Music ? or Vulgarity with soft P()rn ?

[gambit]

It unfortunate that vulgarity sells more these days. Most of these artists do it against their own will

It is about competition and wealth.

A book take time to produce in the entire chain starting with the author. You need to research, be creative, educated, interview people, travels, and many other smaller things. When you finally got published, people must take time to find your book. They must travel to a bookstore and look for your book. Overall, a book is labor and time intensive for everyone.

Radio speeds everything up, including you and your creative processes, assuming you are a creative person in the first place. Precisely because I do not need to look for you, the burden is on you. At best, I will have to travel to the record store and look for your products there, but I can access you in my home and car. In essence, I need you less than you need me.

Video upsets everything in the chain. Now, not only must you be creative in thoughts and voice, you must be creative, or hire someone creative, in the visual realm. In many ways, creativity is now 3D in a manner of speaking. I now need you even less than you need me. So in order for me to be loyal to you, you need to outdo others who are vying for the same from me.

What I said is simplistic, I will grant you that, but the general ideas are there.

 

[Kambojaric]

Stiff competition means that recording studios dont dare testing different or unique sounds anymore. Rather they have a tested formula which works time and time again. The millennial whoop is an example. Used in various genres and so familiar to the ear, your brain ends up liking the song before you even register its sound properly.

In that sense Pakistani music still maintains its uniqueness and is the reason why it ranks so much better than Bollywood music for example. The need for successful songs due to stiff competition means Bollywood does not dare to be creative with music. Instead Pakistani musicians not being held back by corporations are able to innovate and create new sounds. Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan merging Qawalli with western music, Junoon mixing rock with traditional sufi songs, indeed the very concept of Coke Studio and its fusions is the reason why Pakistani music is always a step ahead, and why Bollywood keeps stealing Pakistani music if not hiring Pakistani musicians.

 

[Wow]

so the solution do we go all communist dictatorship ban it?

 

[War Thunder]

So guys I don't think this topic is been discussed here before , technically its a bit odd topic for defense forum but as this forum is open to people across the Globe , it will be good to know what people think about it .

The question is why the Music in America or mostly western countries and now even India is becoming so pathetic , Disgusting , Vulgar , cussing , abusive words like ( Mother fcuker , Pu$$y , D!ck , B|_|tt , etc , and videos are nothing but soft por|\|s . now when i compare Songs to the songs here in South Asia , middle East and even Old Indian songs the Lyrics are delicate and beautiful , a lot of songs where a lover describing his loved one in a decent and delicate way, by using beautiful words , expressing his/her feelings in a more sophisticated way , but in west a song contains less words or music more pornographic material and cussing words , and more weirdly people like that music but how ?
its more of a scientific fact now that Music plays a very crucial role in anyone's personality , so based on that , why Singers male/female still use such words and visuals in their songs which they know will be watched by teen age young kids ?

Second question is that Singers mostly active in social media and against sexist's and misogyny but they themselves objectify man and women in their videos ? half naked girls or boys dancing , performing weird sexual acts on beats or commands , i think that does more harm to one's personality than good, and Music is suppose to be tool for releasing stress and calm one soul , but I wont lie that when i watch songs of Nikki , Taylor , rihanna , Eminem , you name it , it just gives me nothing but a headache .

So what do you think the Problem is with Western and now even India music ? why it changes it course for a decent more delicate lyrics to Pu$$y and D!ck ?
I am not tagging people here, because I want everyone to participate in this thread , and please this is not thread for your Favorite song , so please don't go off-topic , this thread is about the Songs that is full of Vulgarity and explicit stuff how its bad for Teen ager's and society in General , and why this is become Normal in our world and society to let our kids , younger siblings to let them watch such songs and later it somehow influence their personality ? .

 

[Corona]

I honestly think that the market is just wider nowadays. There probably was demand for all kinds of songs and music in the past, but there was no means to get it. So people had to do with what was accepted and available. Not the case now. I say let people enjoy their music.

And it's not like this phenomenon is limited to music either. Movies, books, games.....you get all sort of genres with these mediums.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Moral degradation and collapse of the West, and its export to its allied and lackey countries.

Alhamdulilah for Islam and for a culture which has given us safeguards against the proliferation of these social ills.

If you heard of the romantic and marital lives of most Americans, you would be shocked. It is a free for all, loyalty is totally gone now from their society.

 

[Wow]

the problem is if we dont create anything to counter with our imaginations and our induatry like movies songs books then we have no right to complain

Thats the problem we Pakistanis have that we complain to high heaven how we hate India then we spend money watching there movies and songs

im an aspiring author and artist so im trying to do my little part

people need entertainment in this depressing world we live in if they dont get here there are goin to get it from someone else

other wise one solution dont listen to it

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Buddy, I agree with you here. Am a jazz and blues man meself and absolutely deplores the current state of popular music in the US and the West in general. The issue is not creativity because I do see creative impulses even in rap. But rather, it is the artists' belief that if vulgarities are not used, absurdly somehow the song is not 'creative' or 'edgy'. This is about one-upmanship.

It doesnt even make sense, none of the songs do from any country. Trust me I've tried looking. The only songs with some sort of deep poetic meaing that I found were frm the pakistani coke studio but that was also a few seasons ago. Music and film is on a decline until there is an arts revolution again.

 

[halupridol]

Nusrrat Fateh Sings = Souchta hun ke woh kitne Masoom the , kia se kia ho gaye dekhte dekhte ...
Some Random American Singer = Look what you got ? I am motherFcuking Star boy ...

Rahat Fateh Ali sings = Esa dekha nai Khubsoorat kahen , Jism jaise Ajanta ki murat koi ..
Nikki Minaj Sings = My Anaconda Don't want none of that unless you got Buns huns ...

I like straboy

 

[Rusty]

man, you guys all sound like old babas complaining about "the kids these days"

I am not a fan of such music, but if there is a market for it, let people have it.
No one will ever force you to listen to it so who cares!

 

[Clutch]

man, you guys all sound like old babas complaining about "the kids these days"

I am not a fan of such music, but if there is a market for it, let people have it.
No one will ever force you to listen to it so who cares!

The question isn't about personal freedoms... It's rather the main-streaming, acceptance, and degeneration without a bottom of the p0rn-music industry that is of concern

 

[gambit]

I am not a fan of such music, but if there is a market for it, let people have it.
No one will ever force you to listen to it so who cares!

True...But that does not mean modern music is immune from criticism, which is what we are doing.

One of my favorite band -- believe this old geezer or not -- is: Avenged Sevenfold or A7X. They are awesome in terms of music and lyrics. Their music are often classified as with 'Mature Content' but nowhere as crude as with rap. Check out A7X.

 

[Rusty]

True...But that does not mean modern music is immune from criticism, which is what we are doing.

One of my favorite band -- believe this old geezer or not -- is: Avenged Sevenfold or A7X. They are awesome in terms of music and lyrics. Their music are often classified as with 'Mature Content' but nowhere as crude as with rap. Check out A7X.

fair enough.
It's just that some of the more conservative elments here go from criticisms to fatwas fairly quickly.

I miss the early 90s rap and mid 90s rock. That is my music

 

[gambit]

fair enough.
It's just that some of the more conservative elments here go from criticisms to fatwas fairly quickly.

I miss the early 90s rap and mid 90s rock. That is my music

I kinda miss the 'hair bands' where everyone wore tight spandex that outlines 'everything'. Hilarious.

 

[Rusty]

The question isn't about personal freedoms... It's rather the main-streaming, acceptance, and degeneration without a bottom of the p0rn-music industry that is of concern

I understand what you are saying but there is no such thing as degeneration.
Every generation in the history of humaity has been vulgure and crude.

Ancient rome used to scratch dick jokes onto walls.

I was recently in Lebanon and one of the first Calipha (after the first 5) had a palace built there were images of naked women.

I can go on.

we think that our ancestors were pure but boy oh boy the evidence shows the complete opposit.