Muslim Indians Should Demand A Seperate Nation:--

[nForce]

We don't need nukes Shiv Sena will destroy India . First through a Religious war which will become into civil war. And then turn into a massive FREEDOM MOVEMENT.

Aww...ain't that cute ? They are blowing up inside mosques in Pakistan, and the religious war is going to happen in India ? Try your hands at writing fantasy novels.

 

[Rajesh12379]

Are you seriously implying that Pakistanis look like indians and that Pakistanis are the same race as you people? Please just give a yes or no answer. By the way according to genetics, dolphins and humans share 90% dna, indians and Russian share common genetics and West Africans share common dna with Germans and Scandanavians.

As I said, I don't really care. We are two separate people now, irrespective of whether there was any shared past or not.

Now, purely on a factual basis, the North Indians are racially the same with the majority of Pakistanis (except the kabailis).

As far as I am concerned, it changes nothing. People may have different features even when they belong to the same racial group, enough for them to be told apart.

Now here is something you may want to look at:

Caste in Pakistan: The Elephant in the Room | Red Diary

A pregnant woman from a remote rural village in Tharparkar goes to a private hospital in Hyderabad. The medical staff refuse to attend to her, saying they do not want to pollute their instruments and dirty their hands. Feeling humiliated and angry, she returns to her village without having received the services she needed.

A 20 year old woman from Peshawar is brutally murdered by her brothers and father for attempting to marry outside the biradari and bringing shame to the family honour.

A young Kolhi girl is abducted while working in the cotton fields of a landlord outside Mirpurkhas. She is forced to convert to Islam and marry her abductor. The police refuse to register a case and her family is advised to remain silent for the sake of their own safety.

In a village in Southern Punjab, a young boy from a “lower-caste” is accused of dishonouring the “high caste” tribe by having an affair with one of their women. The village panchayat orders the gang rape of the boy’s sister by the “high caste’ men so that they may restore the honour of their tribe.

Anyway, this is a tangent. We both agree that Indians and Paksitanis have nothing to do with each other and we should keep it that way. That includes forgoing the kind of obsession that this thread implies.

Pakistan should be part of the "international Muslim mainstream" (whatever that is) and not worry about India. That can start by not having an Indian language (that is not from any province of Pakistan) as their national language?

 

[Arsalan mehmud]

There is nothing to be amazed here....

Indian is a secular democracy every person in this country has his own right to criticize anyone be it Mahatma Gandhi, Mohammed Ali Jenna or Prophet Mohammed....This country has given its people right of expression, right to criticize....Sometimes fringe elements do takeover for some time but then all will be normalized and this nation will go to the place where it was....

By the way I don't like violence I believe in Ashimsa....



You are still missing the point here....that is because you might be too young to understand how a real democracy works or may be being too much under army rule not being able to taste the fruits of democracy ....

Shiv Sena might be a fringe right wing group....but India is a country where they to can expressed what their ideology is....

Before criticizing about Shiv Sena and Bal Thakerey....I want you to take a notice of Asaduddin Owaisi and his party All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen....And I would also ask you to watch the rallies where Asaduddin Owaisi's brother speaks....He speaks about killing Hindus in Muslim rallies in a Hindu majority country how can he do that because India is a democracy....Even these people have the right to express their ideology....

Hope you understood....

Akbaruddin owaisi was taken into custody....legal proceeding was taken against him... what action was taken against Bal Thakerey..

what action was taken against them...
You are trying to confused me with the term "democracy"
Does democracy means action to be taken against minority only for hate speech..
I can post you hundreds of such speeches and no action was taken...

That demand was met long back in 1947, there is no further installment on offer.



Do you really think that we are responsible for your explosive rise in population?
And btw, India's population is 1.2+ billion.

Don't worry we would help muslims indians to take their chunk from india and that would be larger.. you too interfere in east pakistan.. time to repay your debt...

 

[Grevion]

You are living in wrong paradise....Minorities in india are living in hell... Here is narration given by your crooked terrorist...

The video you are posting is of a Hindu hardliner speaking about a Muslim hardliner.
I can post thousands of videos of Pakistani terrorists and extremists spreading hate against your Pakistani minorities but none of the Pakistani minorities can even think of doing that.

You see we in India have the freedom to allow hardliner from every religion and faith to express their view in peaceful manner and we don't kill them just because they don't agree with our beliefs as you do in Pakistan.

 

[Assange]

Akbaruddin owaisi was taken into custody....legal proceeding was taken against him... what action was taken against Bal Thakerey..

what action was taken against them...
You are trying to confused me with the term "democracy"
Does democracy means action to be taken against minority only for hate speech..
I can post you hundreds of such speeches and no action was taken...



Don't worry we would help muslims indians to take their chunk from india and that would be larger.. you too interfere in east pakistan.. time to repay your debt...

Since you are speaking like you live in India tell me what kind of actions has been taken against Akbaruddin owaisi??? Did he serve any jail term for his hate speeches???

The answer would be no...

There will case filed against these people and no actions will be taken against them...

This happened same against Bal Thakerey and Praveen Togadia...

In Praveen's case most Indian states barred him from entering those states because of his anti-Muslim speeches...May be you can find that on the internet and the legal actions against him....

By the way speaking about splitting about India and giving Indian Muslim a new nation...I would say keep dreaming and don't forget how many people were slaughtered in 1947 while partition do you want that to happen again???

 

[Arsalan mehmud]

The video you are posting is of a Hindu hardliner speaking about a Muslim hardliner.
I can post thousands of videos of Pakistani terrorists and extremists spreading hate against your Pakistani minorities but none of the Pakistani minorities can even think of doing that.

You see we in India have the freedom to allow hardliner from every religion and faith to express their view in peaceful manner and we don't kill them just because they don't agree with our beliefs as you do in Pakistan.

Please post me some video... here pravin togadia is accepting that in riots they killed all muslims in thousands with the help of police and government... if such type of incident happened than definitely we do help them and that is for sure i bet...

 

[Knight Rider]

Aww...ain't that cute ? They are blowing up inside mosques in Pakistan, and the religious war is going to happen in India ? Try your hands at writing fantasy novels.

This will happen , your police killed a kid for just stealing a pigeon. Did the poor child deserve to be killed on stealing pigeon ?

 

[Arsalan mehmud]

Since you are speaking like you live in India tell me what kind of actions has been taken against Akbaruddin owaisi??? Did he serve any jail term for his hate speeches???

The answer would be no...

There will case filed against these people and no actions will be taken against them...

This happened same against Bal Thakerey and Praveen Togadia...

In Praveen's case most Indian states barred him from entering those states because of his anti-Muslim speeches...May be you can find that on the internet and the legal actions against him....

By the way speaking about splitting about India and giving Indian Muslim a new nation...I would say keep dreaming and don't forget how many people were slaughtered in 1947 while partition do you want that to happen again???

Dreaming is first step to achieve success...

No not at all...I too against violence... but this person is talking about the incident already happened..about killings of people and after research of all the incident I can say he is true about the massacre of muslims with the help of police and government... so such kind of incident definitely provoke all the muslims globally.. you can't hold them to remain in main stream with such incidents... one day or other they will revolt and will take their chunk....
If you are hanging Yakub menon than hang the other side culprit too... categorise them too as terrorist... forget about bal thakerey not a single person from other side was putted behind bar...

Govt and police involvement proof

 

[Jackdaws]

Since Pakistan was created as a separate homeland for Indian Muslims - shouldn't Pakistan open it borders and offer refuge to those Muslims in India who face persecution? Why the crocodile tears? Put your money where your mouth is.

 

[Knight Rider]

Since Pakistan was created as a separate homeland for Indian Muslims - shouldn't Pakistan open it borders and offer refuge to those Muslims in India who face persecution? Why the crocodile tears? Put your money where your mouth is.

Sir!!! You betray your own Muslims and Sikhs.

 

[Shinigami]

Since Pakistan was created as a separate homeland for Indian Muslims - shouldn't Pakistan open it borders and offer refuge to those Muslims in India who face persecution? Why the crocodile tears? Put your money where your mouth is.

they wont. as bad as things are in india, condition of muslims in pakistan are much worse

 

[nForce]

This will happen , your police killed a kid for just stealing a pigeon. Did the poor child deserve to be killed on stealing pigeon ?

Are you sure similar or worse things don't happen in the rest of the World in general, and Pakistan in particular ? Probably an year back or may be a little more, one news in Pakistan hit the headlines all over the World. There the rangers shot dead a kid on open street because he was accused of being a thief. Later such activities became so common, that they don't make it to the headlines any more. Are you sure you are aware of what's going on around you ?

 

[Jackdaws]

they wont. as bad as things are in india, condition of muslims in pakistan are much worse

I know. Hence the question. It would kind of reveal a hole in their entire "Muslims are persecuted" theory. Muslims in India face prejudice and face discrimination - but there is a yawning gap between discrimination and persecution. If a minority faces persecution they gravitate toward a safer state and this results in a refugee crisis. Currently this is happening in Europe. It is happening with the Rohingya Muslims. It has happened with the Tamils in Lanka; it has happened with the erstwhile East Pakistanis. It also happened with Sikhs in India.

Sir!!! You betray your own Muslims and Sikhs.

No, I don't. In fact I support them. If a minority faces persecution - it will automatically look at migrating. If you think they face persecution - open your doors to them. Let's see how many consider Pak to be a safe haven.

 

[Assange]

Dreaming is first step to achieve success...

No not at all...I too against violence... but this person is talking about the incident already happened..about killings of people and after research of all the incident I can say he is true about the massacre of muslims with the help of police and government... so such kind of incident definitely provoke all the muslims globally.. you can't hold them to remain in main stream with such incidents... one day or other they will revolt and will take their chunk....
If you are hanging Yakub menon than hang the other side culprit too... categorise them too as terrorist... forget about bal thakerey not a single person from other side was putted behind bar...

Govt and police involvement proof

Sorry to disappoint you bro...but you are going to stuck in your dreams forever it seems....

Even before Indian Muslims revolt against Indian government it seems Pakistan might split into pieces....You are so worried about Indians being abused in India....Concentrate on your country mate....Your country is in disarray right now...only thing that is holding your country together is your army and foreign aids for your army....

Also about Yakub Menon's hanging is something he deserved....He confessed of involving in a bombing incident in India he deserved it....and speaking about people from the other side do you remember Colonel Purohit I would like you to read through that case entirely and you can find how many of Hindu right wing terrorists are behind bars....This is just one incident...I would like you to first google things before posting it here...please because it seems most of the issues that you are posting here are relevant facts but you don't know what the end result was...

And also about provoking about Muslims globally man Muslims are already provoked globally....99.99% conflict zone is in Muslim world or caused by Muslims....No wonder why people think Islam preaches terrorism and hatred Sorry but this is what people think about Islam in non-Islamic countries mostly...

 

[Mitro]

The Indian Muslim are restraining and showing patience and want Hindus to demand their country this time so we Muslim can give them safe passage to Nepal they will be safe their in their Hindu republic .lol

No more partition in India we will live in peace and prosperity we don't want to divide any more we are one nation .

In house hold brother do fight but still manage to live together .