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The figures in GWh are giving a wrong impression. The production in GWh increased for the PPs remained operational for longer hours in order to meet demands which they could not make even with long stints.

"The country may plunge into energy crisis by the year 2007 due to rising electricity demand which enters into double digit figure following increasing sale of electrical and electronic appliances on lease finance, it is reliably learnt Thursday" - Energy Bulletin, July 2, 2004

I know these figures, from official sources :-

Ministry of Water and Power figures:

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Do you see a trend? I see one. From surplus to deficit in the times when the Commando ruled the roost in more than one ways.

Power Generation Capacity (by year) - This includes Private Power produced by Industries for own usage

Year Generation Capacity %age Increase

1998-99 : 15,934 MW
1999-00 : 16,578 MW 4.042
2000-01 : 17,668 MW 6.575
2001-02 : 17,953 MW 1.613
2002-03 : 17,953 MW 0.000
2003-04 : 19,522 MW 8.739 - Fertilizer Industry self production
2004-05 : 19.550 MW 0.143
2005-06 : 19.550 MW 0.000
2006-07 : 19.681 MW 0.671


All data based from figures acquired from NEPRA (National Electric Power Regulatory Authority)'s website including Annual Reports and State of Industry Reports.

Electricity Deficit started in the times of His Excellency, The Absconder Commando.

So you are saying PSO owes nothing to IPPs and there is no current payment $$$$ issues for buying fuel because of % of greed.

You hate dictators so we can see the bias for them and pro to elected dictators
 
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So you are saying PSO owes nothing to IPPs and there is no current payment $$$$ issues for buying fuel because of % of greed

Circular debt started developing in 2004. I will post links supporting my claim in the next days. Am very busy these days.

The claim made earlier that the previous government never defaulted on payments to IPPs is completely false and emanates from a love of the rulers, not facts.

You hate dictators so we can see the bias for them and pro to elected dictators

I have no hidden or obvious love for usurpers and self righteous totalitarians but neither do I approve of feudal oligarchs and morally and financially corrupt politicians.

The dream of a social welfare state has gone sour at the hands of opportunist generals, corrupt bureaucrats, feudal oligarchs and a sleeping public.

I try to remain objective and on this issue, the facts speak for themselves.
 
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All this is all the more amazing when one considers that just six years ago, Pakistan was on the verge of bankruptcy, with only a little more than $1bn in foreign exchange reserves and its stock market teetering at 1,000 points (worth $5 billion only) and foreign debt servicing at 65% of GDP. Our exports were at a pitiful $7.5 billion.

The once ever-declining rupee stood stable at around 60-61 to a dollar since Musharraf took over. Of the 184 member countries of the IMF, Pakistan’s rate of economic growth 7% is one of the best in the world. The Karachi stock market is now above 13,000 points and worth around $65 billion. Now foreign debt servicing has lowered to become 28%. Our exports increased to become $18 billion.

1. Pakistan economy was among the fastest growing economies in the world as its economy has reached the size of $170 billion in 2008 from a mere $70 billion in 1999. Pakistan attracted a record FDI of $8.4 billion in 2007.

2. 2007: National revenues had swelled from Rs 308 billion during 1988-99 to around Rs 800bn in 2008; and Federal Board of Revenue estimates now 2.8 million Income Tax payers.

Year Total CBR Direct Indirect Custom Sales Central excise

1998-99 308.5bn 110.4bn 198.1bn 65.3bn 72bn 60.8bn

2005-06 712.5bn 224.6bn 487.9bn 138.2bn 294.6bn 55bn

2008-09 810.3bn 305bn – 105.3bn 319.3bn 80.5bn (2008-09 Progressive)

3. Public sector development program (PSDP) had also grown from Rs 80 billion in 1999; to Rs 520 billion in 2007 and increased further to Rs 549.7 billion in 2008.

4. FACT of 2006-07: The rate of growth in Pakistan Large Scale Manufacturing (LSM) is at a 30-year high. Construction activity is at a 17-year high.

LSM: 1999-00 was 1.5% and 2004-05 was 19.9% and 2006-07 was 8.6% and 2007-8 is 5%.

5. FACT of 2007: The Infrastructure Industries Index, which measures the performance of Seven industries, i.e. Electricity generation, Natural gas, Crude oil, Petroleum products, Basic metal, Cement and coal, has recorded a 26.2 percent growth in Industrial sector of Pakistan.

6. FACT of 2006-07: Jan 14: Pakistan now has a total of 245,682 Educational institutions in all categories, including 164,579 (i.e. 67 per cent) in the public sector and 81,103 (i.e. 100 per cent) in the private sector, reports the National Education Census (NEC-2005). The census — jointly conducted by the Ministry of Education, the Academy of Educational Planning and Management (AEPAM) and the Federal Bureau of Statistics (FBS) — reveals that the number of private-sector institutions has increased from 36,096 in 1999-2000 to 81,103 in 2005, i.e. by 100 per cent. 45,007 Educational Institutions have increased in Musharraf Era.

7. FACT of 2006-07: Pakistan is 3rd in world in Banking profitability, a report of IMF said. On the IMF chart, in late 2006, Pakistan’s banking profitability is on third position after Colombia and Venezuela. On the IMF chart India is on 36th position and China is on 40th position. Pakistan’s Banking sector turned profitable in 2002. Their profits continued to rise for the next five years and peaked to Rs 84.1 ($1.1 billion) billion in 2006. Pakistan’s Financial Services

8. 11 May 2009: By producing 7.746 tonnes of gold during the last five years – 2004 to 2008 – Pakistan has joined the ranks of gold producing countries. According to the data with the Saindak Metal Limited – during the last five years – Pakistan has produced 86,013 tonnes of copper, 7.746 tonne gold and 11.046 tonne silver, besides the production of 14,482 tonnes of magnetite concentrate (iron), bringing in a total of $633.573 million.

9. In 1999 what we earned as GDP: we used to give away 64.1 % as foreign debt and liabilities. Now in 2006, what we earn as GDP: we give ONLY 28.3 % as foreign debt and liabilities. Now we are SAVING 35 % of Our GDP for economic growth.

External debt & liabilities (EDL):

1988 – $ 18 billion

1990 – $ 20 billion

1999 – $ 39 billion

2007 – $ 40.17 billion

2008 – $ 45 billion

2009 – $ 50 billion



10. According to Economic Survey 2005. Poverty in Pakistan in 2001 was 34.46%. And, now after 7 years of Musharraf; Poverty in 2005 was 23.9%. Poverty DECREASED by 10.56%. Overall, 12 million people have been pushed out of Poverty in 2001 -2005!

11. 2007: Literacy rate in Pakistan has increased from 45% (in 2002) to 53% (in 2005). And, Education now receives 4% of GDP and English has been introduced as compulsory subject from grade 1.

12. 12-4-07: The IT industry, which was virtually non-existent seven years ago, has grown to be worth $2 billion of which $1 billion is export related. It rregistered a 50% growth. 55 foreign IT companies have already entered the market. Now the sector employed 90,000 professionals.

13. 30-1-08: The government has decided to set up a modern hospital cum Medical University in collaboration with the Harvard Medical International, USA, at a cost of Rs 18 billion. The university will be built at the Defence Housing Authority (DHA), Islamabad. A total of 2,500 students will be taught at the graduate level, while additional 600 seats will be available for postgraduate research courses.

14. Nov 2006: President Musharraf says that Pakistan will set up Nine Engineering World Class Science and Technology Federal Universities by 2008 with foreign assistance. He said the institutions of higher learning would be established in collaboration with Italy, South Korea, Japan, France, Sweden, Netherlands, Germany, Austria and China. The Cost of building these Foreign Universities will be above Rs 96.5 billion.

The Vice Chancellors, Heads of department, Professors and Faculty of the planned university will be from these Foreign Universities; while the Examination system, Quality assurance followed and the Degree awarded will also be from these Foreign Universities.

15. Government has approved to give at least 4% of GDP to Education in 2007 budget.

16. In 1999-2000 there were 31 Public Universities. Now 2005-2006 there are 49 Public Universities. HEC setup 47 new Universities.

a) Air University (established 2002)

b) Institute of Space technology, ISB (established 2002)

c) Sardar Bahadur Khan Women University, Quetta (established 2004)

d) University of Science & Technology, Bannu (established 2005)

e) University of Hazara (founded 2002)

f) Malakand university, Chakdara (established 2002)

g) Karakurum International university, Gilgit (established 2002)

h) University of Gujrat (established 2004)

i) Virtual University of Pak, Lahore (established 2002)

j) Sarhad University of IT, Peshawar (established 2001)

k) National Law University, ISB (2007)

l) Media University, ISB (2007)

m) University of Education, Lahore (2002)

n) Lasbella University of Marine Sciences, Baluchistan (2005)

o) Baluchistan University of IT & Management, Quetta (2002), etc.

17. 6-member delegation of Australian Department of Education, Science & Technology and AusAID, is visited Pakistan on the request of PM Shaukat Aziz to help Pakistan in its efforts to realign its TVET (Technical and Vocational Education and Training) according to the market needs. Chairman NAVTEC Altaf Saleem informed the delegation about NAVTEC plans to increase the capacity to train one million people annually by 2010 from the present annual capacity of 320,000.

18. Defense Exports of Pakistan have crossed the $200 million mark as the country’s robust Defense manufacturing industry continues to expand. This was disclosed by Major General Syed Absar Hussain, Director General, Defense Export Promotion Organization; after IDEAS 2006 Karachi . Defense Industry UAV.

19. President Musharraf inaugurated an over Rs. 1.36 billion 18 Mega Watt Naltar hydro power project. The project, completed in four years at Naltar near Gilgit.

20. Pakistan is now in Large-scale Nuclear expansion. The reactor under construction… could produce over 200kg of weapons-grade plutonium per year, assuming it operates at full power for a modest 220 days per year. At 4 to 5 kilograms of plutonium per weapon, this stock would allow the production of 40-50 Nuclear weapons a year,” the report said.

21. The Karachi Port Trust (KPT) and Hutchison Port Holdings (HPH) of Hong Kong will sign a concession agreement tomorrow for setting up a US$1 billion Deep-water container port, the first in Pakistan. KPT will invest $450 million for infrastructure development for the project. HPH will invest $557 million. In the first phase, a 1,500m quay wall will be built with a designed dept of 18m.

22. GILGIT: President Musharraf inaugurated the dry port in the border town of Sust, 200km north of Gilgit. The Dry port, a Pakistan-China joint venture, was built in 2004 at a cost of Rs90 million. It is 10,000-foot high Sust Dry Port.

23. Dec 2006: President Musharraf said many canals, including the Thal and Raini canals, were being constructed for better utilization of the water available. He said Rs66 billion was being spent on brick-lining of 87,000 canals in the country, adding that 6,000 new canals would be brick-lined next year.

24. The Private Power Infrastructure Board (PPIB) has approved expansion of Tarbela dam power project that would generate 960 MW costing $500 million.

25. President Musharraf Thursday inaugurated the Mirani Dam. Mirani Dam in Kech area of Mekran district with a catchment area of 12,000 square kilometre has been built in four years at a cost of Rs6 billion that includes Rs1.5 billion in compensation to the affected people. It will have a storage capacity of over 300,000 million acre feet of water.

26. Gomal Zam Dam: This project started Aug 2002 and is expected to be completed early 2008. It is located in the Damaan in NWFP. It is 437 feet high and will irrigate about 163,000 acres of land. The total costs amounts to Rs. 12 billion. Having a gross storage of 1.14 MAF. It will produce 17.4 MW of electricity.

27. Mushrraf says the government is constructing the Rs40 billion Katchi Canal and Punjab had been gracious to provide land for its 350 kilometre stretch that will pass through the province.

28. The Economic Coordination Committee decided to set up a $2-billion mega Oil refinery at Khalifa Point in district Hub, Balochistan. The refinery, commissioned by 2010, would have a maximum refining capacity of 13 million tons of petroleum products – higher than the country’s total existing capacity of 12.8 million tons.

29. Pakistan Steel Mills Corporation (PSMC) during the quarter July-Sept 2007 recorded the highest ever-sales figure of Rs 9.3012 billion.

30. The Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) sector of Pakistan has attracted over Rs 70 billion investments during the last five years as a result of liberal and encouraging policies of the government. Presently, some 1,765 CNG stations are operating in the country, in 85 cities and towns, and 1000 more would be setup in the next three years. It has provided employment to 30,000 people in the country.

31. The Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan (SECP) has registered 1,135 companies during the first quarter (July-September 2007). With the new registrations the total number of registered companies with SECP as on September 30 has reached 50,125.

32. Telecom sector has attracted an investment of $ 9 billion in last three years. It created of 80,000 jobs directly and 500,000 jobs indirectly.

33. Corrupt & Incompetent Nawaz Sharif made one motorway M2 (Lahore – Islamabad). Under Musharraf 6 Motorways completed or under construction: Pakistan Motorways & Highways.

M1 (Islamabad to Peshawar) – (Rs.13 bn) – [155 km] – (started 2003 – Completed Oct 2007)

M3 (Pindi to Faisalabad) – (Rs.5.6 bn) – [53 km] – (started 2002 – Completed 2004)

M8 (Gwadar to Ratodero) – [1072 km] – (started 2004 – will complete 2009)

M9 (Karachi to Hyderabad) – (Rs.6.3 bn) – [136 km] – (

M10 (Karachi Northern bypass) – (Rs 3.5 bn) – [56 km] – (completed 2007)

M11 (Lahore to Sialkot) – (Rs.23 bn) -[101 km] – (started 2006 – under construction)

34. Under Musharraf various Highways under construction throughout the country. Including N5, N-25, N-35, N-45, N-50, N-55, N-65, N-70, N-75, N-80, S-1, etc.

35. General Pervez Musharraf inaugurated the Makran Coastal Highway (N-10) project in August 2001, consisting of Karachi-Gwadar, Pasni-Gwadar, and Ormara-Liari (Balochistan) Highways. The Liari-Ormara Highway costed Rs3.9 billion and Pasni-Gwadar Highway Rs2.8 billion respectively. The total length of Makran Coastal Highway is 533 kilometers.”

36. 2-12-07: Sialkot International Airport Limited (SIAL) completed. The 1,002-acre airport is 13 km west of Sialkot and is linked by a road to Gujranwala, Wazirabad, Gujrat, Narowal, the Export Processing Zone (EPZ) and the Sialkot Dry Port Trust.

37. Ghandara International Airport (Islamabad) the first-ever green-field airport being built at a cost of $400 million; with a renowned international consultant, Louis Berger Group of USA. President Musharraf laid the foundation stone of the project on April 7, 2007 and will be completed by Dec 2010. Its total area is 3700 acres (15 km²).

38. Major Industrial estates are being developed under Musharraf’s vision: M3 Industrial estate, Sundar Industrial estate, Chakri Industrial, Port Qasim Industrial estate, etc.

39. Oct 2007: In the current fiscal year the Mining and Quarrying sector has registered a growth rate of 5.6 percent. Increased growth was propelled by strong growths recorded in magnetite (30 percent), dolomite (26.1 percent), Limestone (25.2 percent) and chromites.

40. The government has already started various initiatives, to discover and develop world-class copper-gold deposits in Chagai Baluchistan; by Australian Firms that would fetch $500 million to $600 million per year.

41. Major reserves of COPPER & GOLD in Baluchistan’s Rekodiq area have been discovered in early 2006. It has ranked Rekodiq among the world’s top seven copper reserves. The Rekodiq mining area has proven estimated reserves of 2 billion tons of copper and 20 million ounces of gold. According to the current market price, the value of the deposits has been estimated at about $65 billion, which would generate thousands of jobs.

42. Executive Committee of National Economic Council (ECNEC) on Wednesday approved 45 developmental projects in its meeting, including six revised projects with a total cost of Rs 154.1 billion with a foreign exchange component (FEC) of Rs 36.8 billion.

43. Rs 9.8 billion have been allocated for 91 different mega projects at Public Sector Universities across the province, said Sindh Governor Dr Ishrat-ul-Ebad Khan.

44. Oct 2007: A fully functional TMS (Tax Management System), including profiling, withholding, return/payment filing, rectification, refunds, audit, and legal tracking is scheduled to be operational by 2007 in Pakistan, to process the tax year 2007 returns, according to World Bank.

45. The government is providing Sui Gas facility to areas of South Punjab at a cost of Rs 1.311 billion. A total of 1,138 kilometre gas pipeline is being laid. The districts benefiting from these schemes mainly include Multan, Khanewal, Bahawalnagar, Rajanpur, DG Khan, Vehari and Muzaffargarh.

46. The KHI city government’s rehabilitation of Industrial zones and improvement plan for all those four industrial zones, of the city needs to be completed in 7-8 months. Projects worth Rs 2.5 billion and beautification Rs 4.5 billion.

47. 27-11-07: Pakistan Navy Ship Zarrar, the first of Multi-Role Tactical Platform (MRTP-33), was commissioned into Pakistan Navy at a ceremony at PN Dockyard.

48. 29-12-07: City Nazim Mustafa Kamal said the construction work of 47-storey IT Tower in the vicinity of Civic Center at a cost of $200m would start soon. Around 40,000 youth would get employment in the IT Tower. It will have 10,000 call centers of which 6,000 have been booked so far.

49. The President approved the project of laying of 940-kilometre-long “standard gauge” Railway track between Gwadar and Quetta that would cost Rs 75 billion. A German firm won the contract.

50. To increase the income of Farmers, the Government is investing Rs7.80 billion under which a Food Security Program will be launched. Initially it will be launched in 1,000 villages. He said Rs 3.60 billion would be invested in live-stocks and dairy sectors. About 1,200 model dairy farms and 2,950 cattle breeding farms will be established under this investment.

51. Pakistan will launch a Self-controlled Remote Sensing Satellite System (RSSS) at a cost of Rs19.3 billion to ensure strategic and unconditional supply of satellite remote sensing data for any part of the globe over the year. SUPARCO will implement it over a period of six years. President Musharraf has approved the project in principle.

52. Governor inaugurated the DUHS Medical Research City with Dow Diagnostic Reference and Research Laboratories and Jinnah Genome Centre as its important components. He also laid the foundation stone for a library and sports complex which houses different constituent institutions of the university.

53. President Musharraf also inaugurated a 50-bed state-of-the-art Workers Welfare Fund Kidney Center. The first-ever kidney center in Baluchistan, constructed on 7.5 acres at a cost of Rs385 million and having the diagnostic, dialysis, surgical and lab facilities will help the people of this area.

54. Karachi: The building of the 50-bed Kidney Centre in Landhi has been completed. Minister Muhammad Adil Siddiqui . He said that the building of this centre had been built at a cost of Rs70 million.

55. CM Pervaiz Elahi inaugurated Pakistan’s first Software technology park (STP) on Ferozpur Road to be implemented by Punjab IT Board (PITB). The Rs 1.5 billion project is set over area of 32 kanals; will be completed in 12 months and is expected to create direct 10,000 jobs and generate economic activity of Rs 9 billion per year.

56. In what is considered a major leap for Pakistan, a Polytechnic Institute is being established to produce skilled workforce that will rescue the manufacturing industry from the clutches of foreign dependence. Being built in Korangi at a cost of Rs450 million, this government-funded institute will start operating in January 2007 and prepare 500 workers by the end of first year, besides producing 22 different types of dies and moulds for aviation, telecom, pharmaceutical and other industries. Experts from Germany, Japan and Thailand assisted in developing curriculum.

57. Police Act 1861 replaced by Police Order 2002 after 141 years. Police force divided into three separate wings: Watch and ward, Investigation and Prosecution.

58. Federal Minister for Commerce in order to modernize tobacco farming in the country; is setting up a state-of-the-art Tobacco Research Center in Bunner. Annually 8 million kilograms of Virginia tobacco (fine quality), worth Rs 9.2 billion is cultivated in Bunner. Under construction.

59. The government has formed “Pakistan Gems and Jewellery Development Company (PGJDC)” with a cost of Rs 1.4 billion, to increase the export of gem and Jewellery from $25 million to $1.5 billion by 2017.

60. In 1999, Pakistanis could only afford to buy a total of 32,461 locally assembled Cars. The latest annual figure stands at 115,000. Currently, there are 1.3 million cars on Pakistani roads as opposed to 815,000 cars some five years ago; a 60 percent jump in car ownership.

61. In 1999, a total of 94,881 new Motorcycles were sold in Pakistan. In 2005, Pakistanis bought or leased some 500,000 new motorcycles.

62. ISB: To convert the Karachi Fisheries Harbour Authority (KFHA) in a style of Sydney Fish Market, the government proposes an action plan worth $10 million so as to make the KFHA a profitable authority. Estimated, Pakistan has a fish and seafood industry worth $1.2 billion. Exports alone are worth nearly $200 million per annum. More than 0.8 million people rely directly or indirectly on the industry for their livelihood.

63. FACT: Pakistan globally ranks 10th among the countries which were among the most active in perusing pro-business policies. A report “Doing Business in 2006″ co-sponsored by World Bank and International Finance Corporation (IFC).
 
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I try to remain objective and on this issue, the facts speak for themselves.

very true indeed musharraf have again and again have told its people about the problem of power but still who would listen to a dictator well your post just answered power crisis as well with crumbling economy at that time the government in 1999 were paying the IPPs extra for producing extra 2000 megawatt of power supply which even more worsen the burden on the government and with inadequate distribution the country then failed to stop load shading even with 2000MW surplus idea was simple instead of removing that surplus cant we improve the distribution pattern and even the demand. so here it goes the 2000 villages were given with electricity and not forget increadible pace of increasing industries.Well later on in 2004 it was devastating demand was shooting high as oppose to supply but you cant say musharraf gov did nothing they build new dams and power generation plant but these projects are not that you think one time and another instance you have them all running it takes time.but poor luck musharaf gov removed by total corrupted gov in 2008 pakistan was fully capable to fulfill its energy need but the gov was not affective enough or bankrupt by just one year for not able to pay IPPs money.
well you can still think my post as :blah::blah: and continue to still sit back at home and curse the country and you will see the next 8 years with these same politicians with this same corruption and same pointing and blaming.
 
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if Musharaf accomplished so much then why do people in Pakistan hate him so much? he is even afraif of coming back to his own country

Gen. Musharraf will return toPakistan very soon insha-Allah, it is not a matter of if but when.

PML-Q the, party which supported Gen. Musharraf, won seats in all of our four provinces and was able to win seat in the most recent elections (Gilgit-Baltistan assembly) so if there are people who dislike Gen. Musharraf then there are also those who strongly support Gen. Musharraf.
 
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I have no hidden or obvious love for usurpers and self righteous totalitarians but neither do I approve of feudal oligarchs and morally and financially corrupt politicians.

You do support Imran Khan which means that you do support self righteous totalitarians. I have heard from quite a few people that IK doesnt allow people to talk in meetings and it seems to be true because it is always him giving statements in media.
 
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You do support Imran Khan which means that you do support self righteous totalitarians. I have heard from quite a few people that IK doesnt allow people to talk in meetings and it seems to be true because it is always him giving statements in media.

I left PTI more than an year ago. It is a near totalitarian party where there is no room for leftists views. I'm a staunch socialist.

Gen. Musharraf will return toPakistan very soon insha-Allah, it is not a matter of if but when.

Just come now. It's been an year since he's been since "coming soon".
 
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I am astonuished that y ppl support mushy

thogh mainly ppl here are military enthusiast but they should be patriot to pakistan

wrong is wrong and rite is right

and if some one looted the billion dollars and then give cherity from it he cant be a good guy
mushy hijacked the govt selected one and
he did against constitution so y he is hero in your eyes
a law breaker and he is the one of all who took oth in kakul that he would serve to make safe pak constitution from the any thing
and he broke his own pledge
 
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what choices we have other than Musharraf...? Zardari, Nawaz, Chaudhari, Altaf, Imran khan, Fazl-ur-Rehman, etc..? do you think any of them is better than Musharraf..? well we can say a bit about Imran Khan, just because he isn't yet tested. All the rest of ppl are just bunch or criminals.. The thing is, we are not going to have Muhammad Ali Jinnah again :( so it will be better if we can find a better person..

In the past, all the major developments are done in Military rule. Politicians were always failed to give best to public. So i think Musharraf was 100 times better than any of these so-called leaders. though he did few wrong acts, but who didn't ?
 
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funny thing is people dont change there perception once they are told of something is bad. Before 2007 the popularity of musharraf was more than any other one. but due to constant bashing of media have twisted there minds to think that musharraf was worse thing ever happens but you know what even funnier they have nothing to back up there claims against musharraf nor do they have enough time to think about what musharraf have done in past 6 years and what others did and are doing for past 60 years.
@zavis musharraf didnt break any promise i felt more secure when he was in power. About breaking of constitution i think this is the best argument you got well i have told that it was bloodless coup and there were no riots by people since they were fed up by the on going corruption and worry some country position at that time.He was the savior of pakistan
 
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funny thing is people dont change there perception once they are told of something is bad. Before 2007 the popularity of musharraf was more than any other one. but due to constant bashing of media have twisted there minds to think that musharraf was worse thing ever happens but you know what even funnier they have nothing to back up there claims against musharraf nor do they have enough time to think about what musharraf have done in past 6 years and what others did and are doing for past 60 years.
@zavis musharraf didnt break any promise i felt more secure when he was in power. About breaking of constitution i think this is the best argument you got well i have told that it was bloodless coup and there were no riots by people since they were fed up by the on going corruption and worry some country position at that time.He was the savior of pakistan
whenever army takes over its bloodless dude... so why not appoint kiyani as the PM as well??? Zia took over it was bloodless... so was yahya's!!!!

progress yes!!! but on cost of what... drone attacks... selling our own citizens... becoming america's pet... bomb blasts... taliban turning against us... civil war within the country... taking U turn on kashmir issue.... blood of innocents... do you still think its worth it.. i bet you do :)
 
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I left PTI more than an year ago. It is a near totalitarian party where there is no room for leftists views. I'm a staunch socialist.

Smart move!

Hopefully a date will be announced soon.
 
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drone attacks... selling our own citizens... becoming america's pet... bomb blasts... taliban turning against us... civil war within the country... taking U turn on kashmir issue.... blood of innocents

When are you going to wake up?? All of these have been done in Nawaz Sharif's govt and BB's govt as well.

Aimal Kansal was handed over by the Nawaz Sharif govt.

Laser guided missiles landed in Pakistan when Nawaz Sharif was PM.

There are more bomb blasts in the last two years.

What Kashmir issue?? BB gave the list of spies and operatives to the Indian govt.

Karachi faced the worst form of state sponsered terrorism in mid 90s by Nawaz Sharif, BB and MQM.

What the hell is your problem mate? Are you one of those Lal Masjid guys?? You are able to see innocent blood of these bloody Talibans but you are not able to see the blood of my brothers in the Pindi mosque!!

Do you go blind when these terrorists wave their weapons and attack innocent civilians in Peshawer??

You are worried about Taliban turning agianst us ... those ungrateful a**holes should have towed our lines from day one!

BB created them and Nawaz Sharif groomed them and spoiled them, period!!

Pakistan was not created for fanatics like Talibans! Pakistan was created so that Muslims can live, prosper and practice Islam and no-Muslims could live with equal rights.

Do you think Taliban even understand Islam???
 
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whenever army takes over its bloodless dude... so why not appoint kiyani as the PM as well??? Zia took over it was bloodless... so was yahya's!!!!

progress yes!!! but on cost of what... drone attacks... selling our own citizens... becoming america's pet... bomb blasts... taliban turning against us... civil war within the country... taking U turn on kashmir issue.... blood of innocents... do you still think its worth it.. i bet you do :)
so you have problem of army taking control good because i also have one but remember also it was the dictator which have given you more freedom than others and it was during his tenure the election were held as transparent as ever!
The problems you discuss it is still there after even taken over by democratic gov and even worsen the situation "selling your own citizen"dude where did you get that"civil war within pakistan" it is not civil war we are fighting against enemies against taliban. "kashmir" kashmir issue was handled more peacefully at his time instead of doing kargil war now thats what i call u turn."blood of innocence" maybe for u but definatly not for me.things were better at his time.
 
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