Muslim Union like NATO to defend ourselves muslims

[Hawk]

Guys have you seen Nato countries are soooo united and strong. I have an idea. As time is passing Alhamdulillah muslim countries getting stronger except some of them. So why not form our own NATO WITH OUR OWN MILITARY FORCES. I mean If we put together the following countries, we'll be a group to reckon with. I'm making this plan because, one afther another muslim country getting attacked. I mean it can be,God forbid, Iran or syria. So why not forming a Mulim NATO type group where muslims will have defence military and economy development cooperation. The following countries are coming to my head now:

Bangladesh, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Libya, Nigeria, Indonesia, Malaysia, Morocco, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Ethiopia, Bosnia, Maldives and Albania.

What do you think????

 

[Sharjeel]

"Is Parcham Keh saye tale hum aik hein hum aik hein"

Parcham reffers to the Shadat (LA ILAHA ILALLAH MOHAMMED UN RASOOL ALLAH)

 

[EagleEyes]

Your plan is the greatest and the most hardest plan. The strong relations between these countries dont occur due to geographical differences, and countries like in Europe wont let anything happen like that especially organization like NATO, beacause they wouldn't want another organization competing with them and has different point of views.

When this plan occurs it will be a benefit to everybody than there will be problems inside our own country like in politics, uniting Bangladesh with Pakistan is the most hardest thing every, but creating such organization to make stronger ties wouldn't be a hard thing. The countries need to get United in form of organization where they can talk about foriegn policies, trade, and fix any problems which muslim nations are having currently. When all the countries make up same point of view, their point will be a lot stronger when it will be supported by other muslim countries. Also each country will have strong forigen policy, and there will be a huge economic boost, since than our organization will have something that other countries will rely on and that is OIL!

Originally posted by Yahya@Nov 15 2005, 10:13 PM
"Is Parcham Keh saye tale hum aik hein hum aik hein"

Parcham reffers to the Shadat (LA ILAHA ILALLAH MOHAMMED UN RASOOL ALLAH)

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[Sharjeel]

another way is to add anohter tier to the goverment...i think OIC can evolve into this role.

 

[A.Rahman]

Organisation of the Islamic Conference

The OIC comprises 57 states dispersed over four continents, spanning from Albania (Europe) in the north to Mozambique (Africa) in the south, and from Guyana (Latin America) in the west to Indonesia (Asia) in the east.

But, despite its size, which includes nearly one-third of the members of the United Nations, its numerous committees and the scope of its stated activities, the OIC is run on a shoe-string budget.

The supreme body of the OIC is the Conference of Heads of State, which convenes every three years. The first summit conference, held in Rabat in 1969, decided that member states would "consult together with a view to promoting close cooperation and mutual assistance in the economic, scientific, cultural and spiritual fields, inspired by the immortal teachings of Islam".

In the interval between summits, OIC foreign ministers meet to oversee the implementation of decisions taken by the heads of state. The first foreign ministers' meeting took place in 1972, when the OIC Charter was adopted.

However, the day-to-day running of the OIC is left to the Secretariat, which consists of a secretary-general and four assistant secretaries-general.

FACTS

Founded: 1969
Membership: 57 states
Population: 650 million (21% of world population)
Members' resources: 70% of world crude oil reserves; 50% of world natural gas reserves

Although a useful forum for discussion, the OIC lacks the means to implement its resolutions, which often remain as unheeded declarations.

Thus, despite a 1981 call to redouble efforts "for the liberation of Jerusalem and the occupied territories" and to institute an economic boycott of Israel, several members, including Indonesia, Egypt, Jordan and Arab Gulf states, maintain economic ties with Israel.

Furthermore, pledges for financial aid to member states or to Muslim communities suffering from civil war or natural disasters are often at best met only in part.

As a broad organisation whose member states are widely dispersed geographically, the effectiveness of the OIC has also been constrained by the fact that many of its members have a wide variety of political orientations, from revolutionary Iran to conservative Saudi Arabia. Members have sometimes been in bitter dispute with one another, such as Iraq and Iran and Iraq and Kuwait.

While the net effect of these differences is often weak resolutions or ones that are honoured only in breach, sometimes they result in the boycott of summit conferences altogether, such as happened in 1991, when 12 Arab heads of state failed to turn up in Senegal in protest against the presence of Jordan and the Palestine Liberation Organisation, which had taken Baghdad's side in the war which followed Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.

 

[Sharjeel]

the OIC how ever is now being heavily reformed to give it those sharp teeth.
the OIC is also a Nueclear Power and has quite an weopens industry.

for example one member state manufactures F16s and is in the team of nations developing the JSF.

another member state is making strides in missiles technology.

the list is endless of the achievement of the OIC.

the OIC is rapidly changing and will soon awaken.

Iran Iraq war is over so is Iraq Quwait..

 

[Sharjeel]

OIC SECRETARY GENERAL RECEIVES UNQUALIFIED SUPPORT FOR HIS OIC REFORM PLAN FROM MALAYSIAN DIGNITARIES AND THE OIC COMMISSION OF EMINENT PERSONS

(PUTRAJAYA, 26-28 JANUARY 2005)

The OIC Secretary General, H.E. Professor Dr. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, concluded a highly successful visit to Putrajaya, Malaysia from 26-28 January 2005 to participate in the inaugural meeting of the OIC Commission of Eminent Persons.

The OIC Commission was established pursuant to an initiative of President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan, which was unanimously adopted under Resolution No. 45/10-P(IS) entitled "Islam and the Muslim World in the 21st Century – The Path of Enlightened Moderation" during the 10th OIC Summit in Putrajaya, Malaysia in October 2003 and reiterated under Resolution No. 50/31-P during the 31st Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers in Istanbul, Turkey in June 2004.

Under the provisions of these two resolutions, the Chairman of the OIC Summit was mandated to constitute an OIC Commission of Eminent Persons in order to finalize recommendations on the following three areas. These finalized recommendations were to be submitted to the next ICFM in Sana'a in June 2005 and subsequently adopted by an Extraordinary Session of the Islamic Summit Conference:-

i. To prepare a strategy and plan of action enabling the Islamic Ummah to meet the challenges of the 21st century.

ii. To prepare a comprehensive plan for promoting universally and in particular within Islamic societies, policies and programmes for promoting enlightened moderation.

iii. To prepare recommendations for reform and restructuring of the OIC system, taking into account the efforts already initiated in this regard, as well as the question of voluntary financing of OIC's activities and programmes.

Consequently, the Government of Malaysia hosted the inaugural meeting of this OIC Commission of Eminent Persons comprising 16 Commissioners representing five countries each from the African, Arab and Asian regions, under the Chairmanship of the Commissioner from Malaysia. The meeting was attended by 13 designated Commissioners.

The opening session of the inaugural meeting was addressed by H.E. Dato Seri Abdullah Haji Ahmad Badawi, Prime Minister of Malaysia; H.E. Professor Dr. Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, the OIC Secretary General and H.E. Dato Seri Syed Hamid Albar, Foreign Minister of Malaysia. The complete text of the Secretary General's key-note address, which was widely disseminated in the media, is also available on the OIC's web-site.

Following the opening session, three working sessions were held of the Group to exclusively focus on each of its three mandated tasks. For its part, the OIC General Secretariat had prepared and circulated three working papers for facilitating the deliberations of the three working sessions.

The Secretary General actively participated in the third working session on the reform & restructuring of the OIC system. He elaborated the following three priority areas for reform of the Organization. All these three priority areas were strongly supported by the Commissioners and subsequently incorporated in the Group's final recommendations:

i. Revision of the outdated OIC Charter, including the need for elaborating a disciplined criteria for OIC's membership.

ii. Radical reform of the OIC General Secretariat by employing qualified and committed personnel, in a transparent manner.

iii. Establishment of an effective mechanism for implementation of OIC Summit and Ministerial resolutions, through possibly the two Summit and Ministerial Troikas and the host country.

Utilizing his visit, the Secretary General called on H.E. Dato Seri Abdullah Haji Ahmad Badawi, Prime Minister of Malaysia, H.E. Dr. Mahathir Muhammad, former Prime Minister of Malaysia and also held an extensive meeting with the H.E. Dato Seri Syed Hamid Albar, Foreign Minister of Malaysia. All these meetings received prominent coverage in the electronic and print media.

During all these meetings, fruitful discussions were held on various ways and means to achieve the objectives of improving the effectiveness of the OIC; of projecting the causes of the Muslim World and in collectively confronting the unprecedented global challenges. The OIC Secretary General was assured the unequivocal and categorical support, both in financial and political terms, by the Malaysian dignitaries for undertaking the necessary reforms in order to transform the organization into an effective and credible interlocutor on the world stage.

As a reflection of Malaysia's commitment to remain actively involved in the OIC reform plan, Prime Minister Badawi intends to follow-up his discussions during his forthcoming visit to the OIC General Secretariat on the sidelines of the Jeddah Economic Forum.

http://www.oic-oci.org/

 

[Sharjeel]

http://www.oic-oci.org/english/main/organisational-chart.htm

 

[EagleEyes]

Originally posted by Yahya@Nov 16 2005, 10:22 PM
http://www.oic-oci.org/english/main/organisational-chart.htm

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Looks pretty organized, but it doesn't have much external powers, and is not much supported by overall countries as much it needs to.

 

[Sharjeel]

Originally posted by Ahsan F@Nov 16 2005, 10:45 PM
Looks pretty organized, but it doesn't have much external powers, and is not much supported by overall countries as much it needs to.

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thats the old one...

the new reforms will enable the OIC to muster a LOT more power. out of its assets.

 

[sigatoka]

Before Muslim nations run; they must learn to walk. While I opposed the Iraq war strongly because the intentions of the U.S. was not "pure" i was happy to see the backside of Saddam Hussein. Saddam symbolised everything wrong for the Muslim world. Saddam caused 200billion dollars of damage to Iran; 1.5 trillion U.S. dollars of either wasted or forgone Income of the Iraqi nation and 0.5trillion U.S. dollars of defence spending by Saudi Arabia and Gulf region states which would otherwise have been put into infrastructure and education.

This war mongering fool symbolised the failures of the last generation of leaders of the Islamic world. With this one fool gone at least we can at least move beyond constant intra-muslim warfare and onto some economic, political and military co-operation between muslim states. After some years of experience in small co-operation can any hope of Muslim NATO be realised.

 

[Sharjeel]

Originally posted by sigatoka@Nov 29 2005, 02:35 PM
Before Muslim nations run; they must learn to walk. While I opposed the Iraq war strongly because the intentions of the U.S. was not "pure" i was happy to see the backside of Saddam Hussein. Saddam symbolised everything wrong for the Muslim world. Saddam caused 200billion dollars of damage to Iran; 1.5 trillion U.S. dollars of either wasted or forgone Income of the Iraqi nation and 0.5trillion U.S. dollars of defence spending by Saudi Arabia and Gulf region states which would otherwise have been put into infrastructure and education.

This war mongering fool symbolised the failures of the last generation of leaders of the Islamic world. With this one fool gone at least we can at least move beyond constant intra-muslim warfare and onto some economic, political and military co-operation between muslim states. After some years of experience in small co-operation can any hope of Muslim NATO be realised.

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Pakistan, Iran, Turky had a nato like system before!!! open boarders, and a lot more!

and more and more nations where joining!! untill it was eliminated.