Muslim Man Beaten to Death in India After Suspected of Slaughtering a Cow

[LadyAleena]

This thread shows perfectly well that multiculturalism won't work for any society.

 

[jamahir]

Deoband was established to counter AMU which was set up by british to introduce modern studies by saying that if Hindus have Varanas Uni , why don't Muslims have Aligarh Uni. Hence Deoband countered it. But Britishers funded Barelvis not Deobandis, to counter Deobandis so that partition happens.

sorry but you have wrong information.

And Muslim league was tremendously supported by Barelvis in favor of Pakistan!

i must research more on that but if you look at the views of the deobandis/tableeghis ( and taliban supporters ) in pakistan, they were and are quite against pakistan as a western-style parliamentary state and quite against jinnah... they will quite prefer a taliban state.

but that really mustn't be the issue.

crucially, the deobandi mullahs in pakistan did everything to prevent pakistan in becoming part of the socialist/progressive bloc.

in india, like i said before, the deobandis are really the "muslim" wing of the sangh parivar.

This thread shows perfectly well that multiculturalism won't work for any society.

it did in iraq and syria, until nato arrived with its "democracy".

 

[HimalyanKingdom]

sorry but you have wrong information.



i must research more on that but if you look at the views of the deobandis/tableeghis ( and taliban supporters ) in pakistan, they were and are quite against pakistan as a western-style parliamentary state and quite against jinnah... they will quite prefer a taliban state.

but that really mustn't be the issue.

crucially, the deobandi mullahs in pakistan did everything to prevent pakistan in becoming part of the socialist/progressive bloc.

in india, like i said before, the deobandis are really the "muslim" wing of the sangh parivar.

I have the correct Info.. I have spoken to deobandis too. This is exactly what they believe. In addition, this was to keep muslims together with nationalism but Barelvis sought a different route.

In Pakistan the deobandi movement was hijacked to create an indirect involvement of Saudi Arab and direct involvement of Pakistan. As their were more Deobandis than Barelvis in numbers. Otherwise Barelvis would have taken this work.

 

[LadyAleena]

it did in iraq and syria, until nato arrived with its "democracy".

Hmmm yes I'd agree it worked well for them before NATO decided to bring "democracy".
But those nations contained mostly Muslim sects and Christians and they share similarities in faith. Muslims and Christians don't really share any similarity with Hinduism when it comes to Cows.
So Muslims and Christians will never integrate well in India when it comes to consuming beef. Although I would like to see Indian users address the questions about why India allows Hindus in Kerala to consume cow or have no issue with exporting beef to nations abroad ?

Before anyone starts accusing me of being biased, I too wish that Pakistan would be more tolerant of its minorities. I know of some Pakistani Christians who get discriminated for being Christian.

 

[Schutz]

I know the content isnt funny but that headline cracked me up, such a ridiculous thing to read.

 

[jamahir]

I have spoken to deobandis too. This is exactly what they believe.

they are liars.

and when in pre-1947 decades, lot of the muslim world ( led by intellectuals ) was moving towards or discovering socialist/modern-progressive thought, here were these deobandis, trying to pull south asian muslims into fake-muslim backwardness.

the deobandis are as much creations of the british government as are the wahabis.

In addition, this was to keep muslims together with nationalism but Barelvis sought a different route.

nationalism is a historically recent idea, deriving from the french revolution, and it is anti-thesis to both true islam and modern socialism/communism, and the deobandis rejected this.

i think we should be talking about principles rather than the narrow years before 1947, otherwise we will be talking at cross-purposes.

In Pakistan the deobandi movement was hijacked to create an indirect involvement of Saudi Arab and direct involvement of Pakistan. As their were more Deobandis than Barelvis in numbers. Otherwise Barelvis would have taken this work.

hijacked?? when were the deobandis any different??

 

[Pakistani E]

How is this any different from when extremist Muslims beat people to death on charges of blasphemy? Both these kill for religion because they believe somehow that their religious beliefs have been insulted.

I only care about innocent people dying but otherwise I am happy India is becoming a pure 100% dharmic nation.

 

[jamahir]

Hmmm yes I'd agree it worked well for them before NATO decided to bring "democracy".
But those nations contained mostly Muslim sects and Christians and they share similarities in faith.

i agree but also wish to add the point of socialism changing and encouraging most of the communities in those societies so that they looked towards mutual and real progress rather than bickerings and fightings.

pdf's only patriotic syrian member, syrian lion, used to write that syria was a place where neighbors wouldn't know of each others' religion except during weddings or deaths, and that syria was a place where mosques and churches were together places of prayer of both communities.

a uncle of mine, aged now, used to work in iraq until the 1990-91 war and he mentioned to me that iraq was a fine place under saddam, and i am sure he meant the social situation too.

Although I would like to see Indian users address the questions about why India allows Hindus in Kerala to consume cow or have no issue with exporting beef to nations abroad ?

though i have no first-hand experience of kerala, i don't know if cow is the predominant beef there.

and i am sure the precedent set by the recent total beef ban in maharashtra will encourage the national government to slowly enforce beef bans in other places, whether or not the beef is of cow.

Muslims and Christians don't really share any similarity with Hinduism when it comes to Cows.
So Muslims and Christians will never integrate well in India when it comes to consuming beef.

well, like i said in a earlier page, it would help if the muslim intellectuals of india made a announcement that muslims here would not be lesser muslims if they disassociated with cow being part of their food in any remote way... it would help in not giving opportunity to the sangh parivar in provoking riots or lynching muslims like they did now.

Before anyone starts accusing me of being biased, I too wish that Pakistan would be more tolerant of its minorities. I know of some Pakistani Christians who get discriminated for being Christian.

 

[LadyAleena]

i agree but also wish to add the point of socialism changing and encouraging most of the communities in those societies so that they looked towards mutual and real progress rather than bickerings and fightings.

pdf's only patriotic syrian member, syrian lion, used to write that syria was a place where neighbors wouldn't know of each others' religion except during weddings or deaths, and that syria was a place where mosques and churches were together places of prayer of both communities.

a uncle of mine, aged now, used to work in iraq until the 1990-91 war and he mentioned to me that iraq was a fine place under saddam, and i am sure he meant the social situation too.

Tragic to witness a disintegration of such nations. What became of the user Syrian lion ? Did they make it to safety ?
Yes socialism did contribute to more cohesion for this nations. I wish Pakistan could be like the Syria pre- "Arab Spring " farce.

i though i have no first-hand experience of kerala, i don't know if cow is the predominant beef there.

and i am sure the precedent set by the recent total beef ban in maharashtra will encourage the national government to slowly enforce beef bans in other places, whether or not the beef is of cow.

Alright I'll take your word for it since you live in India and you'd know better than me.

iwell, like i said in a earlier page, it would help if the muslim intellectuals of india made a announcement that muslims here would not be lesser muslims if they disassociated with cow being part of their food in any remote way... it would help in not giving opportunity to the sangh parivar in provoking riots or lynching muslims like they did now.

I dislike the taste of beef, so do other family members. If I were Indian, I'd have no issue with not eating beef.
Besides that, I think I read somewhere that Prophet Muhammed(saw) preferred goat meat over beef, Allahu Alim (God knows best).

I do agree, Indian Muslims should give up beef if it's going to lead to violence and conflicts. Doesn't mean they will be any lesser of a Muslim if they abstain from eating beef.

 

[Oracle 33]

Why not?

Being a agnostic Hindu/Buddhist I think the absolute is unknown

Brahman can not be perceived nor could it be described by words. It is beyond senses and intellect. It is indefinable. However, if at all it has to be described; Brahman can be considered as Pure Consciousness

the spirit of Brahman lives in the entire universe that means also the cow so technically maybe we all are part of it.

We don't pray to any stone. We pray to Allah. All Muslims pray to Kabah to make sure that all the muslims living in any part of the world pray in the same direction. To create unity among muslims. There is a huge difference

I am aware of it but if Muslims keep calling Hindus and Jains idol worshipers we can do the same and say hey look they praying to a stone idol.

Even stone has atoms and everything is made up of atoms

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Being a agnostic Hindu/Buddhist I think the absolute is unknown

Brahman can not be perceived nor could it be described by words. It is beyond senses and intellect. It is indefinable. However, if at all it has to be described; Brahman can be considered as Pure Consciousness

the spirit of Brahman lives in the entire universe that means also the cow so technically maybe we all are part of it.



I am aware of it but if Muslims keep calling Hindus and Jains idol worshipers we can do the same and say hey look they praying to a stone idol.

Even stone has atoms and everything is made up of atoms

Yea off course u could say that Muslims pray for the Kaaba. With Vedic logic anything is possible lol.

 

[Indus Falcon]

Muslims worship idols also its called the kabba

You didn't have to open your mouth, to remove any doubt to the level of your stupidity.

The Holy Kabba is a building, a structure, NOT an idol. But going by your logic...............!

 

[Beta-Fighter]

Wrong analogy. If cow is that much important for Hindus then they should stop exporting tonnes of its meat all over the world. Or this gau mata BS is just another excuse to kill muslims?

India dot not export beef but other meat products..... more. Now u have to respect us to get respect.

are you stupid or just stupid?
the Quran is just a Holy BOOK, BOOK, if you dont get it, i will say it again BOOK.

we worship Allah, not the book genius

Holy book, , YOU KILL PERSONs for A BOOK? ONLY FOR A BOOK ???????

When you justify killing for book (non living thing) , then why not person can be killed for killing a living thing?

 

[WoKonTha]

I hope the steak was worth it, enough of this secular BS. If you want to dig into a juicy piece of steak go and live in them secular lala land of kerala or NE, because up here in North we will fork you up with a knife.

This is exactly the type of hatred and bigotry that Quaid-e-Azam foresaw in 1940. He knew you fellas inside out. He knew you people better than you know yourselves. And that's why Pakistan was created. To get away from cancerous bigots like you.

Every time the liberal beghairat brigade tries to convince people that the two nation theory was a bad idea, news like this or posts like your pop up. To show precisely why the beghairat brigade is so extremely wrong.

So thanks for enlightening all of us today.

 

[Djinn]

Barbaric vegetarians is the word that i can think of. Cant even begin to image the anguish minorities go through for living in such a primitive society, where animals are given more regard than humans. Absolutely disgusting.