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Muslims of india and their hate for Pakistan

I see this line used a lot, but frankly it isn't true in my opinion. I know many Indian Muslims in the U.K, there is no fear on them to prove their loyalty to anyone, yet here as well, they have nothing good to say about Pakistan and love India, (rightly so since it's their country).

It's only us Pakistanis who are deluded, partly a fault of the narrative imposed on us by our establishment, that the world's muslims look to us for guidance etc. This is such BS, the fact of the matter is, no one cares about Pakistan. But we stupid people of this country, feel the need to take the mantle of everyone else, apart from ourselves.

A prime example, even other Muslims of India look down on Kashmiris and support the Indian army in its occupation and some even serve as part of that occupying force. No other country in the world do I see protests or strong diplomatic efforts for Kashmir, no other Muslim country sacrifices ties with India over us or on the issue of Kashmir, yet we still cut ties with other nations on the behalf of others.

Yet here we are, worrying about others. I have to this day, never ever seen a single protest, rally etc protesting the atrocities against Kashmiris in another Muslim state apart from Pakistan. Yet we have protests every other day for Palestine, Jamatis in Bangladesh etc etc. Pakistanis should care about Pakistanis first.

We do care about ourselves first

For the first time we have a selfish policy (the way it should be)
We have one enemy we hate above all others India/Hindus anything that makes us stronger to hurt that enemy we should grasp

India pissing off China is a opportunity for us
GCC desperate in Yemen is a opportunity for (who cares if a few Yemenis have to die) we should be concerned about ourselves
Islamic alliance currently under construction with Pakistani generals in major roles is a opportunity for us

The Indian Muslims mean nothing for us, but the rise of hindutva is a opportunity for Pakistan to damage India till the point if no return indias 200 million Muslims and other minorities are central to this. If we could only boost the hindutva right even more:D
 
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Nobody cares for them nor asked their opinion.

My question is

Why does Pakistanis have a fetish for them?

They are Indian.
Because its about our attitude not about them ... we should sow bigger heart then them no matter what they do
 
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We do care about ourselves first

For the first time we have a selfish policy (the way it should be)
We have one enemy we hate above all others India/Hindus anything that makes us stronger to hurt that enemy we should grasp

India pissing off China is a opportunity for us
GCC desperate in Yemen is a opportunity for (who cares if a few Yemenis have to die) we should be concerned about ourselves
Islamic alliance currently under construction with Pakistani generals in major roles is a opportunity for us

The Indian Muslims mean nothing for us, but the rise of hindutva is a opportunity for Pakistan to damage India till the point if no return indias 200 million Muslims and other minorities are central to this. If we could only boost the hindutva right even more:D

I agree that the rise of the Hindu right has done more to divide the different religious communities of India than Pakistan could ever do in 60 years. Modi sarkar is definitely a blessing in disguise, if I was a moderate Indian, I would be seriously worried about the long term effects that a religious-nationalist government would have on a diverse society such as India.

We should concentrate on building up our own political, economical and military clout, and let the Indians, whatever their religion, divide themselves further. I suggest setting up a propaganda radio station that should be used to spread propaganda on behalf of the Hindu right wing so that their rule continues for another 20 years.
 
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I see this line used a lot, but frankly it isn't true in my opinion. I know many Indian Muslims in the U.K, there is no fear on them to prove their loyalty to anyone, yet here as well, they have nothing good to say about Pakistan and love India, (rightly so since it's their country).

It's only us Pakistanis who are deluded, partly a fault of the narrative imposed on us by our establishment, that the world's muslims look to us for guidance etc. This is such BS, the fact of the matter is, no one cares about Pakistan. But we stupid people of this country, feel the need to take the mantle of everyone else, apart from ourselves.

A prime example, even other Muslims of India look down on Kashmiris and support the Indian army in its occupation and some even serve as part of that occupying force. No other country in the world do I see protests or strong diplomatic efforts for Kashmir, no other Muslim country sacrifices ties with India over us or on the issue of Kashmir, yet we still cut ties with other nations on the behalf of others.


Yet here we are, worrying about others. I have to this day, never ever seen a single protest, rally etc protesting the atrocities against Kashmiris in another Muslim state apart from Pakistan. Yet we have protests every other day for Palestine, Jamatis in Bangladesh etc etc. Pakistanis should care about Pakistanis first.
Agree with what you stated in Bold..I am saying the majority look them like this..Not to imply that they look to Pakistan or any other part of the world look to Pakistan ..Majority of Indian Muslim does not view Kashmir struggle positive including there Ulemaaas as i had stated...This Madani guy father has a heated debated with Iqbal too in pre-partition time .."The cleric sided with the Indian Nationalist Congress; the Cambridge- and Munich-educated lawyer Iqbal insisted on a religiously defined, homogeneous Muslim society".
 
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It is simple...Pakistan has made their life harder. For no fault of theirs, they are called traitors and looked down upon. They are at the lowest strata of the Indian soceity lower than dalits...all because of Pakistan.

No wonder Indian Muslims hate Pakistan...
How has pakistan contributed in there lack of education or better representation in jobs or military ?All these are the responsibility of Indian government not Pakistan.There ancestors(right or wrong is another debate) choose to stay in India and they prefer India but India didn't accept them until now as equal to other i beleive..This is a tragedy
 
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I agree that the rise of the Hindu right has done more to divide the different religious communities of India than Pakistan could ever do in 60 years. Modi sarkar is definitely a blessing in disguise, if I was a moderate Indian, I would be seriously worried about the long term effects that a religious-nationalist government would have on a diverse society such as India.

We should concentrate on building up our own political, economical and military clout, and let the Indians, whatever their religion, divide themselves further. I suggest setting up a propaganda radio station that should be used to spread propaganda on behalf of the Hindu right wing so that their rule continues for another 20 years.

I hate Hindus anyway but Indian secularism is dying, the more it erodes the more India burns away

Taking on the bakht Hindu fundoos is worthless, but targeting the Indians liberals and secularists in a weird tag team with the hindutva crowd will help us hurt India more then any nuclear bomb

The Indian Muslims are beginning to feel the pain and mistake of India as they are abused and attacked, its a tinder box waiting to go off
 
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Indian muslim care for Islam , they don't care for pakistan or kashmir as it's merely geo politics ,very similar to the attitude of Pakistanis when comes to Chinese muslims.
 
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Worried insecure sentimental neighbor.:rofl:
We all know how you treat your minority..
Be worried..We have more Muslims than Pakistan..
 
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I hate Hindus anyway but Indian secularism is dying, the more it erodes the more India burns away

Taking on the bakht Hindu fundoos is worthless, but targeting the Indians liberals and secularists in a weird tag team with the hindutva crowd will help us hurt India more then any nuclear bomb

The Indian Muslims are beginning to feel the pain and mistake of India as they are abused and attacked, its a tinder box waiting to go off


Why do you hate all Hindus? There are millions of Pakistani Hindus. Some have given their lives fighting for Pakistan. Don't let the actions of some blind you with prejudice for all. You can hate what the Indians have done to Pakistan. And you would be blameless since the Indians do have blood on their hands. You should not become like the Hindutvas who hate all Muslims because of their suppressed inferiority complex of being ruled for centuries by Muslim dynasties and take it out on normal Muslims. You are better than that.

Apart from that, if I could influence any Pakistani policy makers and was thinking from a purely Pakistani nationalist point of view, I would also look to divide the Indian communities and sow discord amongst them by emboldening the Hindutvas in India. They are our closet allies no doubt in that regards.
 
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Because its about our attitude not about them ... we should sow bigger heart then them no matter what they do

They are Indians.
Their problems are their own making for large parts and India is a secular country.
 
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They are Indians.
Their problems are their own making for large parts and India is a secular country.
Yes but we need not to hate them just because they are indians ... we have to beter than them ...
 
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It is simple...Pakistan has made their life harder. For no fault of theirs, they are called traitors and looked down upon. They are at the lowest strata of the Indian soceity lower than dalits...all because of Pakistan.

No wonder Indian Muslims hate Pakistan...
will you please elaborate how we make their lives hell?

Worried insecure sentimental neighbor.:rofl:
We all know how you treat your minority..
Be worried..We have more Muslims than Pakistan..
We dont have any ghar wapsi campaign neither do we have plans to make our country minority free in 2021 nor we elected those our PM/Cm who spew more venom against minority citizens
 
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