Muslim man dragged away from dying daughter by UK police

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

The legality of them ceasing active treatment prior to completion of a legal court order on the matter? Your thoughts as a medical professional?

It is more of a legal issue. They would have to go through the courts and get a court order.

They cannot unilaterally make these decisions. This is how it works in the US.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Utterly disgraceful. Doctors have said they intend to remove the dying child's tube and then proceed to drag the parents out of the room forcefully??

I don't know the full context but on the face of it, the ITU staff have hell to answer for here. Parents of dying children must not be forced away from their child like this. You give them an extra hour. You give them an extra 5 hours. You cannot set the cops on them like this.

Again, it's not to do with their religion or ethnicity (at least I hope it isn't), so thread title is misleading. It's just a twisted arrogance and "God mentality" of the staff on the ward. Even the police are less to blame here because they're following orders. They've been called by the staff to do a job and they did it. Unbelievable.

Now what seems to complicate this further is that some legal challenge was perhaps underway to stop the doctors from extubating this patient. How on earth then can the ITU staff extubate this patient until that legal process is completed?? There are some serious questions to answer here and I hope the victims have a good lawyer who will ask these questions of the hospital. If a court order is pending for extubation, you cannot just yank the tube out and cease active treatment until that legal process is done.

Now when all that's said and done, here's the kicker....the couple were doctors themselves! Wtf is going on??

Thoughts of pdf doctors on this incident?

@halupridol

Can't seem to tag padamchen.

However dragging someone out by force is never acceptable. This is overstep of authority. There is going to be big blowback, esp from the Muslim community.

 

[Longhorn]

"You are acting like an animal; it's disgusting," a female police officer told Abbasi as his legs and ankles were strapped together.

Wow. Just wow. I would have slapped the crap out of this police officer. Disgusting cops. They are hated everywhere for a reason.

They are generally hated by people who want to break the law. The police's job is to make sure the law is enforced and that involves making sure people don't do as they want outside the law.
Never had a problem with the police and, quite frankly, I think they do a great job on the whole.
Problems can and do occur sometimes but without them there would be anarchy.

 

[Longhorn]

However dragging someone out by force is never acceptable. This is overstep of authority. There is going to be big blowback, esp from the Muslim community.

There won't be any blowback from anyone because most people in this country are quite sensible.
This happened a year ago and most people had never heard of this incident.

 

[Dalit]

They are generally hated by people who want to break the law. The police's job is to make sure the law is enforced and that involves making sure people don't do as they want outside the law.
Never had a problem with the police and, quite frankly, I think they do a great job on the whole.
Problems can and do occur sometimes but without them there would be anarchy.

Yeah. You got some tough heroes dragging a mourning father and mother from their dying daughter. Looks like these cops deserve a medal from the queen.

"You are acting like an animal; it's disgusting," a female police officer told Abbasi as his legs and ankles were strapped together.

Which cop says this to mourning parents? The animal here are your hero cops who are most likely Muslim hating cvnts.

 

[Shantanu_Left]

Yeah. You got some tough heroes dragging a mourning father and mother from their dying daughter. Looks like these cops deserve a medal from the queen.

"You are acting like an animal; it's disgusting," a female police officer told Abbasi as his legs and ankles were strapped together.

Which cop says this to mourning partners? The animal here are your hero cops who are most likely Muslim hating cvnts.

Dalit (I like your choice of username )

This story highlights the bitter reality of our world. It's an unfair place and there's nothing you can do to change the White Westerner's perception of the racial and cultural foreigners living in their surroundings. You cannot change the hearts of the Israeli soldiers murdering the Palestinian children (they have a reason to justify it).

You don't gain equality by demanding to be treated as an equal. You gain equality (and win respect) by fighting for your rights - by shaming your oppressors. As Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., and Nelson Mandela once have demonstrated.

Today's oppressed classes do not have the stomach for a fight. As we most recently saw with Kashmiris living in Indian-administered Kashmir. They want 4G Internet to watch TikTok videos.....the scrapping of their state's autonomy and the very theft of its identity means less to them.

 

[Shantanu_Left]

Wow this is beyond inhuman. And these same ppl call themselves civilized. Reality is they are worst than animals. A big lesson for those who want to live in those shithole countries just for money.

If it ain't White, it ain't right.

Only Singapore knows how to treat White people equally. They don't enjoy any special privilege in our country. The rest of the non-White world, which I have discussed in other threads, worships White people. They deserve what they get.

What's the world's population? 7 billion.
How many White people? 700 million tops...10 Percent
How many Non-White people? 6.3 billon....90 Percent

Who runs the World Economy and has more wealth? Of course, the 10 percenters

The 90 percenters are too fragmented to ever unite, and are therefore complicit in their own oppression.

 

[Shantanu_Left]

They look like an innocent couple. Damn I hate these racists so much.

 

[Dalit]

Dalit (I like your choice of username )

This story highlights the bitter reality of our world. It's an unfair place and there's nothing you can do to change the White Westerner's perception of the racial and cultural foreigners living in their surroundings. You cannot change the hearts of the Israeli soldiers murdering the Palestinian children (they have a reason to justify it).

You don't gain equality by demanding to be treated as an equal. You gain equality (and win respect) by fighting for your rights - by shaming your oppressors. As Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., and Nelson Mandela once have demonstrated.

Today's oppressed classes do not have the stomach for a fight. As we most recently saw with Kashmiris living in Indian-administered Kashmir. They want 4G Internet to watch TikTok videos.....the scrapping of their state's autonomy and the very theft of its identity means less to them.

Well said bro. I share your thoughts on this.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Well said bro. I share your thoughts on this.

Be careful of this poster.

Here he has snuck in misrepresentation of Kashmiris in a thread completely unrelated to Indian war crimes in Indian-occupied Kashmir.

@Musings @PAKISTANFOREVER @Verve

 

[Redbeanpaste]

All said and done, we all know something like this would never have happened to white parents , no matter what their issue with the hospital was. The Brit police would never drag a white father from his dying white child. And if by some great coincidence they did. The media would not have kept quiet about it.
Unfortunate reality.

 

[tman786]

Agree completely

This was horrible to watch

All said and done, we all know something like this would never have happened to white parents , no matter what their issue with the hospital was. The Brit police would never drag a white father from his dying white child. And if by some great coincidence they did. The media would not have kept quiet about it.
Unfortunate reality.

 

[Indos]

Here is the full story, a sad tale indeed of desperate parents resorting to desperate measures to keep their child alive - against all hope and against medical advise. Nothing to see here folks, only a twisted individual twisting the narrative to suit some twisted agenda.


The couple's six-year-old daughter Zainab was suffering from respiratory problems and a rare genetic illness called Niemann-Pick syndrome.

"We have just been told about half an hour ago that they are going to take the tube out and that our daughter is going to die," Aliva told police officers as they repeatedly asked Abbasi to join them outside the room.

The police were called to the hospital, which cannot be named for legal reasons, after a complaint about Abbasi's behaviour due to a protracted dispute between the girl's parents and doctors over Zainab's healthcare.

The couple insisted they wanted the hospital to try a treatment they believed would help, against the advice of the hospital's doctors, who claimed nothing more could be done and she should be allowed to die.

The dispute escalated after the police repeatedly asked the 59-year-old father to step outside the intensive care unit room. Abbasi refused to leave and continued holding his daughter's hand.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...i-dying-daughter-bedside-200804131021115.html


Type A
Some children with the type A form of Niemann-Pick live to the age of 4. However, a majority of children with this type die in infancy.

Type B
Those with Niemann-Pick type B may survive into late childhood or early adulthood, but they often have health problems such as respiratory failure or complications related to an enlarged liver or spleen.

Type C
Niemann-Pick type C is always fatal. However, life expectancy depends on when symptoms begin. If symptoms appear in infancy, your child isn’t likely to live past the age of 5. If symptoms appear after 5 years of age, your child is likely to live until about 20 years of age. Each person may have a slightly different outlook depending on their symptoms and the severity of the disease.
https://www.healthline.com/health/niemann-pick-disease#outlook

In Indonesia, doctor and hospital can only do such measure if the family of the patience allow it. I know it since 2 of my brother and sister working as doctors in hospital. My father also has similar condition and the hospital was only allowed to let go the supporting life equipment after my family accept it. This is something that I think is not right in western hospital procedures and must be condemned.

 

[PakSword]

A complete story...

UK: Police drag Rashid Abbasi from dying daughter's bedside
Video shows scuffle between police and NHS doctor after father refuses to leave bedside of critically ill daughter.

Video footage has emerged showing the father of a dying six-year-old girl being violently dragged away from her hospital bedside.

The video, from a United Kingdom officer's bodycam, showed the moment that police arrived at the intensive care unit room as respiratory expert Rashid Abbasi, who has worked in the UK's National Health Service for more than 30 years, was holding the hand of his daughter and near his wife Aliva, also a doctor.

Thirty minutes prior to the arrival of police, the parents had been told their daughter's life support was going to be withdrawn.

The couple's six-year-old daughter Zainab was suffering from respiratory problems and a rare genetic illness called Niemann-Pick syndrome.

"We have just been told about half an hour ago that they are going to take the tube out and that our daughter is going to die," Aliva told police officers as they repeatedly asked Abbasi to join them outside the room.

The police were called to the hospital, which cannot be named for legal reasons, after a complaint about Abbasi's behaviour due to a protracted dispute between the girl's parents and doctors over Zainab's healthcare.

Thirty minutes prior to the arrival of police, the parents had been told their daughter's life support was going to be withdrawn [Credit: Northumbria Police via Christian Concern via Storyful]

The couple insisted they wanted the hospital to try a treatment they believed would help, against the advice of the hospital's doctors, who claimed nothing more could be done and she should be allowed to die.

The dispute escalated after the police repeatedly asked the 59-year-old father to step outside the intensive care unit room. Abbasi refused to leave and continued holding his daughter's hand.

After a few minutes of talking, officers removed him by force, dragging him away from his daughter's bedside.

Abbasi is seen resisting the police before being slumped on the floor, shouting that he had chest pain and needed his medication. "I'll have a heart attack," Abbasi is heard saying in the video.

Abbasi was later told he had suffered a heart attack and had an angioplasty procedure the next day [Credit: Northumbria Police via Christian Concern via Storyful]

"You are acting like an animal; it's disgusting," a female police officer told Abbasi as his legs and ankles were strapped together.

Abbasi was later told he had suffered a heart attack and had an angioplasty procedure the next day.

The incident took place in August 2019, but the footage has been released now as part of a legal case brought by the parents against Northumbria police.

Six-year-old Zainab died in September 2019, three days before a court hearing on whether the hospital should be allowed to take her off the ventilator.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...i-dying-daughter-bedside-200804131021115.html

Tried to construct something:

respiratory expert Rashid Abbasi, who has worked in the UK's National Health Service for more than 30 years

his wife Aliva, also a doctor

insisted they wanted the hospital to try a treatment they believed would help

 

[PakSword]

"You are acting like an animal; it's disgusting," a female police officer told Abbasi as his legs and ankles were strapped together.

Wow. Just wow. I would have slapped the crap out of this police officer. Disgusting cops. They are hated everywhere for a reason.

A dad who was a respiratory specialist wanted to try something for his daughter.. This was animal behavior, while police dragging him away was indeed very humane.