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[Proudpakistaniguy]

And you seem like a 7 year old, there are so many mistakes in your English and please don't cross your limits and know who you are, don't speak fluent shits in the internet that you cannot say in person, unwanted aur unnecessarily bullshit mat phelaao, ayese utter nonsense phailana farigh logon ke kaam hotay hein, jo topic hai sirf us pe baat kro.

Hahah very funny that you are teaching me English when you cannot write a simple argument in English. Stop expecting some special treatment when you are acting so rude and arrogant. Correct yourself before correcting others and if you have no tolerance to hear different opinion then simply dont involve in discussion

Allah did not say that Hijab reflect in your attitude, behaviour personality or action etc Allah only said to cover our hair and we Muslims are obliged to follow the commands of Allaah.

"It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allaah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision” [al-Ahzaab 33:36]

You are hardly making any sense from Islamic point of view. Purpose of Hijab in Islam is much more than just covering your head and face. Veil/Hijab would serve no purpose if Hijabi is still involving in others immoral stuffs/activities after wearing hijab i.e wear veil and then go and watch romantic movie and drama on TV where guys and girls are flirting with each others . Wear veil and then go listen some romantic love songs etc wear veil and then check out random guys on street behind the veil , wear veil and then can go for dating etc

Read this article " Hijab is not a piece of cloth on your head "

Hijab is not a piece of cloth on your head. It’s a way of life.

Just because some of the sisters have their head covered, they think that the requirement of Hijaab is fulfilled. They don’t realize that wearing a Hijaab requires much more than just covering your head.

Actually, if you think about it, Hijaab is the way you talk…..the way you walk….the very way you carry yourself. In fact, Hijaab is an attitude in itself. Its a whole way of life.
Allaah says:

“And say to the believing women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their beauty (zeenah) except what is apparent of it, and to extend their headcoverings (khimars) to cover their bosoms (jaybs), and not to display their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband’s fathers, or their sons, or their husband’s sons, or their brothers, or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule (slaves), or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or the small children to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments. And turn in repentance to Allah together, O you believers, in order that you are successful.” (Surat-un-Nur: 31).

Here are some of the more common issues in light of this verse about the Hijaab.

Well, my head is covered. What more do you want?

If you look carefully at the ayah, it clearly states that the head covers (khumur) should be drawn over the neck slits (juyoob). Khumur is the plural of the Arabic word “khimar” which means a headcover. Juyoob is the plural of the Arabic word “jaiyb”, which refers to the neck slit (of the dress).
Yet, some sisters just cover their head with something, and think they are fulfilling the rights of Hijaab, although part of their hair or body is showing, or their whole neck and chest area are exposed. Actually, that was the way of the women of Jahilliyah.
Al-Qurtubi said: “Women in those days used to cover their heads with the khimar, throwing its ends upon their backs. This left the neck and the upper part of the chest bare, along with the ears. Then Allah commanded them to cover those parts with the khimar.”
So secure the scarf well around your face, covering your neck/chest area, and keep those half sleeves and capri pants for your Mahrams

Sorry.…tight jeans and short shirt just don’t cut it

You can’t wear tight jeans and a short shirt with a piece of cloth on your head and think this is Hijaab. Nor can you wear anything else that is tight, describing the shape of the body in any way, even if it is long. The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said:

“In later (generations) of my ummah there will be women who will be dressed but naked. On top of their heads (what looks) like camel humps. They will not enter into paradise or (even) get a smell of it.” (Muslim)

If it is see-through, its NOT Hijaab

You CANNOT use chiffon or other see through material to cover your hair and body. Everything should be covered and the color of the skin underneath should not be visible.
The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) once received a thick garment as a gift. He gave it to Osamah b. Zayd, who in turn gave it to his wife. When asked by the Prophet why he did not wear it, Osamah indicated that he gave it to his wife.

The Prophet then said to Osamah “ask her to use a “gholalah” under it (the garment) for I fear that it (the garment) may describe the size of her bones.” (Ahmad, Abi-Dawood)

(The word gholalah in Arabic means a thick fabric worn under the dress to prevent it from describing the shape of the body).

The Hijaab shouldn’t attract attention

The dress should not be such that it attracts men’s attention to the woman’s beauty. Allaah clearly states “not to display their beauty (zeenah).” Yet, Subhaan Allaah, some Hijaabi sisters are dressed in such a way that they attract more attention to themselves than they would if they didn’t wear Hijaab!! How could such zeenah be concealed if the dress is designed in a way that it attracts men’s eyes to the woman? It beats the purpose of Hijaab.
Allaah tells us:

“And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance…” [al-Ahzaab:32]

What about make-up and perfume???

Wearing make up is also part of the zeenah that Allaah orders us NOT to display. So if your head and body are appropriately covered yet you are wearing bright red lipstick or dark eyeliner such that people confuse between you and a raccoon….uh sorry, that’s not Hijaab. And keep those nice fragrances for the home, between you and your husband. That’s part of Hijaab too, even if you are going to the Masjid. The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said:

“Any woman who puts on perfume and passes by people so that they can smell her fragrance, is an adulteress.” (al-Nasaa’i, Tirmidhi: hasan by Albaani)

Tinkling Jewelry and Jingling bracelets

‘Loud’ and tinkling anything, be it jewelry, bracelets, clip-clopping shoes, little bells on clothes, you name it, if it jingles or makes noise, it is against the principles of Hijaab, because it attracts attention to the one wearing it. That is what is meant when Allaah orders us in the above verse…“not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments.”

No laughing, joking, or hanging out with non-Mahrams

Some sisters assume that since they are properly covered, its okay for them to sit around and talk, laugh, joke, etc. with the men, but that’s not right, even if he is ‘the Shaikh’.

Allaah says:”. . . then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honorable manner.” [al-Ahzaab:32]

So talk to them when there is a specific need, and in a manner that is not necessarily rude, yet it is polite but firm.

Staring at the brothers or ‘checking them out’ is NOT Hijaab

Allaah orders us to “lower your gaze” in the above verse. Why? Because a single ‘look’ can say more than a thousand words. So, even if you are properly covered, keep those eyes down, conduct yourself with ‘Hayaa’, and avoid ‘fitnah’.

‘Chatting’ on the internet/phone is not part of Hijaab, either

There is no such thing as “we’re just friends”. Talking to non-Mahrams is wrong even if it is through the internet or telephone. There are too many stories of illegal relationships, fornications, broken homes, extra-marital affairs and runaway brides to even mention. That is why in Islam anything that leads to haraam is also haraam. Allaah says:

“Do not (even) come close to fornication, for it is an indecency, and its way is evil.” (Surah Israa:32)

Be careful, even in the way you walk

Remember, you are not a runway model displaying the latest fashion. Walk with modesty and hayaa and you will be respected. The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said:

“There are two types of the people of Hell that I have not seen yet….women who are clothed yet naked, walking with an enticing gait…..” (Muslim).

Don’t shake hands with non-Mahrams. Its part of Hijaab

It is not permissible to shake hands with a non-Mahram, because the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said:

“For one of you to be stabbed in the head with an iron needle is better for him than to touch a woman who is not permissible for him.” (at-Tabaraani saheeh by al-Albaani).

And no, it is not rude to refuse to shake hands with non-Muslims. Simply politely explain that its part of your religion and they are very understanding.

Stay away from the men’s areas

I see many sisters entering the Masjid from the men’s entrance, or standing idle in the hallways or where there is a chance of unnecessary mixing with the brothers. What for?
Don’t we have a separate entrance for ourselves? Why do you think Allaah ordained the Hijaab in the first place? To avoid fitnah, by reducing temptation and separating the genders.

“The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said to the women on his way out of the mosque when he saw men and women mixing together on their way home: ‘Give way (i.e., walk to the sides) as it is not appropriate for you to walk in the middle the road.’ Thereafter, women would walk so close to the wall that their dresses would get caught on it.” (Abu Dawood)

Hijaab is also to conceal your sister

Although some sisters wear the Hijaab themselves, they forget that they cannot talk about another sister and her beauty in front of their own husbands, brothers, etc. Remember, part of your Hijaab is to cover your sisters ‘awrah’ as well.
The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said:

“No woman should mix with a woman and describe her to her husband so that it is as if he can see her.” (Muslim)

May Allah guide us and bless us with the TRUE understanding of His Deen. Ameen.

https://www.farhathashmi.com/articles-section/women-and-family/hijab/

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[Tweety Sweetie]

Hahah very funny that you are teaching me English when you cannot write a simple argument in English. Stop expecting some special treatment when you are acting so rude and arrogant. Correct yourself before correcting others and if you have no tolerance to hear different opinion then simply dont involve in discussion

You are hardly making any sense from Islamic point of view. Purpose of Hijab in Islam is much more than just covering your head and face. Veil/Hijab would serve no purpose if Hijabi is still involving in others immoral stuffs/activities after wearing hijab i.e wear veil and then go and watch romantic movie and drama on TV where guys and girls are flirting with each others . Wear veil and then go listen some romantic love songs etc wear veil and then check out random guys on street behind the veil , wear veil and then can go for dating etc

Read this article " Hijab is not a piece of cloth on your head "

Hijab is not a piece of cloth on your head. It’s a way of life.

Just because some of the sisters have their head covered, they think that the requirement of Hijaab is fulfilled. They don’t realize that wearing a Hijaab requires much more than just covering your head.

Actually, if you think about it, Hijaab is the way you talk…..the way you walk….the very way you carry yourself. In fact, Hijaab is an attitude in itself. Its a whole way of life.
Allaah says:

“And say to the believing women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their beauty (zeenah) except what is apparent of it, and to extend their headcoverings (khimars) to cover their bosoms (jaybs), and not to display their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband’s fathers, or their sons, or their husband’s sons, or their brothers, or their brothers’ sons, or their sisters’ sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule (slaves), or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or the small children to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments. And turn in repentance to Allah together, O you believers, in order that you are successful.” (Surat-un-Nur: 31).

Here are some of the more common issues in light of this verse about the Hijaab.

Well, my head is covered. What more do you want?

If you look carefully at the ayah, it clearly states that the head covers (khumur) should be drawn over the neck slits (juyoob). Khumur is the plural of the Arabic word “khimar” which means a headcover. Juyoob is the plural of the Arabic word “jaiyb”, which refers to the neck slit (of the dress).
Yet, some sisters just cover their head with something, and think they are fulfilling the rights of Hijaab, although part of their hair or body is showing, or their whole neck and chest area are exposed. Actually, that was the way of the women of Jahilliyah.
Al-Qurtubi said: “Women in those days used to cover their heads with the khimar, throwing its ends upon their backs. This left the neck and the upper part of the chest bare, along with the ears. Then Allah commanded them to cover those parts with the khimar.”
So secure the scarf well around your face, covering your neck/chest area, and keep those half sleeves and capri pants for your Mahrams

Sorry.…tight jeans and short shirt just don’t cut it

You can’t wear tight jeans and a short shirt with a piece of cloth on your head and think this is Hijaab. Nor can you wear anything else that is tight, describing the shape of the body in any way, even if it is long. The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said:

“In later (generations) of my ummah there will be women who will be dressed but naked. On top of their heads (what looks) like camel humps. They will not enter into paradise or (even) get a smell of it.” (Muslim)

If it is see-through, its NOT Hijaab

You CANNOT use chiffon or other see through material to cover your hair and body. Everything should be covered and the color of the skin underneath should not be visible.
The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) once received a thick garment as a gift. He gave it to Osamah b. Zayd, who in turn gave it to his wife. When asked by the Prophet why he did not wear it, Osamah indicated that he gave it to his wife.

The Prophet then said to Osamah “ask her to use a “gholalah” under it (the garment) for I fear that it (the garment) may describe the size of her bones.” (Ahmad, Abi-Dawood)

(The word gholalah in Arabic means a thick fabric worn under the dress to prevent it from describing the shape of the body).

The Hijaab shouldn’t attract attention

The dress should not be such that it attracts men’s attention to the woman’s beauty. Allaah clearly states “not to display their beauty (zeenah).” Yet, Subhaan Allaah, some Hijaabi sisters are dressed in such a way that they attract more attention to themselves than they would if they didn’t wear Hijaab!! How could such zeenah be concealed if the dress is designed in a way that it attracts men’s eyes to the woman? It beats the purpose of Hijaab.
Allaah tells us:

“And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance…” [al-Ahzaab:32]

What about make-up and perfume???

Wearing make up is also part of the zeenah that Allaah orders us NOT to display. So if your head and body are appropriately covered yet you are wearing bright red lipstick or dark eyeliner such that people confuse between you and a raccoon….uh sorry, that’s not Hijaab. And keep those nice fragrances for the home, between you and your husband. That’s part of Hijaab too, even if you are going to the Masjid. The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said:

“Any woman who puts on perfume and passes by people so that they can smell her fragrance, is an adulteress.” (al-Nasaa’i, Tirmidhi: hasan by Albaani)

Tinkling Jewelry and Jingling bracelets

‘Loud’ and tinkling anything, be it jewelry, bracelets, clip-clopping shoes, little bells on clothes, you name it, if it jingles or makes noise, it is against the principles of Hijaab, because it attracts attention to the one wearing it. That is what is meant when Allaah orders us in the above verse…“not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments.”

No laughing, joking, or hanging out with non-Mahrams

Some sisters assume that since they are properly covered, its okay for them to sit around and talk, laugh, joke, etc. with the men, but that’s not right, even if he is ‘the Shaikh’.

Allaah says:”. . . then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honorable manner.” [al-Ahzaab:32]

So talk to them when there is a specific need, and in a manner that is not necessarily rude, yet it is polite but firm.

Staring at the brothers or ‘checking them out’ is NOT Hijaab

Allaah orders us to “lower your gaze” in the above verse. Why? Because a single ‘look’ can say more than a thousand words. So, even if you are properly covered, keep those eyes down, conduct yourself with ‘Hayaa’, and avoid ‘fitnah’.

‘Chatting’ on the internet/phone is not part of Hijaab, either

There is no such thing as “we’re just friends”. Talking to non-Mahrams is wrong even if it is through the internet or telephone. There are too many stories of illegal relationships, fornications, broken homes, extra-marital affairs and runaway brides to even mention. That is why in Islam anything that leads to haraam is also haraam. Allaah says:

“Do not (even) come close to fornication, for it is an indecency, and its way is evil.” (Surah Israa:32)

Be careful, even in the way you walk

Remember, you are not a runway model displaying the latest fashion. Walk with modesty and hayaa and you will be respected. The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said:

“There are two types of the people of Hell that I have not seen yet….women who are clothed yet naked, walking with an enticing gait…..” (Muslim).

Don’t shake hands with non-Mahrams. Its part of Hijaab

It is not permissible to shake hands with a non-Mahram, because the Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said:

“For one of you to be stabbed in the head with an iron needle is better for him than to touch a woman who is not permissible for him.” (at-Tabaraani saheeh by al-Albaani).

And no, it is not rude to refuse to shake hands with non-Muslims. Simply politely explain that its part of your religion and they are very understanding.

Stay away from the men’s areas

I see many sisters entering the Masjid from the men’s entrance, or standing idle in the hallways or where there is a chance of unnecessary mixing with the brothers. What for?
Don’t we have a separate entrance for ourselves? Why do you think Allaah ordained the Hijaab in the first place? To avoid fitnah, by reducing temptation and separating the genders.

“The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said to the women on his way out of the mosque when he saw men and women mixing together on their way home: ‘Give way (i.e., walk to the sides) as it is not appropriate for you to walk in the middle the road.’ Thereafter, women would walk so close to the wall that their dresses would get caught on it.” (Abu Dawood)

Hijaab is also to conceal your sister

Although some sisters wear the Hijaab themselves, they forget that they cannot talk about another sister and her beauty in front of their own husbands, brothers, etc. Remember, part of your Hijaab is to cover your sisters ‘awrah’ as well.
The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said:

“No woman should mix with a woman and describe her to her husband so that it is as if he can see her.” (Muslim)

May Allah guide us and bless us with the TRUE understanding of His Deen. Ameen.

https://www.farhathashmi.com/articles-section/women-and-family/hijab/

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Well, when did I teach you English? and why are you laughing?? I don't think there was anything funny, so don't laugh in inappropriate situations, it makes you look insane note that: people often laugh when they don’t know how to handle the situation".

" if you have no tolerance to hear different opinion then simply don't involve in discussion".

Then you could’ve just ignored me and moved on with your life but instead you chose to reply to me, read your first post to know who really doesn't have tolerance and who showed the Symptoms of High Conflict Personality in the first place.

Why do you blame others when things go wrong and are so color blind to your own faults and don't view mistakes as learning opportunities?? I'm saying that because I see you’re unable to take constructive criticism and have resorted to projecting your own insecure thoughts. Very mature! First, you disagreed with me on niqab then showed different opinions on what Allah has stated about hijab (khimar) and now when I tried handling the conflict and making things clear to you, you suddenly started blaming hijabi for all the world's problems when this was not the topic we were talking about? seriously what's wrong with you? just simply say that you don't like the idea of Hijab because I literally cannot comprehend the reason for you wasting so much time copying and pasting the above thing, you've portrayed all hijabis to be very abysmal and dismal which is very wrong cause most of them are nothing like what you've written about them, its like all Muslims getting blamed for single acts of terror, I know that hijab is not a piece of cloth on head lekin ham is topic par to bilkul baat nahi kar rahay thay, kon c girl friend ke baare mein dukh hona shuru ho gya hai aapko ?? mein to sirf yeh batana chaahti thi ke its not unislamic at all to hide your face with a veil or hijab lekin aap phir topic change kar rahay ho, aap ab koi aur baat kar rahay ho. You rely heavily on ethnic stereotypes, why don't you also portray non-hijabi girls in Pakistan and other countries as sleazy? is it because you think they're stronger? It shows your hatred for those who obey the commands of Allah, What you've written about hijabis has proved to be one of the most bigoted text. Apart from incorporating every single negative stereotype about Hijabis one could think of, it has gone out of its way to paint them as a hidden danger to Islam.

So you should only mind your own business and lower your gaze as you're commanded by Allah and not interfere in Muslim women's clothes oh yess you can tell your mother, wife, sisters and daughters about the dangers of hijab and make insults about Islamic dress code for female all day and night and not feel the slightest bit bother by it, you can ask them to wear short clothes so that they look stronger to you but please you're not welcome to go to all kind of lengths to exacerbate the negative typecasting of hijabis here. I already read that article years ago aur mein ne yeh kab kaha ke aurat agr hijab pehn le to uska koi gunah bhi count nahi hota? itne zyada lecture kyun de rahe hein aap mujhe bhaai kya aapne fajr ki namaz bhi parhi hai aaj yaan aapko kalimas aatay hein kya? pehly khud mein jhaank ke to daikhein.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Well, when did I teach you English? and why are you laughing?? I don't think there was anything funny, so don't laugh in inappropriate situations, it makes you look insane note that: people often laugh when they don’t know how to handle the situation".

" if you have no tolerance to hear different opinion then simply don't involve in discussion".

Then you could’ve just ignored me and moved on with your life but instead you chose to reply to me, read your first post to know who really doesn't have tolerance and who showed the Symptoms of High Conflict Personality in the first place.

Why do you blame others when things go wrong and are so color blind to your own faults and don't view mistakes as learning opportunities?? I'm saying that because I see you’re unable to take constructive criticism and have resorted to projecting your own insecure thoughts. Very mature! First, you disagreed with me on niqab then showed different opinions on what Allah has stated about hijab (khimar) and now when I tried handling the conflict and making things clear to you, you suddenly started blaming hijabi for all the world's problems when this was not the topic we were talking about? seriously what's wrong with you? just simply say that you don't like the idea of Hijab because I literally cannot comprehend the reason for you wasting so much time copying and pasting the above thing, you've portrayed all hijabis to be very abysmal and dismal which is very wrong cause most of them are nothing like what you've written about them, its like all Muslims getting blamed for single acts of terror, I know that hijab is not a piece of cloth on head lekin ham is topic par to bilkul baat nahi kar rahay thay, kon c girl friend ke baare mein dukh hona shuru ho gya hai aapko ?? mein to sirf yeh batana chaahti thi ke its not unislamic at all to hide your face with a veil or hijab lekin aap phir topic change kar rahay ho, aap ab koi aur baat kar rahay ho. You rely heavily on ethnic stereotypes, why don't you also portray non-hijabi girls in Pakistan and other countries as sleazy? is it because you think they're stronger? It shows your hatred for those who obey the commands of Allah, What you've written about hijabis has proved to be one of the most bigoted text. Apart from incorporating every single negative stereotype about Hijabis one could think of, it has gone out of its way to paint them as a hidden danger to Islam.

So you should only mind your own business and lower your gaze as you're commanded by Allah and not interfere in Muslim women's clothes oh yess you can tell your mother, wife, sisters and daughters about the dangers of hijab and make insults about Islamic dress code for female all day and night and not feel the slightest bit bother by it, you can ask them to wear short clothes so that they look stronger to you but please you're not welcome to go to all kind of lengths to exacerbate the negative typecasting of hijabis here. I already read that article years ago aur mein ne yeh kab kaha ke aurat agr hijab pehn le to uska koi gunah bhi count nahi hota? itne zyada lecture kyun de rahe hein aap mujhe bhaai kya aapne fajr ki namaz bhi parhi hai aaj yaan aapko kalimas aatay hein kya? pehly khud mein jhaank ke to daikhein.

It would be better if you spend more time reading and understanding what others are trying to say instead of posting long irrelevant essay. You are simply putting your words in my mouth. There is so much assumptions and judgement in your post about me . I personally dont dictate any woman what to wear and what not to wear because they are all adult who can decide for themselves and have full understanding of modesty. Some of my sisters are wearing Hijab and others are just wearing simple shalwar kameez with duppta covering head/body and boht choices are fine with me

Let me explain again ( in Urdu) this time where I differed with you

1) Hijab sirf face/head covering ko nhi bolte bulkey Hijab pora dress code ha k app k kapre tight na hoon, app k Jism ka kohe hissa nazar na ahey aur Mard k nazdek beauty sirf aurat ka face nhi hota..Ulema iss main differ karte hain k mandatory hijab kiya ha ..Kuch kehte hain hijab main face visible ho sakhta ha..kuch kehte hain niqab jisss man sirf eyes nazar ati hain is real hijab ha.. kuch full face veil jesa k Afghanistan main ha uss ko asli hijab bolte hain tu ek opinion nhi ha k hijab

2) Dosra point yea tha k agar kohee Hijab pehne aur uss k aknhoon main aur actions main haya/Sharam na hoo aur kaam sare besharmoon wale karey tu hijab ka kiya maqsad rah jata phir..yea phir Hijab k disrespect ha meri nazar main ..Pakistan main even prostitute wear Hijab jab customer se milte hain tu kia woo naik hoon ghi kyoon k Hijab pehna howa ha.. Hijab pehan kar bundi kar kia rhi ha matter most than hijab itself

3) Tesra point yea ha mard ko lusty animal mat banaoo jo har uss aurat ko kha jahey jiss ne hijab nhi pehna howa ..Mard ko respect karni Chaya aurtoon ki jo niqab aur full face veil main hoon yea na hoon....kohe acha yea bura nhi bun jata sirf hijab k karne yea na karne se ..Insaan k pori personality hoti ha jo uss ko define karti ha acha yea bura banati ha

 

[jamahir]

if women don't cover her face then it's not a sin but its encouraged in many Islamic countries including Syria

This is Asma al Assad, the wife of the Syrian president. She doesn't wear the niqab ( face cover ) and this is among other things why she and her husband are not liked by Western governments :

 

[Tweety Sweetie]

@Proudpakistaniguy

It would be better if you spend more time reading and understanding what others are trying to say instead of posting long irrelevant essay. You are simply putting your words in my mouth. There is so much assumptions and judgement in your post about me . I personally dont dictate any woman what to wear and what not to wear because they are all adult who can decide for themselves and have full understanding of modesty. Some of my sisters are wearing Hijab and others are just wearing simple shalwar kameez with duppta covering head/body and boht choices are fine with me

Let me explain again ( in Urdu) this time where I differed with you

1) Hijab sirf face/head covering ko nhi bolte bulkey Hijab pora dress code ha k app k kapre tight na hoon, app k Jism ka kohe hissa nazar na ahey aur Mard k nazdek beauty sirf aurat ka face nhi hota..Ulema iss main differ karte hain k mandatory hijab kiya ha ..Kuch kehte hain hijab main face visible ho sakhta ha..kuch kehte hain niqab jisss man sirf eyes nazar ati hain is real hijab ha.. kuch full face veil jesa k Afghanistan main ha uss ko asli hijab bolte hain tu ek opinion nhi ha k hijab

2) Dosra point yea tha k agar kohee Hijab pehne aur uss k aknhoon main aur actions main haya/Sharam na hoo aur kaam sare besharmoon wale karey tu hijab ka kiya maqsad rah jata phir..yea phir Hijab k disrespect ha meri nazar main ..Pakistan main even prostitute wear Hijab jab customer se milte hain tu kia woo naik hoon ghi kyoon k Hijab pehna howa ha.. Hijab pehan kar bundi kar kia rhi ha matter most than hijab itself

3) Tesra point yea ha mard ko lusty animal mat banaoo jo har uss aurat ko kha jahey jiss ne hijab nhi pehna howa ..Mard ko respect karni Chaya aurtoon ki jo niqab aur full face veil main hoon yea na hoon....kohe acha yea bura nhi bun jata sirf hijab k karne yea na karne se ..Insaan k pori personality hoti ha jo uss ko define karti ha acha yea bura banati ha

"It would be better if you spend more time reading and understanding what others are trying to say instead of posting long irrelevant essay", yeh sab batein krne se pehly yeh bataaein ke kis baat par hanse aur yeh proof bhi dein ke mein ne kab aapko English teach ki. And I never wanted to argue I just needed to address your STATEMENTS, why is talking to you is like talking to a brick wall??? I think its time to let the argument die because you're not seeing factual things as factual, yeh bhi to sochein ke aapne ayesa kaam kya kiya jis ki waja se aap judge ho rahe hein, baad mein judgment ki complaint krte hein !!!!

1) Hijab sirf face/head covering ko nhi bolte bulkey Hijab pora dress code ha k app k kapre tight na hoon, app k Jism ka kohe hissa nazar na ahey aur Mard k nazdek beauty sirf aurat ka face nhi hota..Ulema iss main differ karte hain k mandatory hijab kiya ha ..Kuch kehte hain hijab main face visible ho sakhta ha..kuch kehte hain niqab jisss man sirf eyes nazar ati hain is real hijab ha.. kuch full face veil jesa k Afghanistan main ha uss ko asli hijab bolte hain tu ek opinion nhi ha k hijab

Daikhein, Ulama ki baat to tab sunte hein na jab hamain kisi cheeze ki confusion ho, kuch samajh na aaye yaan ham ne kuch jaanna ho etc lekin jab Holy Quran mein saaf saaf hamaare Creator ne word "khimar" which refers to a piece of cloth that covers the head use kr diya hai jis ke baare mein aapne cool dikhne ke liye soche samjhe tanaz bhi ki "hijab mubarak ho" bol kar so why should we rely on scholars and sheikhs to dictate how we understand the hijab is an absolutely sheep-like approach jab Allah ne saaf saaf huqm de diya head covering ka to ulama ki kya zururat, kya ham apna zehan khud nahi istemal kr skte, kya ham hijab se related verses par khud nahi reflect kar sakte as the Noble Quran clearly states "head covering".this isn't over analyzation. If you are going to rest your case on the word 'hair'; Allah didn't mention anything about how to perform salah or do hajj..is it than freedom of choice for a muslim not to do either of those? We not only need to follow the Noble Quran but sunnah aswell. And in sunnah its clearly supporting the verses of the Holy Quran related to Hijab!

1)2) Dosra point yea tha k agar kohee Hijab pehne aur uss k aknhoon main aur actions main haya/Sharam na hoo aur kaam sare besharmoon wale karey tu hijab ka kiya maqsad rah jata phir..yea phir Hijab k disrespect ha meri nazar main ..Pakistan main even prostitute wear Hijab jab customer se milte hain tu kia woo naik hoon ghi kyoon k Hijab pehna howa ha.. Hijab pehan kar bundi kar kia rhi ha matter most than hijab itself

Well, zara aap mujhe us so called be haya aur be sharam hijabi ka naam to bataao jis ke saare kaam besharmoon wale hein, mujhe bhi to pata chale ayesi kaun si hijabi hai woh maybe aapne koi batman daikha ho ga are you out of your mind?


And why are you telling me all this? I already know that Allah looks at the heart lekin hijab bhi pehnna zurury hai kyun ki us ka huqm Allah ne diya hai, aurat chaahay jitni bhi hayadaar aur jitni bhi sharmeeli kyun na ho lekin jab tak woh hijab nahi pehne gi (yani Allah ka huqm nahi maane gi) to uski ayesi so called modesty ka aur ayesi so called shyness ka koi faidha nahi ho ga because all those qualities would surely become worthless and she will be among the losers, ham ayese bande se kya expect kar sakte hein jo Allah ka huqm hi na maanay?

"It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allaah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision” [al-Ahzaab 33:36]

Mujhe pata hai ke hijab aankhon mein, action mein bhi nazr aana chahiye hai aur haya aur sharam mein bhi lekin asal Hijab jis ka Allah ne Quran mein huqm diya us ke baghair yeh sab kuch useless hai, aap baat ayese kar rahay hein jese non-hijabis paakeeza farishte aasmaan se utar kar aayi hein. Why are you POINTING YOUR FINGERS AT HIJABIS ONLY?????? Hijab to peghambron ki bibiyaan bhi pehnti thi, hijab to Hazrat Maryam ne bhi pehna hua hai Hijab to boht si pakeeza larkiyan bhi pehnti hein lekin aapko sirf aur sirf pleet prostitutes hi kyun nazr aayi hijab ke baare mein baat krne k liye? yeh sab batain kar ke aap sirf apni asal assliyat hi dikha rahay hein aur kuch nahi aur woh prostitutes hijab is liye pehnti hon gi taakay koi unhein daikh na sakay, they don't wear hijab in their day to day life like us unhein sirf khud ko hide krna hota hai aur ayese hi hamain badnaam kar deti hein, agr un ki maa ne unhein shuru se hi Islam ki tarbiyat di hoti to woh aaj ayesi na hoti. Hijab to aurat sirf Allah ke liye pehnti hai to jo aurat hijab pehn kar bhi behayaai phailaye toh woh Allah ko khud jawaab de gi yeh uska aur Allah ka maamla hai aapka nahi (wese mujhe nahi lagta ke hijab pehn kar koi behayaai phela sakta hai its almost impossible) lekin aap yeh bhi toh daikhein ke atleast she is trying to please Allah to itne gande halaat mein phir bhi woh croron non-hijabis se behtar hai jo is waqt half clothes pehn kar mujre mein dance kr rhi hein, Islamabad ke gande clubs mein bhi ayesi non hijabis paayi jaati hein, univierisites, college aur schools mein fitne phailaane lagi hui hein even yeh jaante hoye bhi that the more you reveal, the cheaper you are regarded but aapko yeh sab nazr nahi aaraha, aap phir bhi lagatar hijabis ko hi criticize kr rahay ho, mujhe to yeh cheez samajh nahi aarahi ke why are you very critical of hijabis and always points out what they're doing wrong when you know very well that they are wearing "an ayah" of the Noble Quran so you should not be too concerned with what they do kyun ki unho ne apne sar par aiek boht bari zimadaari li hui hai.

Hijab pehan kar bundi kar kia rhi ha matter most than hijab itself

“If you avoid the great sins which you are forbidden to do, We shall expiate from you your (small) sins, and admit you to a Noble Entrance (i.e. Paradise)” [al-Nisaa’ 4:31]

Atleast she is wearing the Hijab in this age of nudity and trying to please Allah to kya pata Allah us so called "be haya hijabi" ke chotay chotay gunah maaf kar de, aaj kal ke zamane mein yeh bhi bari baat hai ke koi musalman larki hijab pehn le. And WELL Hijab plays a key role in the purification of the soul and deep inner contentment for us so hamaare baare mein itna overly concerned honay ki baat nahi, fikr krni hai to sirf aur sirf apni maa, bv behno aur betiyon ke baare mein kro jinhein aaj tak najanay kitne ghair mardon ne sar dhake baghair baalon smait daikha ho ga, najanay kitne mardon ne unko short aur revealing clothes mein daikha ho ga lekin aapko to is cheez ki fikr hi nahi, aap to laga taar apni ungli hijabis par hi point kiye jaa rahay ho

Kese bhaai ho aap! kese bete ho aap! kese baap ho aap! aur khaas tar kese Pakistani aur kese musalmaan ho aap! just wow!

kohe acha yea bura nhi bun jata sirf hijab k karne yea na karne se ..Insaan k pori personality hoti ha jo uss ko define karti ha acha yea bura banati ha

Well, Hijab ka huqm to "Allah rabbul alamin" ne diya hai to (jab tak ham us "Allah rabbul alaminne" ka "huqm" na maane ge ham kbhi bhi aiek "acha" aur "behtar" insaan nahi ban paayein ge) so sorry but aapki is baat ko parh kar mujhe ayesa laga that you tried to look smart but failed miserably, You have no interest in understanding and only want to air your own opinions, Whenever truth conflicts with your beliefs you will reject it and create an alternative so I think its better to stop talking to you now, it is really impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.

 

[El Sidd]

It would be better if you spend more time reading and understanding what others are trying to say instead of posting long irrelevant essay. You are simply putting your words in my mouth. There is so much assumptions and judgement in your post about me . I personally dont dictate any woman what to wear and what not to wear because they are all adult who can decide for themselves and have full understanding of modesty. Some of my sisters are wearing Hijab and others are just wearing simple shalwar kameez with duppta covering head/body and boht choices are fine with me

Let me explain again ( in Urdu) this time where I differed with you

1) Hijab sirf face/head covering ko nhi bolte bulkey Hijab pora dress code ha k app k kapre tight na hoon, app k Jism ka kohe hissa nazar na ahey aur Mard k nazdek beauty sirf aurat ka face nhi hota..Ulema iss main differ karte hain k mandatory hijab kiya ha ..Kuch kehte hain hijab main face visible ho sakhta ha..kuch kehte hain niqab jisss man sirf eyes nazar ati hain is real hijab ha.. kuch full face veil jesa k Afghanistan main ha uss ko asli hijab bolte hain tu ek opinion nhi ha k hijab

2) Dosra point yea tha k agar kohee Hijab pehne aur uss k aknhoon main aur actions main haya/Sharam na hoo aur kaam sare besharmoon wale karey tu hijab ka kiya maqsad rah jata phir..yea phir Hijab k disrespect ha meri nazar main ..Pakistan main even prostitute wear Hijab jab customer se milte hain tu kia woo naik hoon ghi kyoon k Hijab pehna howa ha.. Hijab pehan kar bundi kar kia rhi ha matter most than hijab itself

3) Tesra point yea ha mard ko lusty animal mat banaoo jo har uss aurat ko kha jahey jiss ne hijab nhi pehna howa ..Mard ko respect karni Chaya aurtoon ki jo niqab aur full face veil main hoon yea na hoon....kohe acha yea bura nhi bun jata sirf hijab k karne yea na karne se ..Insaan k pori personality hoti ha jo uss ko define karti ha acha yea bura banati ha

"It would be better if you spend more time reading and understanding what others are trying to say instead of posting long irrelevant essay", yeh sab batein krne se pehly yeh bataaein ke kis baat par hanse aur yeh proof bhi dein ke mein ne kab aapko English teach ki. And I never wanted to argue I just needed to address your STATEMENTS, why is talking to you is like talking to a brick wall??? I think its time to let the argument die because you're not seeing factual things as factual, yeh bhi to sochein ke aapne ayesa kaam kya kiya jis ki waja se aap judge ho rahe hein, baad mein judgment ki complaint krte hein !!!!




Daikhein, Ulama ki baat to tab sunte hein na jab hamain kisi cheeze ki confusion ho, kuch samajh na aaye yaan ham ne kuch jaanna ho etc lekin jab Holy Quran mein saaf saaf hamaare Creator ne word "khimar" which refers to a piece of cloth that covers the head use kr diya hai so why should we rely on scholars and sheikhs to dictate how we understand the hijab is an absolutely sheep-like approach, kya ham apna zehan khud nahi istemal kr skte, kya ham hijab se related verses par khud nahi reflect kar sakte as the Noble Quran clearly states "head covering".this isn't over analyzation. If you are going to rest your case on the word 'hair'; Allah didn't mention anything about how to perform salah or do hajj..is it than freedom of choice for a muslim not to do either of those? We not only need to follow the Noble Quran but sunnah aswell. And in sunnah its clearly supporting the verses of the Holy Quran related to Hijab!



Yeh sab aap mujhe kyun bata rahay hein? I already know that Allah looks at the heart lekin hijab bhi pehnna zurury hai kyun ki us ka huqm Allah ne diya hai, aurat chaahay jitni bhi hayadaar aur jitni bhi sharmeeli kyun na ho lekin jab tak woh hijab nahi pehne gi (yani Allah ka huqm nahi maane gi) to uski ayesi so called modesty ka aur ayesi so called shyness ka koi faidha nahi ho ga because all those qualities would surely become worthless and she will be among the losers, ham ayese bande se kya expect kar sakte hein jo Allah ka hi huqm na maanay?

Mujhe pata hai ke hijab aankhon mein, action mein bhi nazr aana chahiye hai aur haya aur sharam mein lekin Hijab ke baghair yeh sab kuch useless hai, aap baat ayese kar rahay hein jese non-hijabis paakeeza farishte aasmaan se utar kar aayi hein. Why are you POINTING YOUR FINGERS AT HIJABIS ONLY????????? Hijab ki beadbi mat karo, please don't talk about Hijabis like this, Hijab to peghambron ki bibiyaan bhi pehnti thi, hijab to Hazrat Maryam ne bhi pehna hua hai Hijab to boht si pakeeza larkiyan bhi pehnti hein lekin aapko sirf aur sirf pleet prostitutes hi kyun nazr aayi hijab ki baat krne k liye? Aur woh prostutues hijab is liye pehnti hon gi taakay koi yeh naa jaan sakay ke woh heera mandi ki padaish hain they don't wear hijab in their day to day lives unhein sirf khud ko hide krna hota hai aur ayese hi hamain badnaam kar deti hein agr un ki maa ne unhein shuru se hi Islam ki tarbiyat di hoti to woh aaj ayesi na hoti. Jo hijab pehn kar bhi behayi phailaye toh woh Allah ko khud jawaab de gi lekin aap yeh bhi toh daikhein ke woh croron non-hijabis se behtar hai jo is waqt half clothes pehn kar mujre mein dance kr rhi hein, Islamabad ke gande clubs mein bhi ayesi non hijabis paayi jaati hein, univierisites, college aur schools mein fitne phailaane lagi hui hein but aapko yeh sab nazr nahi aaraha, aap lagatar hijabis ko hi critise kr rahay ho, mujhe yeh cheez samajh nahi aarahi ke why are you very critical of hijabis and always points out what they're doing wrong.

[QUOTE="kohe acha yea bura nhi bun jata sirf hijab k karne yea na karne se ..Insaan k pori personality hoti ha jo uss ko define karti ha acha yea bura banati ha

Well, Hijab ka huqm to "Allah rabbul alamin" ne diya hai to (jab tak ham us "Allah rabbul alaminne" ka "huqm" na maane ge ham kbhi bhi aiek acha aur behtar insaan nahi ban paayein ge) so sorry but aapki is baat ko parh kar mujhe ayesa laga that you tried to look smart but failed miserably, its just my opinion and nothing else. I'm sorry but it shows you have no interest in understanding and only want to air your own opinions, Whenever truth conflicts with your beliefs you will reject it and create an alternative so I think its better to stop talking to you now, it is really impossible to defeat an igorant man in argument.[/QUOTE]

Pakistanis are being killed in Kashmir and you guys are debating about a piece of clothing?

For shame !!!

 

[Tweety Sweetie]

This is Asma al Assad, the wife of the Syrian president. She doesn't wear the niqab ( face cover ) and this is among other things why she and her husband are not liked by Western governments :

Why are you showing me the wife of Israel's puppet called Bashar al Assad who is also the most hated personality of Syria?

These are the typical Syrian girls:

 

[denel]

Bow the unislamic practice of face hiding burqa or veil should be banned asap. Starting with pakistan, turkey, iran , etc

Face hiding is unnatural, totally wrong and a disease mentality!

It is fine - nothing wrong with traditional beliefs. There is a difference between islamic jurisprudence vs traditional beliefs by region.

 

[jamahir]

Israel's puppet called Bashar al Assad

What !!

Why do you call him as an Israeli puppet ?? If anything, it is him who is among the leaders most hated by the Israeli government.

One of our Israeli members, @500 , will be shocked or surprised by your opinion.

Consider this :

1. Israel bombed Syria's suspected nuclear installation facility in 2007.

2. In the current war in Syria, Israeli military medical units treat the wounds of the so-called rebels who come to the Israel-Syria border.

Other such things.

who is also the most hated personality of Syria?

This is the eighth year of the Syria war. If the patriotic Syrians hated al Assad and wanted him to be not president, he would have long gone. Simple.

Question yourself this : Why do Israeli's Western allies want al Assad gone ??

These are the typical Syrian girls:

We are talking about the face cover, yes ??

Watch this vid and this vid ( both short ones ) about the women volunteers of the Syrian National Defence Forces which is a force of Syrian volunteers defending their country from the NATO-supported terrorists.

Some of the women volunteers wear the hijab ( hair cover ) and some not. But this in no way says who supports Bashar al Assad and who not.

I think the last ten years or so in Syria has seen much more wearing of the head cover and the face cover. This is similar to increased full burqa wearing in India in the same time frame.

The below photo is supposedly from 80s Afghanistan. Now since I don't know Farsi, Dari, Pashto or Nastaliq Urdu, I don't know what is written on those banners. But in those days, at least some Afghan women had the freedom to not wear that silly shuttlecock burqa.

When others in the world are talking about settling on Mars, we Muslims are fighting each other and discussing how important covering the face is.

Bow the unislamic practice of face hiding burqa or veil should be banned asap. Starting with pakistan, turkey, iran , etc

I don't think in Iran they wear the niqab ( face cover ). I think they wear the chador ( their version of a semi-burqa ) and the hair cover.

@Ziggurat “TepeSialk“ , am I right ??