Muslim Indians Should Demand A Seperate Nation:--

[haviZsultan]

Best solution for such muslims - GOT to PAKISTAN and become Muhazir

Thats what we did. Thanks for your advise. But with this kind of attitude when you oppress my Lucknowi people-from where I am and we work to make Lucknow independent or merge it with Pakistan don't cry foul. There are genuine reasons for our grievances.

 

[K.P.K]

Thats what we did. Thanks for your advise. But with this kind of attitude when you oppress my Lucknowi people-from where I am and we work to make Lucknow independent or merge it with Pakistan don't cry foul. There are genuine reasons for our grievances.

Please don't merge it with Pakistan, we Pakistanis are ethnically and culturally different to them, they can have their own little state but we don't want mergers.

 

[haviZsultan]

Please don't merge it with Pakistan, we Pakistanis are ethnically and culturally different to them, they can have their own little state but we don't want mergers.

Whats wrong with a little bit of expansion? Eh. You're going to abandon the chance for Pakistan to become a super power and larger just because these people are "different from us"??

The muhajirs or migrants are the same thing as the muslims there. Lucknow should go to Pakistanis. We all came from there sometime and are now staunchly Pakistani.

 

[nForce]

Whats wrong with a little bit of expansion? Eh. You're going to abandon the chance for Pakistan to become a super power and larger just because these people are "different from us"??

The muhajirs or migrants are the same thing as the muslims there. Lucknow should go to Pakistanis. We all came from there sometime and are now staunchly Pakistani.

Sir.. aap jab tak ho iss forum mein tab tak mai hoon..Aapke ke bina maza nhi aayega.. I come to this forum less frequently than what I used to. But whenever I do, I always look for that post which inevitably has the word 'Lucknow'. You are my lucky charm. Score!

 

[K.P.K]

Whats wrong with a little bit of expansion? Eh. You're going to abandon the chance for Pakistan to become a super power and larger just because these people are "different from us"??

The muhajirs or migrants are the same thing as the muslims there. Lucknow should go to Pakistanis. We all came from there sometime and are now staunchly Pakistani.

No we don't want expansion eastward we rather have expansion westward with people who we share most with.

Migrants were forced upon us and they never really fitted in to the jigsaw puzzle, as even now they refer to themselves as migrants and detach themselves from
Majority, those who have come we accept with open arms but we don't want more as we would like to keep the nativeness of this land as much as possible.

Indian Muslims can do what they wish they are no concern of ours.

 

[haviZsultan]

No we don't want expansion eastward we rather have expansion westward with people who we share most with.

Migrants were forced upon us and they never really fitted in to the jigsaw puzzle, as even now they refer to themselves as migrants and detach themselves from
Majority, those who have come we accept with open arms but we don't want more as we would like to keep the nativeness of this land as much as possible.

Indian Muslims can do what they wish they are no concern of ours.

Many migrants are trying to merge as pashtun or reclaiming their original identity. Talo pashto razi? Pashto pwe shwi? The batch that actually call themselves muhajirs and wrongly so came in 47. Their children grew even more arrogant than them and started asking for extra rights increasingly weakening the bond shared between Pakistanis as a result.

Our idiocy led us to create a militant organization known as MQM. People who move from one place to another do not become muhajir. For example pashtuns moved to karachi from KPK, Punjabis moved to Darra Adamkhel as weapon producers and Sindhis move to Islamabad. Are they muhajirs? So we were idiots to abandon our original, in my case Lucknowi identity and working to free our regions from India. If we maintained this identity we could also have convinced our relatives left in Lucknow to follow a pro Pakistani path. This is all our fault but some of us vouching to bring our regions under Pakistani control is perfectly justificable.

Also for example I have little and even those unproven links to pashtuns. My ancestor may have been Pir Roshan. So a lot of muhajirs have pashtun links too but since we did not know pashto they became muhajir though their original identity was pashtun. Anyway my point is we shouldn't look to new migrants as a problem but as an asset that can strenghthen Pakistan. I have no belief in the MQM terrorist party along with many other migrants who came later.

I think this mindset will be a problem in the path of Pakistan becoming a superpower. Try to think inclusively. You aren't samandri are you or all my words may be falling on deaf ears...

 

[K.P.K]

Many migrants are trying to merge as pashtun or reclaiming their original identity. Talo pashto razi? Pashto pwe shwi? The batch that actually call themselves muhajirs and wrongly so came in 47. Their children grew even more arrogant than them and started asking for extra rights increasingly weakening the bond shared between Pakistanis as a result.

Our idiocy led us to create a militant organization known as MQM. People who move from one place to another do not become muhajir. For example pashtuns moved to karachi from KPK, Punjabis moved to Darra Adamkhel as weapon producers and Sindhis move to Islamabad. Are they muhajirs? So we were idiots to abandon our original, in my case Lucknowi identity and working to free our regions from India. If we maintained this identity we could also have convinced our relatives left in Lucknow to follow a pro Pakistani path. This is all our fault but some of us vouching to bring our regions under Pakistani control is perfectly justificable.

Also for example I have little and even those unproven links to pashtuns. My ancestor may have been Pir Roshan. So a lot of muhajirs have pashtun links too but since we did not know pashto they became muhajir though their original identity was pashtun. Anyway my point is we shouldn't look to new migrants as a problem but as an asset that can strenghthen Pakistan. I have no belief in the MQM terrorist party along with many other migrants who came later.

I think this mindset will be a problem in the path of Pakistan becoming a superpower. Try to think inclusively. You aren't samandri are you or all my words may be falling on deaf ears...

Only migrants who arrived this country feel connection with Indian Muslims, Sindhis can't be migrants in Islamabad or peshawar or elsewhere in Pakistan as they hail from this land, nor can pukhtoons, Baluchs or Punjabis as they are son of the soil.

We don't need more migrants and especially from the east, a pukhtoons is he whose mother and father are pukhtoons and they speak pushto, now migrants in Karachi hardly look pukhtoon or like any other Pakistani ethnicity, so how their claim of ancestry from here is beyond me.

I am not samandari am just a Pakistani nothing more nothing less.

 

[jamahir]

Why is it so?

what do you think??

Best solution for such muslims - GOT to PAKISTAN and become Muhazir

rahul ji, do you "work" in the software coolie company, tcs??

and do you think the bangalore software coolie industry will exist until 2050??

just guessing from your user-name.

 

[MastanKhan]

Over 40 pages should be "salvation" might be enough for the OP, the fire lit and burning brightly.

Hi,

So---what does that mean! Unless it does not take flight----it does not mean much.

 

[VCheng]

Hi,

So---what does that mean! Unless it does not take flight----it does not mean much.

Do you seriously expect it to take flight, Sir?

 

[MastanKhan]

Do you seriously expect it to take flight, Sir?

Hi,

Why not----is there a reason that it should not----. Somebody somewhere else might do something similar that takes off-----.

 

[Albatross]

Well the only sensible thing to do by Indian muslims .I know it will lead to lots of blood shed at the hand of Hindu terrorists but atleast their coming generations will have their own land and peace of mind.

 

[VCheng]

Hi,

Why not----is there a reason that it should not----. Somebody somewhere else might do something similar that takes off-----.

All I will say here Sir is that it will take a bit more than a troll thread on PDF for Muslims in India to carve out yet another enclave based on thier religion. Quite a bite more, in fact.

 

[illusion8]

All I will say here Sir is that it will take a bit more than a troll thread on PDF for Muslims in India to carve out yet another enclave based on thier religion. Quite a bite more, in fact.

There's no way until the day there is the whole defense force of India and the people of India will there be another partition. .muslims got it because of the brits...there's no other force that would create another partition, kashmir valley sunni have realised that over the decades .and it was a blessing for India too. A substantial muslim population would have created numerous issues for the non muslims of India...and whatever state pakistan is presently with its extremism and porous borders and flow of jihadis and a dominating army.would have been unmanageable for the combined Indian state.

 

[haviZsultan]

Only migrants who arrived this country feel connection with Indian Muslims, Sindhis can't be migrants in Islamabad or peshawar or elsewhere in Pakistan as they hail from this land, nor can pukhtoons, Baluchs or Punjabis as they are son of the soil.

We don't need more migrants and especially from the east, a pukhtoons is he whose mother and father are pukhtoons and they speak pushto, now migrants in Karachi hardly look pukhtoon or like any other Pakistani ethnicity, so how their claim of ancestry from here is beyond me.

I am not samandari am just a Pakistani nothing more nothing less.

So you do believe that Pakistan and Afghanistan should be merged? Lar aw bar yaw pashtun? Kha? Now whats the problem if we apply the same thing to others. Pakistan is on the verge of growing larger and we will continue thinking of our ethnic problems and the numbers of muhajirs increasing. Its a wrong thing to focus on. If we can convince the muslim relatives we have of the benefits of breaking off from India or forming a union with Pakistan who wins?

Anyway you are probably right in another way. We migrants have done so much damage to Pakistan by forming mafia like MQM what will we do when we are in higher numbers. I apologize for any bad or wrong muhajirs may have done to Pakistan and Pashtuns. But we all need to abandon our ethnic thinking and form an ideal society. Peace be to you brother. I have much respect for pashtuns and want to be like you-patriotic, proud, helpful. You know. Nice to meet you sir.

Also do note you got somethings wrong. I was blaming us for adopting muhajir identity not claiming others were all muhajir too.