Musharraf 'met rebel leader in Dhaka'

[TopCat]

It's the bloody President of Pakistan, I think a visit to the Jail would've been noticed by many.

He didn't move around without a full battalion of security guards.

Just local BS, notice the emphasis on "During Khalida Zia's rule".

Well he did not visit Jail. But a meeting was arranged in his hotel room. Its some idiot BNP who arranged all these and Mr. President the nice could not resist to meet that person. I dont dislike Chetia or Musharraf but arranging this kind of meeting in a state visit and with this high profile person is nothing but a dumb thing to do. But you can expect anything in this country when crooks are in power. These people even impeached their own president within 3 mos of his assumption to the post, only because he did not go to grave jiarat(zia's graveyard).

 

[Al-zakir]

Well he did not visit Jail. But a meeting was arranged in his hotel room. Its some idiot BNP who arranged all these and Mr. President the nice could not resist to meet that person. I dont dislike Chetia or Musharraf but arranging this kind of meeting in a state visit and with this high profile person is nothing but a dumb thing to do. But you can expect anything in this country when crooks are in power. These people even impeached their own president within 3 mos of his assumption to the post, only because he did not go to grave jiarat(zia's graveyard).

Where is the proof of such alligation. Show the proof before making it official. Just because low life gujju lover said it, doen't mean it based on fact. Why isn't fake syed not come up with the evidence when deelwar chalanged the merit of alligation? Why you guys always like to make judgment without any hard evidence? You people are mentali sick

 

[Stumper]

Where is the proof of such alligation you lunetic. Show the proof before making it official.

Zakir : Thats surprising. I thought this word never existed in your dictionary when you posted those accusation's of yours against India. Quite fascinating indeed.

Its nice to know you are working on your vocabulary.

 

[khabib]

Ashraf half Gujrati Awami minister has been no show since BNP asked to provide the proof to public. This is part of Indo-Awami digital deception.

Is he a Bangladeshi citizen even ? His wife is foreigner and if according to the diplomatic rule, a person with non bangladeshi spouse can not serve in the diplomatic corps how come a person with non bangadeshi citizen can serve in the cabinet

 

[khabib]

Musharraf was back stabber, remember Kargil. Now one more proof that ISI is using Bangladeshi radicals and Bangladesh as base to destabilize the South Asia.

Remember Farrakha ? Remember bangladesh between 1972-1975,
Those we call back stabbing. Now Awami league in BD - That is front stabbing.

 

[Adios Amigo]

BD should actively persue a roll with other nations of braking up the back bone of this monster ISI and its terror sponsored state.

You are most welcomed to do so, and for that get in line, behind the numerious countries who wants to do so.

If an indian wish such thing to happen, that is perfectly understandable for us, but what i dont understand here is why in good faith a Bangladeshi would like to wish for such a thing????? ISI might be monster for some or even worst then that, but what bad has it done to your country since your Independence??? seriously i am blank on this issue and if you have some credible information please do share it.

about the terror sponsoring state, i will presume,you are absolutely right(though you are totally wrong), but can u give me an example of the terror that was sponserd by Pakistan in Bangladesh since your independence???? and try not come up with "because other says so"
answer.

Lastly i would say brother, you have all the rights in the world to hate us, and we dont mind that,but please base your hatered upon valid reasons and grounds.And if you cannot find valid reasons for that,then try to see the world with a changed perspective, open up your heart and mind from the grudeges of the past.

BTW we wish bangladesh army and its intellegences forces along with its common masses grow strong.



adios

 

[TopCat]

You are most welcomed to do so, and for that get in line, behind the numerious countries who wants to do so.

If an indian wish such thing to happen, that is perfectly understandable for us, but what i dont understand here is why in good faith a Bangladeshi would like to wish for such a thing????? ISI might be monster for some or even worst then that, but what bad has it done to your country since your Independence??? seriously i am blank on this issue and if you have some credible information please do share it.

about the terror sponsoring state, i will presume,you are absolutely right(though you are totally wrong), but can u give me an example of the terror that was sponserd by Pakistan in Bangladesh since your independence???? and try not come up with "because other says so"
answer.

Lastly i would say brother, you have all the rights in the world to hate us, and we dont mind that,but please base your hatered upon valid reasons and grounds.And if you cannot find valid reasons for that,then try to see the world with a changed perspective, open up your heart and mind from the grudeges of the past.

BTW we wish bangladesh army and its intellegences forces along with its common masses grow strong.



adios

Bangladesh never officially blamed ISI for any wrong doing. But Bhutto did arrange specail aircraft and negotiated with Libiya to shelter Sheik Mujib's assasins. It was widely beleived that ISI was involved in that act. Second, all grenades used on Sheikh Hasina, Our former finance minister, British high comissioner are made of Pakistan Ordinance factory. Those grenades were imported by ULFA and some of them were stolen by BNP goons in collaboration with then home minister and a former gold smuggler Babor. Should I blame ISI for that? No I will not. This is us the loosers are to blame for that.
May be it was a honest mistake from ISI or may be they were not intended to hurt some of our big profiles but at the end it happend. That is the main reason the relationship with Pakistan with this government went to its lowest point since 1971. Even Sheikh mujibs government had better relatiohship with Pakistan than this government despite Pakistans enmity towards them.

 

[Adios Amigo]

Bangladesh never officially blamed ISI for any wrong doing. But Bhutto did arrange specail aircraft and negotiated with Libiya to shelter Sheik Mujib's assasins. It was widely beleived that ISI was involved in that act.

Dont have any idea if your claims are right or worng, but since for my lack of information about this historical event, i would belive in what you are saying is right,even if there are no proofs avaliable.

regarding Bhutto, whom many Pakistanis still believe as a great leader, in my openion was the most to be resposible for what happend back in 71, which led to the partition. If he would have accepted the mandate of Mujib and not wrongfully resisted his right of forming the government, things would have not gone that far. But power hungry bhutto did all wrong. To that extent things are understandable, but i dont know why would Bhutto have wanted Mujib assisnated after partition??? what good did it serve Bhutto??? Moreover why did libyia agree to step in this dirty affair???

Second, all grenades used on Sheikh Hasina, Our former finance minister, British high comissioner are made of Pakistan Ordinance factory. Those grenades were imported by ULFA and some of them were stolen by BNP goons in collaboration with then home minister and a former gold smuggler Babor. Should I blame ISI for that? No I will not. This is us the loosers are to blame for that.

Dont want to say anything about your domestic politics, but i believe it is as darty as ours, if not more. You may be right about the origion of the weapons but certainly it doesnt prove the involvement of our intelligence agency. Weapons can be imported through dozzens of illegeal channels and as an example Pakistan who is fighting the war on terror have caught weapons made up of almost any weapon producing country in world, but that doesnt mean that their agencies are working against us.
Here the basic point is the intent of the forgein country towards you, weather it is positive or negitive???? and then you can only get the feel regarding their involvement.

May be it was a honest mistake from ISI or may be they were not intended to hurt some of our big profiles but at the end it happend. That is the main reason the relationship with Pakistan with this government went to its lowest point since 1971. Even Sheikh mujibs government had better relatiohship with Pakistan than this government despite Pakistans enmity towards them.

May be you are right, but trust me we dont have any negitive fealings for you guys, nor we have some interests embeded with you that only by force or intellegence work one can work out. This low point in our relationship might be because of some mis-understandings or politics or pressures or whatever. But may Allah show us the right path and provide us with feelings of affection for each other and prohibit us from doing any harm to each other.



adios

 

[TaimiKhan]

Bangladesh never officially blamed ISI for any wrong doing. But Bhutto did arrange specail aircraft and negotiated with Libiya to shelter Sheik Mujib's assasins. It was widely beleived that ISI was involved in that act. Second, all grenades used on Sheikh Hasina, Our former finance minister, British high comissioner are made of Pakistan Ordinance factory. Those grenades were imported by ULFA and some of them were stolen by BNP goons in collaboration with then home minister and a former gold smuggler Babor. Should I blame ISI for that? No I will not. This is us the loosers are to blame for that.
May be it was a honest mistake from ISI or may be they were not intended to hurt some of our big profiles but at the end it happend. That is the main reason the relationship with Pakistan with this government went to its lowest point since 1971. Even Sheikh mujibs government had better relatiohship with Pakistan than this government despite Pakistans enmity towards them.

Any pictures of the markings of POF on those grenades ???

I can hardly believe POF would have sent out POF marked ammo to a terrorist organization. And even if something like that was supplied, it would be unmarked so that origin of the ammo can not be traced back.

A picture of the markings would be appreciated.

 

[idune]

Any pictures of the markings of POF on those grenades ???

I can hardly believe POF would have sent out POF marked ammo to a terrorist organization. And even if something like that was supplied, it would be unmarked so that origin of the ammo can not be traced back.

A picture of the markings would be appreciated.

If you ask these indian stooge syndicate to provide proof they just hide behind more deceptive answer. I have lately encountered few of these in this forum.

 

[Skies]

It was widely believed that ISI was involved in that act. Second, all grenades used on Sheikh Hasina, Our former finance minister, British high commissioner are made of Pakistan Ordinance factory.

I think you don't have any proof of it, right? Cos u said it is widely believed not sure!

 

[leonblack08]

Any pictures of the markings of POF on those grenades ???

I can hardly believe POF would have sent out POF marked ammo to a terrorist organization. And even if something like that was supplied, it would be unmarked so that origin of the ammo can not be traced back.

A picture of the markings would be appreciated.

The grenades were from Pakistan,but doesn't have to be from POF.

RAB sources say the name of the manufacturer was deleted from the grenades but they have been confirmed through examination that those were made in Pakistan.
The arges grenades are manufactured in Pakistan according to officials.
Here is one picture:



Full story:
:The Daily Star: Internet Edition

 

[TaimiKhan]

The grenades were from Pakistan,but doesn't have to be from POF.

RAB sources say the name of the manufacturer was deleted from the grenades but they have been confirmed through examination that those were made in Pakistan.
The arges grenades are manufactured in Pakistan according to officials.
Here is one picture:



Full story:
:The Daily Star: Internet Edition

here is a link showing the similar variant of Arges grenades being in service in the BD Army.

http://www.***************/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=218&Itemid=95

Arges grenades are not ONLY manufactured OR in use by PA, rather its made and used by others also through out the world.

Do remember POF makes licensed copies, meaning the original manufacturer is still there, who must have provided licensed manufacturing to others too.

POF is not the only manufacturer.

And for further information even Bangladesh Ordinance Factory also manufactures it as GREN-84 BD.

Hope this rests to place the involvement of POF in this matter.

 

[RobbieS]

here is a link showing the similar variant of Arges grenades being in service in the BD Army.

http://www.***************/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=218&Itemid=95

Arges grenades are not ONLY manufactured OR in use by PA, rather its made and used by others also through out the world.

Do remember POF makes licensed copies, meaning the original manufacturer is still there, who must have provided licensed manufacturing to others too.

POF is not the only manufacturer.

And for further information even Bangladesh Ordinance Factory also manufactures it as GREN-84 BD.

Hope this rests to place the involvement of POF in this matter.

Taimi sahb, isnt it too naive to ask for pictures of actual grenades used in the coup? And moreover to then absolve or incriminate Pak or any other country based on those so called pictures of actual grenades, what would you call it? Do you think pictures would be readily available like that?

 

[TopCat]

here is a link showing the similar variant of Arges grenades being in service in the BD Army.

http://www.***************/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=218&Itemid=95

Arges grenades are not ONLY manufactured OR in use by PA, rather its made and used by others also through out the world.

Do remember POF makes licensed copies, meaning the original manufacturer is still there, who must have provided licensed manufacturing to others too.

POF is not the only manufacturer.

And for further information even Bangladesh Ordinance Factory also manufactures it as GREN-84 BD.

Hope this rests to place the involvement of POF in this matter.

Ya arges grenades are made by different country even BD army produces and use them. But an expert can easily identify the origin of the grenades by thorough investigation. These grenades were produced in Pakistan Ordinance factory, thats the fact.