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This has to be the reason. Suddenly a page appeared "You have broken forum rules", but it was not even said which rules I broke.....I didn't insult someone, I didn't curse, used no foul language, I didn't make any claims without backing them up with evidences (from mostly Pakistani sources!),.....
So yes, you are right, it was annoying that I spoke the truth.
1. When it comes to non-blacks, Iranians are if at all chauvinist and not racist. Racism has a biological meaning, learn the difference.
2. When it comes to Blacks: Yes, Iranians are racist towards Blacks, I never denied that, but this racism is in no way comparable to the anti-black hate of Arabs, let alone that of Pakistanis.
In this thread I have provided dozens of evidences of anti-black racism of Arabs and of Pakistanis (from mostly Pakistani sources!), and I can provide many more evidences....and if you now claim that Iranians are more racist towards Blacks, you are very welcome to provide the evidence for that....but don't come up with 19th century pictures of black slaves in Qajar households! Give me the evidence from today (21st century) of major Iranian racism towards Blacks!
These are descendants of slaves.View attachment 613362 View attachment 613364 View attachment 613365 View attachment 613366 View attachment 613367 View attachment 613368 View attachment 613362
Newsflash! There've been Black Iranians from the beginning-as an Iranian you should know this. I don't blame you though since whitewashing of Black History is a very real extremely successful still ongoing process.
These is the depiction of Elamites on the wall of Ashurbanipal's palace,600 bc.
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Khorramshahr girl.
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Couldn't ID the last 2 but these were the Originals not just in Iran but all over the ME. The first Caucasoids were the Gutites from N Turkey who reached their present location circa 1000 bc. View attachment 613364
We have the same people in Pak too.View attachment 613362 View attachment 613364 View attachment 613365 View attachment 613366 View attachment 613367 View attachment 613368 View attachment 613362
Newsflash! There've been Black Iranians from the beginning-as an Iranian you should know this. I don't blame you though since whitewashing of Black History is a very real extremely successful still ongoing process.
These is the depiction of Elamites on the wall of Ashurbanipal's palace,600 bc.
View attachment 613362
Khorramshahr girl.
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Couldn't ID the last 2 but these were the Originals not just in Iran but all over the ME. The first Caucasoids were the Gutites from N Turkey who reached their present location circa 1000 bc. View attachment 613364
The historic stuff you post dont show africans.View attachment 613362 View attachment 613364 View attachment 613365 View attachment 613366 View attachment 613367 View attachment 613368 View attachment 613362
Newsflash! There've been Black Iranians from the beginning-as an Iranian you should know this. I don't blame you though since whitewashing of Black History is a very real extremely successful still ongoing process.
These is the depiction of Elamites on the wall of Ashurbanipal's palace,600 bc.
View attachment 613362
Khorramshahr girl.
View attachment 613364
View attachment 613365
View attachment 613366
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Couldn't ID the last 2 but these were the Originals not just in Iran but all over the ME. The first Caucasoids were the Gutites from N Turkey who reached their present location circa 1000 bc. View attachment 613364
Kashmiris are our people, dozens of millions of Pakistanis are Kashmiris. Thus our care for them in natural.Would Pakistanis care about Kashmir if Kashmiris were Black???
She isnt even Saudi but ethiopian or sudanese. Go read the article.A black muslim girl from Mecca made a rap song about Mecca. After that she got arrested:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...rest-saudi-female-rapper-200223094118361.html
But also the backclash from Saudi citizens was enormous, and their main complain was her black african skin, they are using disgusting racial slurs against her! If an ethnic Saudi girl had done the same, everything would have been OK.
Her sin is not that she made a rap Video in Mecca, her sin is that she has a black skin!
Is the Ummah not lovely towards their Blacks
These are descendants of slaves.
We have the same people in Pak too.
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The first group of Africans to settle in the Indus Valley occurred after 712 AD, and were reportedly soldiers fighting in Muhammad bin Qasim’s army during the battle and victory over Raja Dahir. These African soldiers were referred to as Zanjis as they mainly originated from Zanj (Swahili coast of east Africa). They eventually settled throughout Sindh and assimilated into Sindhi culture over the successive generations.
The second group of Africans were forcibly brought to Sindh, Makran and the Delhi Sultanate beginning as early as ~1200 AD and later to the Mughul Empire after ~1500 AD. These people descend from the Bantu peoples in the African Great Lakes region, which today includes Burundi, Congo, Kenya, Rwanda, Tanzania (in particular Zanzibar) and Uganda and are called Sheedi. They were captured by slave traders throughout the 16th century and then sold in cumulatively large numbers throughout the Persian Gulf and Arabian Sea.
The third group of Africans migrated to Karachi during British rule, beginning as early as 1842. Most of them were either clerks working for the colony administration or were wealthy businessmen who arrived from other British colonies in Africa such as Kenya, Tanzania, Zimbabwe and South Africa. Many of them subsequently left after British rule ended in 1947.
The fourth group of Africans migrated from Somalia as refugees, beginning as early as 1990. Somali refugees in Pakistan maintain a separate identity and culture from Sheedis, but are viewed part of the larger Afro-Pakistani community. Somalis are estimated between 5000 to 10,000 and are the third largest group of refugees in Pakistan, after Afghans and Rohingya.
But in Iran, Slavery existed till 1928.... indian ocean slave trade.
The historic stuff you post dont show africans.
Kashmiris are our people, dozens of millions of Pakistanis are Kashmiris. Thus our care for them in natural.
Would you not go the same for your "lurs" ?
She isnt even Saudi but ethiopian or sudanese. Go read the article.
Yes,there were African slaves but the first Iranians were as black as the Original Israelites I posted here:https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/one-...e-identity-of-the-original-isrealites.644157/
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All of the first Middle Easterners from the beginning to the Early Iron Age;the Elamites,Assyrians,Isrealites and Egyptians were the same people. As far as China its been admitted recently by Prof Sun Weidong the first Xia dynasty originated from the Nile 5000 years ago.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/0...l-debate-at-heart-of-china-national-identity/
"Of the 200 or so items of bronze ware he was responsible for analyzing, some came from the city of Yin. He found that the radioactivity of these Yin-Shang bronzes had almost exactly the same characteristics as that of ancient Egyptian bronzes, suggesting that their ores all came from the same source: African mines."
Its a very interesting read! You mentioned the Indus Valley who were Tamil. Fyi,the Bantu Cameroonian Bassa language formed the Tamil language THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.
Cultivated cotton which came from West Africa appear at Mohenjo-Daro and harrapa from 2300-1700 BC,Win.Agri. There are many many other unmistakable African influences. I had posted on this 3 years ago where someone said a certain Australian aboriginal language was even closer to Tamil than Bassa .
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/tamil-language-origins-anyone.536307/
You “black washing” our histories yet?Yes,there were African slaves but the first Iranians were as black as the Original Israelites I posted here:https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/one-...e-identity-of-the-original-isrealites.644157/
View attachment 613690
All of the first Middle Easterners from the beginning to the Early Iron Age;the Elamites,Assyrians,Isrealites and Egyptians were the same people. As far as China its been admitted recently by Prof Sun Weidong the first Xia dynasty originated from the Nile 5000 years ago.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/0...l-debate-at-heart-of-china-national-identity/
"Of the 200 or so items of bronze ware he was responsible for analyzing, some came from the city of Yin. He found that the radioactivity of these Yin-Shang bronzes had almost exactly the same characteristics as that of ancient Egyptian bronzes, suggesting that their ores all came from the same source: African mines."
Its a very interesting read! You mentioned the Indus Valley who were Tamil. Fyi,the Bantu Cameroonian Bassa language formed the Tamil language THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.
Cultivated cotton which came from West Africa appear at Mohenjo-Daro and harrapa from 2300-1700 BC,Win.Agri. There are many many other unmistakable African influences. I had posted on this 3 years ago where someone said a certain Australian aboriginal language was even closer to Tamil than Bassa .
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/tamil-language-origins-anyone.536307/
All this a joke man?
You “black washing” our histories yet?
Another africentricism? Much like white washing by Europeans.
These are descendants of slaves.
We have the same people in Pak too.
View attachment 613372
The first group of Africans to settle in the Indus Valley occurred after 712 AD, and were reportedly soldiers fighting in Muhammad bin Qasim’s army during the battle and victory over Raja Dahir. These African soldiers were referred to as Zanjis as they mainly originated from Zanj (Swahili coast of east Africa). They eventually settled throughout Sindh and assimilated into Sindhi culture over the successive generations.
The second group of Africans were forcibly brought to Sindh, Makran and the Delhi Sultanate beginning as early as ~1200 AD and later to the Mughul Empire after ~1500 AD. These people descend from the Bantu peoples in the African Great Lakes region, which today includes Burundi, Congo, Kenya, Rwanda, Tanzania (in particular Zanzibar) and Uganda and are called Sheedi. They were captured by slave traders throughout the 16th century and then sold in cumulatively large numbers throughout the Persian Gulf and Arabian Sea.
The third group of Africans migrated to Karachi during British rule, beginning as early as 1842. Most of them were either clerks working for the colony administration or were wealthy businessmen who arrived from other British colonies in Africa such as Kenya, Tanzania, Zimbabwe and South Africa. Many of them subsequently left after British rule ended in 1947.
The fourth group of Africans migrated from Somalia as refugees, beginning as early as 1990. Somali refugees in Pakistan maintain a separate identity and culture from Sheedis, but are viewed part of the larger Afro-Pakistani community. Somalis are estimated between 5000 to 10,000 and are the third largest group of refugees in Pakistan, after Afghans and Rohingya.
But in Iran, Slavery existed till 1928.... indian ocean slave trade.
The historic stuff you post dont show africans.
Kashmiris are our people, dozens of millions of Pakistanis are Kashmiris. Thus our care for them in natural.
Would you not go the same for your "lurs" ?
She isnt even Saudi but ethiopian or sudanese. Go read the article.
I have no idea, probably around less than 200K.How many African you have in Pakistan bro ? They are very good at sport. We also have 1 mix African blood basketball player. He is still 16 years old with 2.03 meters high and played in our U 17 national team. His present made us won the regional competition for the first time after 20 years without a winning trophy.
This is how he plays in U 16 and U 17 High School competition
Listen asshole, I replied politely amd expect the same.Errr,no. Son,the truth is neutral and this world isn't the way you think! You see historical methods can be understood even by laymen. Morphological affinities ie,limb measurements,craniofacial/dental metrics/DNA studies tell the truth which is paramount-NOT OPINION! Fyi,this has BEEN DONE WITH THE FIRST IRANIANS,THE ELAMITES LONG AGO.
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"Marcel Dieulafoy and M. de Quatrefages observed that the craniometrics of the ancient Elamites of Susa indicate that they were Sub-Saharan Africans or Negroes"
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13901/13901-h/13901-h.htm
"Ancient Sub-Saharan African skeletons have also been found in Mesopotamia (Tomczyk et al, 2010). The craniometric data indicates that continuity existed between ancient and medieval Sub-Saharan Africans in Mesopotamia."
Ricault & Waelkens,2008
Here are linguistic parallels between Manding,a W African language/Tamil and Sumerian.
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Adding up all these pieces and the reality is unavoidable.
Errr,no. Son,the truth is neutral and this world isn't the way you think! You see historical methods can be understood even by laymen. Morphological affinities ie,limb measurements,craniofacial/dental metrics/DNA studies tell the truth which is paramount-NOT OPINION! Fyi,this has BEEN DONE WITH THE FIRST IRANIANS,THE ELAMITES LONG AGO.
View attachment 613736
"Marcel Dieulafoy and M. de Quatrefages observed that the craniometrics of the ancient Elamites of Susa indicate that they were Sub-Saharan Africans or Negroes"
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13901/13901-h/13901-h.htm
"Ancient Sub-Saharan African skeletons have also been found in Mesopotamia (Tomczyk et al, 2010). The craniometric data indicates that continuity existed between ancient and medieval Sub-Saharan Africans in Mesopotamia."
Ricault & Waelkens,2008
Here are linguistic parallels between Manding,a W African language/Tamil and Sumerian.
View attachment 613744
View attachment 613745
View attachment 613746
View attachment 613747
Adding up all these pieces and the reality is unavoidable.
Yes. We be Muslims. Now the truth. Look below.Would Pakistanis care about Kashmir if Kashmiris were Black???
How many African you have in Pakistan bro ? They are very good at sport. We also have 1 mix African blood basketball player. He is still 16 years old with 2.03 meters high and played in our U 17 national team. His present made us won the regional competition for the first time after 20 years without a winning trophy.
This is how he plays in U 16 and U 17 High School competition
I have no idea, probably around less than 200K.
But yeah you are right:
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A Rangers Boxing champion.
Listen asshole, I replied politely amd expect the same.
And im not interested in your BS “we was kangz” nonsense.
We are not white nor do we have some sort of guilt so dont expect us to believe or tolerate BS bout everything being black related. While Africa itself never had civilisations like Indus or Egypt (Egyptians being black lol, Nubians yes, but not egyptians).
Afrocentrics are a joke.
Im not tamil, nor do i care.
But your solely claiming south indians are your people based on skin & some words?
Tamil also has much more in common with korean.
Doesnt mean they are korean:
Now dont start claiming korean heritage too.
Is he Papuan? Irony of ironies if that's the case:I've seen what your army does to the Irian Jaya inhabitants.
Kashmiris are dark tooWould Pakistanis care about Kashmir if Kashmiris were Black???
Newsflash! There've been Black Iranians from the beginning-as an Iranian you should know this.
Kashmiris are our people, dozens of millions of Pakistanis are Kashmiris. Thus our care for them in natural.
Would you not go the same for your "lurs" ?
She isnt even Saudi but ethiopian or sudanese. Go read the article.
Yes. We be Muslims. Now the truth. Look below.
98% No.
Kashmiris are dark too
It doesn't matter how long Blacks lived in Iran, 100 years, 1000 years, million years, totally irrelevant! The only thing that matters is how they were treated and far more important, how they are treated! And the very fact that the Iranian speaker of parlament called the American president a kaka-zia (nigga!), the very fact that such a derogatory term for Blacks even exists in the persian language speaks volumes!
This is not an answer to my question.
Pakistan was created as home to Muslims from the Indian sub-continent, and Pakistanis want to include Kashmiris into this home.
My question: If 10 million Black African Muslims lived in Kashmir and nobody else, would Pakistanis still be eager to include Kashmir into Pakistan, or would your Muslim love stop here because you don't want to have this disgusting black animals in your country even if this animals were Muslims?
So?
Yes. Many Pakistanis are darker than Black Africans, but still Pakistanis have a fanatical hatred for Black Africans, even if they are Muslims, and even though Pakistanis normally speak day and night about Ummah Ummah Ummah, they don't have any Ummah love for Black African Muslims!!!
Thats amazing considering how much you hate your own countrymen of indian origins and whatnot.Yes. We be Muslims. Now the truth. Look below.
98% No.
many middle easterners are dark like north indians but they think they are white?? whyIt doesn't matter how long Blacks lived in Iran, 100 years, 1000 years, million years, totally irrelevant! The only thing that matters is how they were treated and far more important, how they are treated! And the very fact that the Iranian speaker of parlament called the American president a kaka-zia (nigga!), the very fact that such a derogatory term for Blacks even exists in the persian language speaks volumes!
This is not an answer to my question.
Pakistan was created as home to Muslims from the Indian sub-continent, and Pakistanis want to include Kashmiris into this home.
My question: If 10 million Black African Muslims lived in Kashmir and nobody else, would Pakistanis still be eager to include Kashmir into Pakistan, or would your Muslim love stop here because you don't want to have this disgusting black animals in your country even if this animals were Muslims?
So?
Correct
Yes. Many Pakistanis are darker than Black Africans, but still Pakistanis have a fanatical hatred for Black Africans, even if they are Muslims, and even though Pakistanis normally speak day and night about Ummah Ummah Ummah, they don't have any Ummah love for Black African Muslims!!!