Muslims need truth and love

[Solomon2]

What? I wasnt even talking about Pakistani law enforcement's extra judicial killings. I'm talking about the extra judicial killings committed by 'drones'.

It seems nobody likes to quote openly from UNSCR 1373, which essentially makes member-states' attacks against terrorists operating in uncontrolled areas legal acts of warfare. Since killing such terrorists is legal it's hard to argue the deaths are "extra-judicial".

Millions of americans are active supporters of wars in Muslim nations, I have never seen a million anti war demonstration in America. Are you sure your not getting confused with the British protests?

Organizers of the "Million Man March" in 2003 claimed a million protesters attended (though the Park Police says it was far less). Most demonstrations in the U.S. against the post-9/11 wars have been smaller: link. I note there have been very few protests about U.S. operations in ex-Yugoslavia (where the U.S. intervened and remains, mostly to protect Muslims.)

As for being in Britain and freedoms here, then you obviously don't know anything about what the Ahmadiyya Youth Association, of which I am a member does. So let me give you a few things to think about before you go on about accusing me of doing nothing against extremists.

Oh, I didn't know you were an Ahmadi Muslim. ISIS would slit your throat ASAP, right? Please accept my humble apology. The demos sound good.

 

[Pakistani E]

It seems nobody likes to quote openly from UNSCR 1373, which essentially makes member-states' attacks against terrorists operating in uncontrolled areas legal acts of warfare. Since killing such terrorists is legal it's hard to argue the deaths are "extra-judicial".

Organizers of the "Million Man March" in 2003 claimed a million protesters attended (though the Park Police says it was far less). Most demonstrations in the U.S. against the post-9/11 wars have been smaller: link

Oh, I didn't know you were an Ahmadi Muslim. ISIS would slit your throat ASAP, right? Please accept my humble apology. The demos sound good.

I understand the article 1373, I am just saying that the proper course of action is to bring a person in the court of law and prove he has committed a crime, you can't be the judge, jury and executioner without first proving that someone has committed a crime. If we accept that someone has the right to do that then no one really knows where it will stop.

Congratulations on the million man march, that bit of my comment about 5 million Americans was sarcasm, and seems to be a bad one at that. I do not hold any individual American responsible for any action committed by any other american.

ISIS would slit my throat if they could get their hands on me, yes. But I would always hope to take a few down with me. No apologies needed, thanks for the decent discussion. Enjoy your evening.

 

[Solomon2]

I understand the article 1373, I am just saying that the proper course of action is to bring a person in the court of law and prove he has committed a crime, you can't be the judge, jury and executioner without first proving that someone has committed a crime. If we accept that someone has the right to do that then no one really knows where it will stop.

Yes, that's part of the debate about drone warfare and air strikes in general.

I do not hold any individual American responsible for any action committed by any other american.

A Jew like me expects a certain minimum level of conduct from the society he exists in. Jews have to obey hundreds of commands in the Torah but we hold that goyim are only obliged to follow the seven Noahide laws. The most important of these being the prohibition against murder and the establishment of courts and police to execute laws. That's where community responsibility comes in. The moment a society won't seek to enforce laws against attacking and killing Jews is the point where Jews start to depart - and often coincides with the point where law and order start to break down in general. (While in Pakistan Hindus may have been the first victims of communal violence I date the change in thinking to Indian Muslims' rejection of Jews' civil rights regarding resettlement in Palestine, as that pre-dates the Khalifat movement by about a decade.)

 

[ito]

the article so patronizing towards muslims.

muslims themselves are to be blamed for this world view.

the article so patronizing towards muslims.

muslims themselves are to be blamed for this world view.