Muslims in India fear for their future under Narendra Modi

[Microsoft]

Irrespective of the number a wrong is always a wrong. And I guess you will then agree with the 3 Million people butchered by Pakistan army in East Pakistan during 1971 was also very wrong, right my friend ??

Are you sure you believe what you say? First you say:

Irrespective of the number a wrong is always a wrong.

Then you try to play this whataboutism game?

And I guess you will then agree with the 3 Million people butchered by Pakistan army in East Pakistan during 1971 was also very wrong, right my friend ??

Which is it?

 

[Tom M]

One new Muslim country in Making from india. Suggest name

Al-Bakistan, how's it ???

Are you sure you believe what you say? First you say

Firmly.

Then you try to play this whataboutism game?


Which is it?

You have selective amnesia I guess ??? Hope you get well soon.

 

[IceCold]

Sorry, Partition the reason for all evil was never India's brainchild. We just took a page out of your workbook while setting the so called precedent that just mentioned. Never forget the "Kabili Lashkar" of 1947 and their interference in a sovereign independent country.

Rest of the world does not agree with your so called sovereign independent country when you are the occupier of a sovereign territory.

 

[namefield_empty]

We have quota of Seats for Women and minorities which is awarded according to seat share of parties,

And why do you think such seats are awarded instead of being elected through representation?? It is because the minority candidates in Pakistan have no chance in a free and fair electoral process. Look first at what's ailing your country instead of pointing fingers at India. Religious minorities in Pakistan need their own representatives not the lackeys that your political parties select to kowtow their line.

No one is asking for separate electorate, neither we have separate elections or election rolls for minorities in Pakistan.

Lol, your country had seperate electoral rolls culminating in sham elections for the better part of four decades. You can thank late Gen Ziaul Haq for that..

 

[Tom M]

Rest of the world does not agree with your so called sovereign independent country when you are the occupier of a sovereign territory.

Sure Pakistan never considered The Kingdom of Kashmir was never a Sovereign independent state. The reason why the your leaders sign a standstill agreement with the King back then only to be broken unilaterally later.

But ironically your rest of the world seem to be between Torkham and Wagah, since the world had clearly identified who the aggressor was way back in 1947 itself and therefore purposed steps for an amicable settlement just for peace. FYI, do care to read the subsequent U.N resolutions on this matter before wasting my time.

 

[50cent]

If hardcore Hindus try Burger King beef.whopper Burger Ibet they will stop treating cow as sacred animal just try it

 

[IceCold]

Sure Pakistan never considered The Kingdom of Kashmir was never a Sovereign independent state. The reason why the your leaders sign a standstill agreement with the King back then only to be broken unilaterally later.

But ironically your rest of the world seem to be between Torkham and Wagah, since the world had clearly identified who the aggressor was way back in 1947 itself and therefore purposed steps for an amicable settlement just for peace. FYI, do care to read the subsequent U.N resolutions on this matter before wasting my time.

You are the one who is wasting forum bandwidth with your gibberish. I have read the UN resolutions, when is India going for plebiscite? Oh wait its not, because it does not refer to Kashmir as disputed territory. Quite convenient for you to mention UN resolutions when India does not even accept any UN resolution and calls Kashmir its internal matter.

 

[Max]

And why do you think such seats are awarded instead of being elected through representation?? It is because the minority candidates in Pakistan have no chance in a free and fair electoral process. Look first at what's ailing your country instead of pointing fingers at India. Religious minorities in Pakistan need their own representatives not the lackeys that your political parties select to kowtow their line.

at least they are awarded unlike your country where Muslims are treated worst then subhumans and have no representation at all, They can also contest elections on General seats and can win if they have ticket of popular party. I wouldn't bet any seat for scattered population of 2.5% to win any seat, no sane person will. so its better to have proportional representation then direct contest in which they are treated like worthless subhumans..

Lol, your country had seperate electoral rolls culminating in sham elections for the better part of four decades. You can thank late Gen Ziaul Haq for that..

Now you come to had. Zia was a dictator with malnutrition brain. talk about present. talk about your under represented bharati Muslims. talk about their Job representation, their role in military and bureaucracy.

 

[namefield_empty]

If hardcore Hindus try Burger King beef.whopper Burger Ibet they will stop treating cow as sacred animal just try it

Nah, PORK is the staple meat in my corner of the country.

 

[Pubg1]

No point in living in fear. Time for a population exchange.
India will take all the Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan, and Pakistan should take all these fearful Muslims. Only fair since Pakistan was made for the Muslims of South asia.

Hindus need to modernize and understand that a cow is an animal and not GOD. how about that for a start?

Give proof of God.
A cow I can see.

 

[namefield_empty]

at least they are awarded unlike your country where Muslims are treated worst then subhumans and have no representation

Like i have already let you know, there is no scope for it in our polity. India doesn't categorise her citizens based on their religious profile, any Indian citizen subject to eligibility is empowered to be elected and selected for government offices, be it Presidency/Vice Presidency or in the Judiciary and Legislature.

There is no bar for any of those belonging to the religious minorities to get selected in the armed forces and bureaucracy. In fact, there has been a resurgence in the muslims cracking top competitive exams both in the public and private sector.

Zia was a dictator with malnutrition brain. talk about present.

Yet you are still to remove many of the regressive provisions introduced by him into your constitution and statutes, Representation of People's Act as an example.

 

[Max]

Like i have already let you know, there is no scope for it in our polity. India doesn't categories her citizens based on their religious profile, any Indian citizen subject to eligibility is empowered to be elected and selected for government offices, be it Presidency/Vice Presidency or in the Judiciary and Legislature.

There is no bar for any of those belonging to the religious minorities to get selected in the armed forces and bureaucracy. In fact, there has been a resurgence in the muslims cracking top competitive exams both in the public and private sector.

i understand, there is no chance Hindutva will ever give scattered Muslim population their share. they will always be massacred, treated worst then subhumans and under represented on every forum. Hence they should try to deal it with systematic manner, migrate to west bengal and Kerala and turn them into Muslim majority states.

Nor i claimed their is constitutional bar. their is systematic discrimination and oppression by Hindu PMs, MPs, Cheif Ministers, they reward their major communities and voters and dont give two hoots about minority and its backed by stats.

 

[namefield_empty]

i understand, there is no chance Hindutva will ever give scattered Muslim population their share. they will always be massacred, treated worst then subhumans and under represented on every forum.

What do you suggest we do? Replicate the great Pakistani model of treatment of her minorities; religious, ethnic and linguistic??

Nah, we are happy with the way things are at present. We can not prop up muslim candidates just for the sake it. Our Constitution allows every Indian citizen to run for election, and if there are suitable muslim candidates, i see no reasons why people won't vote for them.

systematic discrimination and oppression

they reward their major communities and voters and dont give two hoots about minority and its backed by stats.

This is nonsensical, lots of social sector initiatives and government schemes are made available exclusively for the minorities. Have a look:
http://www.minorityaffairs.gov.in/schemesperformance

It is upto them to make full use of them and adopt modern means of education and skills. Traditional methods of religious learning doesn't help them to get gainfully employed in this era of cutthroat competition, all that's left for them is the option to join your seminaries.

Those muslims that have adapted to the changing times are looked at derisively by their orthodox counterparts. 'Sarkari Muslims' as my good friend @AfrazulMandal likes to call them.

 

[Clutch]

In both cases, they should leave India at earliest.

They should fight for an independent state.

Sorry, Pakistan is full and considering the population of the current indian Muslims... Another division of India is needed.

 

[Max]

What do you suggest we do? Replicate the great Pakistani model of treatment of her minorities; religious, ethnic and linguistic??

No, continue to treat Muslims like third grade subhumans. I dont expect any good from you nor i think bharati Muslims.

Nah, we are happy with the way things are at present. We can not prop up muslim candidates just for the sake it. Our Constitution allows every Indian citizen to run for election, and if there are suitable muslim candidates, i see no reasons why people won't vote for them.

Thanks for confirming that you are happy with oppressive discrimination, Thats why i said if Muslims wants to be treated as human and equal they have to migrate, there is no point being 10% population of Maharshtra or Dehli, leave them and migrate to Assam Turn Assam's 35% Muslim population to 65% in decade and take over state. i am sure Mahrashtra and Delhi properties can buy much more land in assam then in Marshtra or Delhi.

This is nonsensical, lots of social sector initiatives and government schemes are made available exclusively for the minorities. Have a look:
http://www.minorityaffairs.gov.in/schemesperformance

It is upto them to make full use of them and adopt modern means of education and skills. Traditional methods of religious learning doesn't help them to get gainfully employed in this era of cutthroat competition, all that's left for them is the option to join your seminaries.

Those muslims that have adapted to the changing times are looked at derisively by their orthodox counterparts. 'Sarkari Muslims' as my good friend @AfrazulMandal likes to call them.

seems these schemes are as shitty as numbers of bharati Muslims in parliament.