Muslims are strangely obsessed with cartoons, all while there are very real crimes over which they should be angry at France

[nahtanbob]

Lolx he gave free electricity... home to everyone.. basic income... marriage allowance to young ones... and much more but his only fault was that he was a dictator who didnt obey US and wanted to being gold backed currency to Africa

saudis and GCC states provide the same. are they progressive ? distributing free stuff does not make one "progressive"

 

[hussain0216]

USA and NATO did nothing wrong. They had the power so they invaded Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan etc. You guys are weaklings and so got humiliated badly.

If Muslims were superpower today, then they wouldve done the same thing with non muslim countries.

Aamir Taimur (Tamer lane), Alauddin Khilji and many islamic rulers did the same thing with non muslims.

French people were rulers of Africa so they did what was necessary to protect their territories.

Yeah but that has consequences

They created a migrant crises that added millions of people into Europe

Muslim population is now almost 2 BILLION in the last 20 years it has increased by Hundreds of millions

Libya and Syria especially were right on the edge of Europe and the people from countries streamed into Europe

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

saudis and GCC states provide the same. are they progressive ? distributing free stuff does not make one "progressive"

Well they are progressive... and free stuff ? Providing your nation with basic facilities us progressiveness

 

[raptor22]

Since when is a dictator that murders his own people progressive?
Gadaffi, the al-Assad family and Saddam Hussein all came to power through coups.
Not progressive in my book.

at least to my knowledge 2 of them Ghadafi and Saddam were supported by western countries .. France former president Sarkozy is being questioned about money he got from Gadafi in 2007 to win the election which was toppled by the same government in 2011 ..
Ghadfi 2007 good but in 2011 bad?
Saddam attacking Iran good but Sadam attacking Kuwait bad?

 

[dbc]

I also heard that Charlie Habdo also fired one of their cartoonist for anti-semitism , can't confirm or deny it for now will look more into it, Violence is no use in this situation because western people are stubborn when it comes to giving up their freedom of speech rights , or even if someone told them specifically not to do something they do it even much more intensity , only way is through a Powerful protest with help of Orgs like UN and OIC to create a law which should prohibit any insulting cartoons or movies against God and Prophets , of course we can not apply this law to every individual but we can of course make a law where Govt's will not endorse it like France did it with it when they display those cartoon on their Govt's Buildings .


Your Book means nothing to people in ME , they have their own way of living and governing .. who give West right to bomb a country who refused to adopt western way of democracy ? there are millions of Americans who are not happy with current US govt's , that does not means that anyone has right to bomb them .

Yes the French are quite selective about their freedom of speech. If Islam was so contravenes to French values they should have left the Harki in Algeria.
As opposed to creating a forgotten generation of French citizens to be discriminated based on their last name in perpetuity.

..but of course non of this was a problem when men were needed to fight the Germans or tirailleurs to spear head the charge in Indo-China.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Yeah but that has consequences

They created a migrant crises that added millions of people into Europe

Muslim population is now almost 2 BILLION in the last 20 years it has increased by Hundreds of millions

Libya and Syria especially were right on the edge of Europe and the people from countries streamed into Europe

Europeans are not fools unlike South Asians and Africans.

 

[nahtanbob]

at least to my knowledge 2 of them Ghadafi and Saddam were supported by western countries .. France former president Sarkozy is being questioned about money he got from Gadafi in 2007 to win the election which was toppled by the same government in 2011 ..
Ghadfi 2007 good but in 2011 bad?
Saddam attacking Iran good but Sadam attacking Kuwait bad?

Saddam and Qadaffi army had T-72 tanks, MiG fighters

 

[hussain0216]

Europeans are not fools unlike South Asians and Africans.

Those crises and I'll thought out wars made migrant crisis where millions of migrants went into Europe

It's history, look it up

 

[BATMAN]

Makes sense that Muslims are angry over those cartoons. They consider it a direct attack on Islam and all the 2 billion muslims world over

It makes no sense... but than we are living in times of ignorance.... everyone is liable to his acts, while i reject such reaction strongly, i consider it conspiracy against Islam.

However... i like to add to the OP.
As a follower of Islam, all prophets are equally revered and respectable to me..... technically speaking, i should find it more offensive to see naked Isa (may God be pleased with him) all around the world. Now, If that doesn't offend me but a cartoon does, it reflect either i'm ignorant to Islam or hypocrite, who has no business with Islam.

And again, as per the message of Allah, which we received through men, whom we call messengers..... The purpose of mankind is to be human kind. Not in-human kind.

Advise for the young.. stay away from those who stoke fire. Specially those ones, who does that sitting at the position of authority and are 60+. They are guaranteed agents of evil. They know that they are close to hell fire, now they wish all humanity should join them in forever misery.

Yes, France is right, please return 30,000 scalps which they took it as war thropy

https://twitter.com/x/status/1116839285272002560

They are teaching us what is right and what is wrong

And yet this does not offended any one?

Tell us, do you believe in punishing someone for the crimes committed before their birth?

 

[Buddhistforlife]

It makes no sense... but than we are living in times of ignorance.... everyone is liable to his acts, while i reject such reaction strongly, i consider it conspiracy against Islam.

However... i like to add to the OP.
As a follower of Islam, all prophets are equally revered and respectable to me..... technically speaking, i should find it more offensive to see naked Isa (may God be pleased with him) all around the world. Now, If that doesn't offend me but a cartoon does, it reflect either i'm ignorant to Islam or hypocrite, who has no business with Islam.

And again, as per the message of Allah, which we received through men, whom we call messengers..... The purpose of mankind is to be human kind. Not in-human kind.

Advise for the young.. stay away from those who stoke fire. Specially those ones, who does that sitting at the position of authority and are 60+. They are guaranteed agents of evil. They know that they are close to hell fire, now they wish all humanity should join them in forever misery.


And yet this does not offended any one?

Tell us, do you believe in punishing someone for the crimes committed before their birth?

Listen cartoons of Hindu, Buddhist, Christian personalities are also made and displayed but Hindus, Buddhists and Christians don't go around killing anyone. What we do is we protest against them.

Moreover killing a person for blasphemy in Europe makes no sense. Basically you are asking for trouble when you're doing that.

If Muslims would've protested against the cartoons instead of killing the teacher than muslims would have gained huge support and eventually the cartoons including Charlie hebdo would have been closed down. By killing the teacher you gave the Christian and white extremists further opportunities to demonize muslims.

 

[BATMAN]

Listen cartoons of Hindu, Buddhist, Christian personalities are also made and displayed but Hindus, Buddhists and Christians don't go around killing anyone. What we do is we protest against them.

Moreover killing a person for blasphemy in Europe makes no sense. Basically you are asking for trouble when you're doing that.

If Muslims would've protested against the cartoons instead of killing the teacher than muslims would have gained huge support and eventually the cartoons including Charlie hebdo would have been closed down. By killing the teacher you gave the Christian and white extremists further opportunities to demonize muslims.

You right, but I do not need to listen to you or any one to understand which behavior is wild and which is civilized.

Unfortunately... Islam is infiltrated with evil, who's purpose is to malign Islam and divide Muslims.
Cartoon is one given opportunity to exploit....

un-Islamic behavior of so called Muslims is not limited to the inappropriate and idiotic reaction to ''cartoons'' but most of what we do in the name of Islam, is exactly what is against the message of our creator and practice of message bearers aka messengers.. as in Mohammad, Isa, Musa etc.......

In my life time, i have came across non-believing Muslims in Europe and so called ''momins'' living as Non_Muslim in so called Islamic states... as an example.

 

[Clutch]

The recent murders of three innocent civilians in Nice following controversy over a teacher’s decision to show his students the infamous Charlie Hebdo cartoons is highlighting a significant weakness in logic in the Islamic world.
I honestly don’t know what to make of France. Not the people –nor the country itself– but the foreign policy inclinations of its respective governments, including those under the leadership of Emmanuel Macron. As a former anti-terrorism cop recently told RT, France may have brought Jihad on itself – in more ways than one.
In Libya, for example, France and its NATO cohorts (in a bombing campaign unofficially orchestrated by the US) provided air cover to al-Qaeda-linked extremists to topple Muammar Gaddafi. Those extremists were the very same militants that US troops had been fighting against for years in Iraq, and almost undoubtedly the same militants that France was supposedly fighting against in Mali.
READ MORE
‘We are in a war’: French interior minister says country must brace for more terrorist attacks fueled by ‘Islamist ideology’
The decision to destroy Libya did nothing if not spur the spread of Islamic extremism across the African continent and directly exacerbate a looming refugee crisis. Weapons, extremism and slavery began being exported out of what had been transformed into a failed state – all thanks to France. According to some reports, during its bombing campaign, NATO forces also bombed and rendered ineffective a major water supply infrastructure which provided water to 70 percent of Libya’s population. One would think the bombing of 70 percent of the water supply of a Muslim-majority nation should surely rouse at least one Muslim protest, but I digress.
When the French government isn’t bombing Muslim-majority nations, it’s wreaking economic havoc on these states through the use of the France-backed CFA (French Colonies of Africa) franc. As Italy’s former deputy minister and current minister of foreign affairs said “France is one of those countries that, by printing money for 14 African states, prevent their economic development and contribute to the fact that the refugees leave and then die in the sea or arrive on our coasts.”
France has a long and unappreciated history of undermining Islamic civilizations, from Syria to Algeria. During the war of Algerian independence, French soldiers committed a host of atrocities, including torture. 300,000 Algerians died as a result of the conflict. Barely spoken about in the mainstream media, it remains a controversial aspect of France’s bloody history.
This is all barely scratching the surface. An entire book would barely do justice to this topic, yet it’s one I hoped Western media had paid a greater deal of attention to.
Equally frustrating, however, is the Muslim world’s indifferent reaction to these pertinent facts. Where is the Muslim world’s condemnation of France’s very real participation in the genocidal mayhem being inflicted on our Muslim brothers and sisters in Yemen? Where is the unification, the protests and the rallying each time an innocent Muslim is killed due to France’s longstanding imperialist ambitions?
You throw a cartoon in the mix and it’s a different kettle of fish. Add in a president stating that he won’t denounce said cartoons, the equation suddenly results in the following: widespread calls to boycott French products with Qatar and Kuwait actively removing French products from their stores; defamatory remarks from the Turkish president against Macron directly; protests in Israel, Gaza, Bangladesh, Iran, Afghanistan, and Jordan, to name a few; the burning of French flags as well as condemnation from major newspapers until a fanatical lunatic decides to publicly behead innocent French Church-goers, as if it’s the year 629 AD.
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Macron needs the help of Muslim world leaders or France’s tally of decapitated heads will continue to rise
One Iranian newspaper even called Macron the “Demon of Paris.” Oh – so now he is the demon of Paris. Not when he actively bombed Iran’s closest ally in the Middle East in flagrant violation of international law. Not when he continued to sell arms to Saudi Arabia to commit an endless supply of war crimes in Yemen, another supposed Iranian ally.
“It’s prohibited to draw Mohammed,” one party leader in Bangladesh named Ahmad Abdul Quiayum said, addressing a crowd of protesters.
Except that it’s not. Not according to the Western ideals of free speech – the West being where these drawings took place. As in, you can’t exact Islamic laws on non-Muslims who reside in non-Muslim nations. Even if you agree with Quiayum, you would still have to grapple with the fact that there is no legal, logical or moral requirement for French people to abide by archaic Muslim values.
Supposing I did agree with Quaiyum; how can it be that the depiction of a prophet is higher up on the list of things that enrage Muslim people in comparison to the bombing of our people, the incessant proxy wars plaguing our regions, the backing and funding of terror groups for the pursuit of unstated geopolitical aims, or the mass looting of our resources and the hampering of our countries’ progress?
Real Islamophobia is more than just a sharply-drawn middle finger to the Muslim community from a handful of satirical cartoonists. I’d prefer to think that the God of the Muslim world would not concern himself with such petty, imaginary crimes. Not when we have plenty of very real and serious war crimes and crimes against humanity that we could actually protest about with the aim of exacting real change to benefit some of the most vulnerable people in this world.
And, if you’re offended by this article, I can’t help but notice you’ve essentially proved my point.
The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.

Muslims are strangely obsessed with cartoons, all while there are very real crimes over which they should be angry at France

The recent murders of three innocent civilians in Nice following controversy over a teacher’s decision to show his students the infamous Charlie Hebdo cartoons is highlighting a significant weakness in logic in the Islamic world.

www.rt.com

The writer doesn't get it .. out Prophet is a rallying cry.... Nothing else matters. They don't get it.... It's not about the medium (cartoon)

Listen cartoons of Hindu, Buddhist, Christian personalities are also made and displayed but Hindus, Buddhists and Christians don't go around killing anyone. What we do is we protest against them.

Moreover killing a person for blasphemy in Europe makes no sense. Basically you are asking for trouble when you're doing that.

If Muslims would've protested against the cartoons instead of killing the teacher than muslims would have gained huge support and eventually the cartoons including Charlie hebdo would have been closed down. By killing the teacher you gave the Christian and white extremists further opportunities to demonize muslims.

Was he stabbed by over 1.5 Billion people?... Didn't know that.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

You right, but I do not need to listen to you or any one to understand which behavior is wild and which is civilized.

Unfortunately... Islam is infiltrated with evil, who's purpose is to malign Islam and divide Muslims.
Cartoon is one given opportunity to exploit....

un-Islamic behavior of so called Muslims is not limited to the inappropriate and idiotic reaction to ''cartoons'' but most of what we do in the name of Islam, is exactly what is against the message of our creator and practice of message bearers aka messengers.. as in Mohammad, Isa, Musa etc.......

In my life time, i have came across non-believing Muslims in Europe and so called ''momins'' living as Non_Muslim in so called Islamic states... as an example.

Also Charlie Hebdo is not specifically a Islamophobic outlet. They equally bash Jesus, Moses, Buddha and Hindu deities.

Islamophobic is when you target muslims and leave the rest.

 

[nahtanbob]

The writer doesn't get it .. out Prophet is a rallying cry.... Nothing else matters. They don't get it.... It's not about the medium (cartoon)

re-read your post ...

stabbing, terrorism, rape, murder, ignorance, corruption is fine. but draw a carton of our prophet we are going to get mad

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

if someone calls a black person the n word- it is looked at as a provocation and people won't feel sorry for you if the person reacts. I don't agree with the violence and I do feel bad for the innocent people... but the ones who have gone out of their way to push anti-Muslim bigotry and insult the religion of over a billion people- I don't feel sorry for them anymore than I would feel sorry for someone who goes out of his way to antagonize a black person and call them the n word and ends up getting hurt. I definitely would not agree with violence in that situation but I wouldn't feel sorry for the one who provoked it.

even in the West, there has been recognized such a concept as "fighting words"

"Fighting words are, as first defined by the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) in Chaplinsky v New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568 (1942), words which "by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace."

"It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality.""

fighting words

www.law.cornell.edu

you might agree or not agree with

the US Supreme Court in 1942

"Fighting words are, as first defined by the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) in Chaplinsky v New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568 (1942)"

but is the US Supreme Court of 1942 now a body of religious extremism? Where they hardcore religious fundamentalists for affirming the concept of fighting words? If accepting the concept of fighting words and placing restriction on fighting words is acceptable then there is no problem in restricting blasphemy. If you can prohibit asking too many questions about the Holocaust, it is hypocrisy to act as though prohibiting blasphemy is beyond the pale.