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Musharraf plan haunts India-Pakistan peace roadmap

Musharraf plan haunts India-Pakistan peace roadmapLONDON: India and Pakistan may have begun talking to each other again but as yet there is no clear vision on where those talks might lead.

As a result many analysts are looking to a roadmap agreed in secret two years ago - and which only really came to light this year - as probably the best model around for a peace deal.

"It's a good deal for Pakistan, for India, for the Kashmiris," said Bruce Riedel, who led a review of strategy in Afghanistan and Pakistan for President Barack Obama.

Negotiated by advisors to former president Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, the accord made an ambitious attempt to lay out a framework for peace in Kashmir, which has been divided between the two countries since 1947.

While there was to be no exchange of territory, borders were to be made irrelevant by encouraging the movement of people and trade across the Line of Control which divides Kashmir.

At the same time, a joint mechanism would be set up which would allow both countries to supervise Kashmir affairs.

One source familiar with the deal said there was no evidence it would ever have worked - the exact nature of the joint mechanism, for example, was never agreed upon.

But the negotiating process alone functioned as an important "shock-absorber" between the two nuclear-armed countries, which have fought three full-scale wars and faced many spikes in tension, most recently after last year's attacks on Mumbai.

According to Riedel, who is now at the Brookings Institution think tank in Washington, western diplomats would like to see them getting back into the position they reached in 2007.

Yet doing so is difficult for both countries.

Pakistan's civilian government would find it hard to embrace a deal negotiated by Musharraf after fighting to force the former army general out of office last year.

"Politically it would be very difficult to accept this was Musharraf's achievement," said journalist and analyst Steve Coll, who was the first to write in detail about the accord.
And in India, there is little public support for peace moves after the three-day assault by Pakistani gunmen on Mumbai.

"There is a hardening of posture. Outside of Manmohan Singh, there are no doves left in this government," said Praveen Swami at The Hindu newspaper - though he added that a return to the principles of 2007 would be great from an Indian point of view.

India is also dubious about whether any deal with Pakistan's civilian government would be backed by the army, adding a layer of complication which did not exist with Musharraf.

Form over substance

So for the moment the two countries are engaged in tactical battles which focus more on form than on substance.

Though they agreed at a meeting in Egypt last week to hold further talks, India rejected Pakistan's call to hold these within the "composite dialogue" - the formal peace process broken off by New Delhi after the attack on Mumbai.

Despite public rhetoric about working together to fight terrorism, they are locked into an almost impossible situation.

India wants action against the Laskhar-e-Taiba (LeT), the militant group based in Pakistan's Punjab province blamed for Mumbai.

But realistically few believe Pakistan is about to disarm all the gunmen in the LeT - whose estimated numbers run into the thousands - at a time when its army is battling the Pakistani Taliban in the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan.

Without a peace deal, Pakistan would be unlikely to disarm a militant group it once nurtured to fight Indian rule in Kashmir, and whose armed cadres could still be used as a first line of defense in the event of an invasion by India.

At best it will take limited action under pressure.

"LeT is the group Pakistan wants to wind down last, not first," said one analyst who tracks militant groups there.

Riedel said that in any case, western governments should keep pushing for action on the LeT, increasingly seen as a threat not just to India but also to the West.

But he also said India had been "awfully slow" in taking up the deal offered by Musharraf in 2007 before he become embroiled in political problems that eventually forced him out of office.

"India does not deserve a get-out-of-jail free card," he said. "They should have grasped this when the chance was there and they missed a major opportunity."
And as for how it looks inside Kashmir?

"On the question of expectations, there aren't many here," said Basharat Peer, a Kashmiri journalist who has just published a book on the impact of the conflict on ordinary people. "It is pure anger and a lot of despair in Kashmir nowadays."

Reuters
 
While there was to be no exchange of territory, borders were to be made irrelevant by encouraging the movement of people and trade across the Line of Control which divides Kashmir.

Reuters

If this is the basis of peace process there would not be any major problems from indian side.

My best wishes for the process. :cheers: :cheers:
 
^^ Don't you think, your concent is bit too late?
you missed the flight, simply because congress wished this key feather in their crown and not in BJP's.

The Afghan-Pakistan Solution
By PERVEZ MUSHARRAF

An exit strategy must be predicated on achieving military and political goals, not dictated by time limits.

My recent trip to the United States has been an enriching experience, during which I had a very healthy discourse with the American public and an opportunity to understand their concerns about the war in Afghanistan. One question I was asked almost everywhere I went was, "How can we stop losing?"

The answer is a political surge, in conjunction with the additional troops requested by Gen. Stanley McChrystal. Quitting is not an option.

A military solution alone cannot guarantee success. Armies can only win sometimes, and at best, create an environment for the political process to work. At the end of the day, it is civilians, not soldiers, who have to take charge of their country.

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U.S. Army and National Guard troops on patrol in Logar Province, Afghanistan.
After decades of civil war and anarchy, the Taliban established control over 95% of Afghanistan in 1996. Unfortunately, the Taliban imposed their strict interpretation of Islam on the country. Nevertheless, I proposed to recognize the Taliban regime, in the hope of transforming them from within. Had my strategy been enacted, we might have persuaded the Taliban to deny a safe haven to al Qaeda and avoided the tragic 9/11 attacks.

Another golden opportunity to rescue the Afghan people emerged after the United Nations sanctioned international military operation launched after 9/11. Having liberated Afghanistan from the tyranny of al Qaeda and Taliban, the U.S. had the unequivocal support of the majority of Afghans. The establishment of a truly representative national government which gave proportional representation to all ethnic groups—including the majority Pashtuns—would have brought peace to Afghanistan and ousted al Qaeda once and for all. Unfortunately this did not happen.

The political instability and ethnic imbalance in Afghanistan after 9/11 marginalized the majority Pashtuns and pushed them into the Taliban fold, even though they were not ideological supporters of the Taliban. The blunder of inducting 80,000 troops of Tajiks into the Afghan national army further alienated the Pashtuns.

Meanwhile, Pakistan forcefully tackled the influx of al Qaeda into our tribal areas, capturing over 600 al Qaeda and Afghan Taliban leaders, some of them of very high value. We established 1,000 border checkposts and even offered to mine or fence off the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, but this never came to pass. The Afghan government, led by President Hamid Karzai, had no writ outside of Kabul, and the insufficient ground troops of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) allowed the Taliban to regroup. The 2004 invasion of Iraq shifted the focus and also contributed to the Taliban gaining ground in Afghanistan.

Al Qaeda terrorists who fled from Afghanistan came to Pakistan and settled initially in South Waziristan. Through successful intelligence and law-enforcement operations, we eliminated al Qaeda from our cities and destroyed their command, communication and propaganda centers. They fled to the adjoining North Waziristan, Bajur and Swat regions.

From 2004 onwards, we witnessed a gradual shift in the terrorist center of gravity. The Taliban started to re-emerge in Afghanistan and gradually gained a dominant role. They developed ties with the Taliban in Pakistan's tribal areas, especially in North and South Waziristan. With a grand strategy to destabilize the whole region, the Taliban and al Qaeda established links with extremists in Pakistani society on the one hand and with Muslim fundamentalists in India on the other. They pose a grave threat to South Asia and peace in the world.

We now have to deal with a complex situation. Casualties suffered by our soldiers in the line of duty will not go wasted only if we are able to fully secure our next generations from the menace of terrorism. The exit strategy from Afghanistan must not and cannot be time related. It has to ask, "What effect do we want to create on the ground?" We must eliminate al Qaeda, dominate the Taliban militarily, and establish a representative, legitimate government in Afghanistan.

The military must ensure that we deal with insurgents from a position of strength. The dwindling number of al Qaeda elements must be totally eliminated, and the Taliban have to be dominated militarily. We must strengthen border-control measures with all possible means to isolate the militants on the Afghanistan and Pakistan sides.

The Pakistan military must continue to act strongly. Operationally, we must raise substantially more forces from within the tribal groups and equip them with more tanks and guns. On the Afghan side, the U.S. and ISAF troops must be reinforced. All of this must be done in combination with raising additional Afghan National Army troops, with significant Pashtun representation. Exploiting tribal divisions, we should also raise local militias.

On the political front, we need an invigorated dialogue with all groups in Afghanistan, including the Taliban. Afghanistan for centuries has been governed loosely through a social covenant between all the ethnic groups, under a sovereign king. This structure is needed again to bring peace and harmony. We have to reach out to Pashtun tribes and others who do not ideologically align themselves with the Taliban or al Qaeda. I have always said that "all Talibans are Pashtun, but all Pashtuns are not Taliban." Pakistan and Saudi Arabia can play pivotal roles in facilitating this outreach.

Pakistan and Afghanistan were shortsightedly abandoned to their fate by the West in 1989, in spite of the fact that they were the ones who won a victory for the Free World against the Soviet Union. This abandonment lead to a sense of betrayal amongst the people of the region. For the sake of regional and world peace, let us not repeat the same mistake.

Mr. Musharraf is a former president (2001-2008) and chief of army staff (1998-2007) of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
 
I think the peace between india and PK has nothing to do with themselves, but China and USA.
 
India should buying more time and i dont think any peace process is possible.

Sorry my dear for being banned.. i was waiting for this day to tell you.. you think wrong..
This time around peace diplomacy is initiated by non other than indians.
 
leave it for some more time , the next generation of pakistan will decide , presently all roads to india were blocked ...
 
Sure we can talk or make deals amougst each other. Pakistan traded onions when India needed it to them and when we needed sugar India traded with us.

But as soon as Kashmir is mentioned, stand still happens and both sides throw a hissy fit.

You go to Pakistan you see a different map of Pakistan, you go to India you see a differnt map of India, both of them all shallow up Kashmir like it is theres.

You go on the World Map, Pakistan looks a dinosaur, India looks like its wearing a little kashmir hat and even China controls some of Kashmir.
 
A joint governence! This is a great solution to end the stalemate. This is also a recipe for disaster. What if the shadow of a government in pakistan collapses and some other nutjob siezes power? Will the deals hold good still? I think not.

The literature passed around by the islamist militants clearely outlines their agenda. They will not hesitate to attack rest of india.

For that matter, china is under threat too. Nothing satisfies these religious warmongerers besides an islamic system of governence on all areas under their control. To them, all non-believers are kufr and hence, worthless lives. They will not spare anyone....not even the "mighty" china.
 
Sure we can talk or make deals amougst each other. Pakistan traded onions when India needed it to them and when we needed sugar India traded with us.

But as soon as Kashmir is mentioned, stand still happens and both sides throw a hissy fit.

You go to Pakistan you see a different map of Pakistan, you go to India you see a differnt map of India, both of them all shallow up Kashmir like it is theres.

You go on the World Map, Pakistan looks a dinosaur, India looks like its wearing a little kashmir hat and even China controls some of Kashmir.

We shall ban trade of onions or any eatables.
Only finished goods shall be allowed to export and no special discounts to Indians.
 
We shall ban trade of onions or any eatables.
Only finished goods shall be allowed to export and no special discounts to Indians.

It's in India's favour to buy raw material from Pakistan and sell finished goods to Pakistan.
 
It's in India's favour to buy raw material from Pakistan and sell finished goods to Pakistan.

We are already importing finished goods from india and inidan goods have tax exemption.
Our local industry has to compete this unfair economic war of india.
India use Pakistan ministers to get special permissions while local manufacturers are left swimming in soup of costs and taxes.

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