF Base Faisal instead of Sindh Governor House before returning to Islamabad in the evening.

Know more: Sharif approves expansion of operation in Sindh

Under a cloud following startling disclosures by death row prisoner Saulat Mirza, Sindh Governor Dr Ishratul Ibad was conspicuous by his absence from the meeting at the airbase.

Just a day before the PM’s visit, MQM leader Dr Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui told the media that his party had requested the prime minister to give them time to listen to their grievances about the Karachi operation. “We have a lot to tell,” he said.

Besides raising other issues, said MQM sources, the party wanted to present documentary evidence to the PM with regard to the Rangers allegations about the seizure of unlicensed weapons in their March 11 raid on Nine Zero, the MQM headquarters.

However, the party faced disappointment when no one from the federal government informed them about the fate of their request.

“The Rabita [coordination] committee did not get a positive response [from the PM] when it sought time for a meeting with the prime minister,” MQM leader Syed Faisal Subzwari told reporters outside the Sindh Assembly building on Wednesday.

The sources said the MQM believed that they were not given time because of the fact that the PM did not want to meet an MQM delegation.

“This is not because of his [the PM’s] busy schedule ... we think he [the PM] avoided us because he did not want to displease the powers that be,” said an MQM source.

Protest against ‘media trial’

Members of the Sindh Assembly belonging to the MQM staged a protest demonstration outside the assembly building against “the media trial” of the MQM.

Carrying placards inscribed with slogans such as “We reject biased journalism” and “We want justice”, the lawmakers protested against private news channel ARY News.

Speaking on the occasion, Mr Subzwari said his party would not sit idle over what he described as the media trial of MQM chief Altaf Hussain and party workers. He demanded that the media trial of the MQM be stopped forthwith.

He said the pro-Taliban parties and some leaders were plotting to crush the MQM.

The MQM’s parliamentary party leader in the Sindh Assembly, Syed Sardar Ahmed, said that criminals should be brought before courts and not before the media for the purpose of character assassination.

Rangers patrol Nine Zero

A contingent of the Rangers and police patrolled the Nine Zero area on Wednesday to see whether the MQM had removed barriers from various roads and streets.

Initially, the arrival of masked soldiers in a convoy fuelled speculation that the paramilitary troops were about to carry out another raid on the MQM headquarters.

However, some MQM leaders met them and showed them the “barrier-free” areas.

An MQM leader later told Dawn that the party headquarters had become vulnerable to an attack after the removal of barricades and the patrol by the law enforcement agencies was part of security arrangements for the Nine Zero.

Muttahida attempts to meet PM fail - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Parties won't get any problem connecting each other. Only problem at this time is bad choices MQM has made in past couple of months. when army has asked them to surrender some of gangster from their ranks they over turned the request. They under estimate the whole situation. Now things are slipping out of their hands.
 
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Same Happened in 1990s but MQM but MQM survived in the end of that period and now things are way more in MQM's favor right now.
Wrong, the operations were left in the middle as a result MQM was able to not only flourish but murder all those involved in the operations against them.

There Track Record is Laud and Clear and last few days Saulat Mirza Drama along with so Called Confession Dramas has been Exposing them Badly that this is all against MQM. Those areas which were Considered No Go Areas for an average Citizens are still No Go Area and Twin Blast has Totally exposed Truth out of Across the Board Action.

Of Course if MQM has bad Apples MQM can also have Moles or those who would try to save themselves from Danger of Taken by Rangers and then made Confessions out of nothing by Tortures. Like I said Rangers role in 1990s are already Attached to their Track Record and Those Saulat Mirza Drama is exposing them much Further about their Actual Intention right here is.

MQM itself is bad from top to bottom and if it had any "good people", they only exist in your mind. Stop being a mouth piece for terrorists of Karachi. Every citizen of Karachi & whole of Pakistan knows the reality of MQM, its the brain dead racist supporters who makes excuses for this group of thugs. You choose to make excuses for MQMs behaviour and politics of violence, all of you know that Saulat Mirza and countless like him were part of MQM's machinery of violence yet you choose to make lies. No body is buying your chooran, so zip it.
 
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I think you should stay out of this because I have already showed you face of your Beloved Leader Imran Khan many times in the past and how low he can get for point scoring so better stay out of it.
no matter how much of a political baby he might be, Imran Khan does not order killing of people, neither does he divide Pakistanis on ethnic lines, and also does not ask his workers to chant "Torr Do Torr Do Pakistan Torr Do" or "Jo Quaid ka Ghaddar hai woh maut ka Haqdar hai". just another thing but he also does not have elaborate extortion mafia system in any city of Pakistan.
But you know which "Quaid" does?
Altaf Hussain.
 
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no matter how much of a political baby he might be, Imran Khan does not order killing of people, neither does he divide Pakistanis on ethnic lines, and also does not ask his workers to chant "Torr Do Torr Do Pakistan Torr Do" or "Jo Quaid ka Ghaddar hai woh maut ka Haqdar hai". just another thing but he also does not have elaborate extortion mafia system in any city of Pakistan.
But you know which "Quaid" does?
Altaf Hussain.
Yah right refuging a known Criminal, Supporting Taliban throughout last 8 years and then Claim clean and clear. Presenting Fake allegations against others and bad mouthing about others while dont even spit a single word against Taliban which are evil of worse kind and calling people Living dead Bodies and you think he is serving Pakistan. Do you know how much our economy has suffer due to his mindless Dharnas and Jalsas for Electoral Commission even his Jalsas cost people their lives in one occasion while those Taliban Supporting damages are another thing. A senseless Person like him can only create Mess and more mess then we already have and their Supporters are helping him doing so.

Those all your crap are nothing but unproven Allegations which Imran Khan himself doesnt able to prove by using all his links in UK so better come up with something that is substantial as your Imran Khan is a failure so far and has only present Political Point Scoring to the Table rather then any thing called Good Governance.

Its funny how you give everything benefit of doubts, except what goes against MQM, that is pure conspiracy
OK so I should join the senseless club of giving verdicts on the basis of Allegations and Accusations that has never been proven till yet.

Wrong, the operations were left in the middle as a result MQM was able to not only flourish but murder all those involved in the operations against them.
They were dying their own death as they were facing worse Internal Crisis like Haqiqi, Altaf Leaving a country and people were fed up before 1992 operation just like these days but this whole Operation had brought them back alive once again and they won all the seats they contested from Karachi and Hyderabad in 1993 Elections while Their Opponents lost with huge Margins. Go read some history before making Comments.
 
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Another round of action is upon them and this would probably grab parliamentarians and elected members. If a criminal is elected by people, his crime is not waived-off. Good to see justice prevailing - finally!

You seem to love Narnian Justice just like me :D
 
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