Muslim nations accuse Iran of supporting terrorism: summit communique

[Norwegian]

Shia is not orthodox Islam. Shia do not accept Abu Bakr as the first imam. That means Shia reject history. History cannot be changed. That means history is God's judgment. That means Shia reject God's judgment.

Shia is as much a Muslim as a Ahmadiyya Muslim or Druze or Alawite. The majority of Muslims (sunnis) have no copyright on Islam.

 

[flamer84]

I'd like to see which Muslim country can make a tank engine.

halal engine

 

[Aramagedon]

I'd like to see which Muslim country can make a tank engine.

LOL...

 

[flamer84]

I'd like to see which Muslim country can make a tank engine.

Surely there must be a fatwa for that.

 

[The SiLent crY]

Pls don't add fuel in sectarian differences. Pakistan is neighbouring country of Iran with Sunni majority and many Pakistani's consider Iran as brotherly country yet as a nation they face bitter treatment from Iran. Iran has made pacts with India just like KSA did. But in addition to that has become directly/indirectly center of Anti Pak activities. One example of sectarian base is that whenever any mishap happens with Shias Iran not only condemns the act but also the Govt. But only a mere or no greaf is shown by Iran when same things happen with Sunnis.

To me my friend Iran and KSA are both different sides of same coin killings and bloodshed in Islamic world is not started just now it is happening since Caliphate times due to divisions between two sects. The same may be stopped by dialogue not showing hatred towards KSA only.

Iran is not working against Pakistan but Saudis are . It's not Iran that has built dozens of dangerous schools in every corner of Pakistan to brainwash people and turn them to Al Qaeda , ISIS , Taliban etc but Saudi Arabia has .

Besides , Iran is condemning attacks against Shias because 9 out of 10 terrorist attacks in Pakistan are against Shia civilians not Sunnis .

How are Iran and Saudi Arabia the same ? , How ?

Saudi Arabia is the ideological mother of Salaf / Takfiri groups all over the world and you can see the result around the world , From Iraq , Syria , Afghanistan , Pakistan , Yemen , Egypt to Paris , Brussels etc .

 

[B@KH]

Honestly, I feel like the OIC is picking on Iran because of Saudi Arabia's influence. But recently Iran has been playing proxy wars and support pro-Shia groups all around the middle-east which only adds flame to the fire in an already sectarian conflicted region.

Iran needs to stop meddling in foreign affairs and focus on its own country. Nonetheless it should exert influence on its neighbors - Yemen is not a neighbor of Iran and Iran should not be involved there, period.

It is not a secret that OIC is in control of the Monarchs and This is not the first time that OIC platform is used against Islamic IRAN. Due to saudi blessings Saddam too used this platform many times against Islamic IRAN.

being neighbor does not mean saudi should invade or interfere in Yemen and keep it a backward country. IRAN is not bombing and destroying Yemen. It is saudi that is bombing and destroying yemen.

ISLAMIC IRAN supports resistance front. Monarchist and their Allies cannot succeed in Islamic countries anymore.

Pls don't add fuel in sectarian differences. Pakistan is neighboring country of Iran with Sunni majority and many Pakistani's consider Iran as brotherly country yet as a nation they face bitter treatment from Iran. Iran has made pacts with India just like KSA did. But in addition to that has become directly/indirectly center of Anti Pak activities. One example of sectarian base is that whenever any mishap happens with Shias Iran not only condemns the act but also the Govt. But only a mere or no greaf is shown by Iran when same things happen with Sunnis.

To me my friend Iran and KSA are both different sides of same coin killings and bloodshed in Islamic world is not started just now it is happening since Caliphate times due to divisions between two sects. The same may be stopped by dialogue not showing hatred towards KSA only.

The victory of the Islamic Revolution in IRAN gave birth to People resistance and strengthened it. People resistance is unbeatable by the monarchs and their allies usa and west.

KSA should return to Islamic system instead of Monarchy and all islamic world will welcome it.

It is illogical that Shias who defeated shia monarchy and supported Islamic Revolution should now start respecting Arab monarchy when Islam rejects monarchy. it is the same saudi that supported Iraq's invasion and 8 years of war against IRAN, started war against Syria, started war against Yemen, invited usa to gulf etc.

There is no point to blame Islamic IRAN and it is saudi that is the center of Anti Pak, Anti Syria, Anti Yemen, Anti Iraq, Anti IRAN activity.

 

[ptldM3]

The biggest supporters of terrorism is Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Captured Isis fighters pretty much all admit that they crossed into Syria from Turkey and they were trained in Turkey. A number of countries including US officials have admitted Turkey trades oil with ISIS and Turkish officials have contacts with ISIS.

As for Saudi Arabia, Saudi government "aid" just somehow keeps finding its way to ISIS.


As for Iranian interference in Syria and Yemen....last time I check gulf states have been bombing Yemen for over a year (totall failure and humiliation by the way). Moreover, gulf states as well as Turkey are providing, weapons, training, fighters (terrorists), and intelligence to overthrow the Syrian government.

 

[Madali]

So what's new? When Iraq attacked us, the "ummah" supported him full heartedly. The "Islamic" monarchies have been trying to get rid of us for decades, because we did the unthinkable: We got rid of our own monarchy, and this scared the shit out of them.

We should leave the OIC and let Israel take our seat. It would at least be more honest.

 

[Spectre]

Just an innocent question with no malice intended - How many of these OIC countries sent their forces to defend Iraq when it was decimated by US

 

[CHI RULES]

You said exactly in two paragraphs what I said in few words. Not all the Muslims follow the sectarian divide driven by KSA. I don't know how the different Pakistani religious current inter act with each other, but in North Africa, ie Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia there is no rift among the different groups. And friend , I am not a sectarian , a racist toward toward any middle eastern, nor fanning the flames of hatred. Mainly, my reply was to the paid panderer who posted the thread.

Thks for clarification yet one should show hatred equally for both parties KSA and Iran alike for their proxy wars there are many fronts where they can unitedly fight. Major is ISIS menace along with that many African Muslim countries facing aggression from US/French due to their religion.

In Pak thanks to Almighty all sects by large are united though funded elements mostly found in Wahabi sect and Shias are playing their games yet not successful like 80's or 90's era when lot of intellectual were killed only due to sectarian affiliations in Pak yet fortunately the country was saved from becoming Lebanon.

Shia is as much a Muslim as a Ahmadiyya Muslim or Druze or Alawite. The majority of Muslims (sunnis) have no copyright on Islam.

Ahmedias are non Muslims unanimously declared by all other sects, similarly for Druze one living alongside them can't even explain their true beliefs.

 

[Norwegian]

Ahmedias are non Muslims unanimously declared by all other sects, similarly for Druze one living alongside them can't even explain their true beliefs

So? Did God declare them non Muslims?

 

[CHI RULES]

So? Did God declare them non Muslims?

not God but Allah did so as basic beliefs of Islam can't be changed not by any sect.

 

[Serpentine]

Just an innocent question with no malice intended - How many of these OIC countries sent their forces to defend Iraq when it was decimated by US

They provided bases for U.S forces. There is no word to properly describe vile nature of these Arab monarchies.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Iran is not working against Pakistan but Saudis are . It's not Iran that has built dozens of dangerous schools in every corner of Pakistan to brainwash people and turn them to Al Qaeda , ISIS , Taliban etc but Saudi Arabia has .

Besides , Iran is condemning attacks against Shias because 9 out of 10 terrorist attacks in Pakistan are against Shia civilians not Sunnis .

How are Iran and Saudi Arabia the same ? , How ?

Saudi Arabia is the ideological mother of Salaf / Takfiri groups all over the world and you can see the result around the world , From Iraq , Syria , Afghanistan , Pakistan , Yemen , Egypt to Paris , Brussels etc .

Dude its not like that.

Answer to yr first paragraph;
Our complains with iran r regarding its relations with india which is the bitter enemy of islam in south asia regardless of sunni or shia. That too are based to target us and our National, geographic and geo political interests.
Answer to yr 2nd paragraph;
Rubbish there r no 9 out of 10 attacks here r on shias. I rather find it amusing that u it seems know about my country more then us who r defending her. Pakistanis arnt like ordinary middle eastern countries. We arnt narrow minded to take the mere sectarian differences too seriously like countries in our west do yes including yr country and saudis.

Our problems are far greater then that, we have an enemy much like a bigger version of israel right next door ie india. We just dont have luxury to go into such small little things. Besides this is South Asia where we live in, it has different psyche which is bit more tolerant. Here Islam was spread not on sectarian basis but on Sufism. In here we see things differently. We believe in unity regardless of sects. We have even elected Shia leaders here countless times. Two of our former head of states were Shia in their sect Like Zardari and Musharaf. And Before them our 2 times elected PM Benazir Bhutto in 90s was a shia too and she was wife of Zardari. That Mushy was Chief of Army Staff too. The father of our nation (Quaid e Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah) as well as of our SSG (Gen Mitha) were Shias too.

But yes Iran is also following the same narrow minded approach of Saudia Arabia ie to follow only its own sect and people who adhere it. thats why we never see iran condemning only the unfortunate attacks on Shia community only not the attacks where everyone was targeted like the one in a public park Lahore last month? here in our country attacks happen on public places like parks etc where families gather on holiday for picnics or just walk. Their nature of attacks dont suggest that they r done to target a specific community or adheres of a particular sect.

Here in our country the nature of things are different. Thats why even Saudia arabia couldnt succeed here in turning our country completely into just Sunni country and a hub of terrorism. Eventually our Forces got the better of them. And now those sectarian attacks which were in their peak in 2010-2012 have stopped. These days we have even banned the Molvies to do hate speech targetting any sect on friday prayers or other prayers to instigate the ordinary people.
Because Pakistan is a country of 200 million people(8th largest in world) and out of them 20% of our population are Shias which are just half of then yr overall total population of 80 million.

As for yr 3rd paragraph;
Saudia Arabia is the ideological mother.... yes it is same as how yr country is of its particular sect. Iran is unfortunately is doing the same as saudia arabia is doing ie to mobilize people of its own sect against other sects. That is the crux of what even Saudia Arabia is also doing and was doing in my country where it couldnt find success and is now exploiting other countries with same tactics and goals.

As an outsider, the way i see it u guys are the different sides of the same coin. There doesnt seen to be much of a difference b/w u two.

So what's new? When Iraq attacked us, the "ummah" supported him full heartedly. The "Islamic" monarchies have been trying to get rid of us for decades, because we did the unthinkable: We got rid of our own monarchy, and this scared the shit out of them.

We should leave the OIC and let Israel take our seat. It would at least be more honest.

We were in yr side when iraq attacked u btw.

 

[livingdead]

both side do it... no need to pick on iran