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Musharraf Era was best in 63-year history of Pakistan: Dr. Salman Shah

Musharraf has caused Pakistan soooo much humiliation, it's not even funny, really.

1. Kargil
2. WOT, Drone Attacks
3. Lal Masjid
4. Hiding Bin Laden
5. Need I go on?

If he was such a good person, he would have came back to Pakistan, and would not have to fear for his life. Even the courts don't like him anymore.
 
The global WOT could not have been executed without Musharraf. He was a dirty little pawn.

The after-effects of his poisonous decisions are still making their way through Pakistan's bloodstream.

What would have any other politician done?

Heck, we didn't even have JF-17, F-16s, BVRs and god knows we were very weak. What he did was in supreme interest of the country.
 
What would have any other politician done?

Heck, we didn't even have JF-17, F-16s, BVRs and god knows we were very weak. What he did was in supreme interest of the country.

It was in the supreme interest of himself. Do you really think that the U.S. would have declared war on Pakistan after 9/11? Is there any good reason as to why they would do that? Pakistan is much weaker today than it was in 2001. Having JF-17s will not do us any good against a superpower. And yes, we did have F-16s back then. Get your facts straight. And please remove that disgusting avatar, it hurts my eyes.

Musharraf was a traitor. He should be hanged.
 
It was in the supreme interest of himself. Do you really think that the U.S. would have declared war on Pakistan after 9/11? Is there any good reason as to why they would do that? Pakistan is much weaker today than it was in 2001. Having JF-17s will not do us any good against a superpower. And yes, we did have F-16s back then. Get your facts straight. And please remove that disgusting avatar, it hurts my eyes.

Musharraf was a traitor. He should be hanged.

It Hurts All the Insane and Pakistan's Ill-Wishers. You're not the only one. Good to hear though.
 
Hehe, you're acting as if as though we had better options? :D

Of course we did. What was the rationale in investing on Bahria Town, Eden Villas, type mega housing schemes? I think most of the money we got from the US is invested in concrete, with half paid houses and thus everything is just stuck.

No work was done generating money, stabilizing industry through securing power generation, Gwadar went no where.

Some decisions were good, like improving banking sector so that got Pakistanis to send in money through legal channels instead of hundi and hawala but then more credit goes to the Pakistanis who are actually sending the money.

Nothing really impressive work was done for the Doctor sahab to describe it as the "best era". I would call it "slightly less horrible than it usually is episode"
 
Of course we did. What was the rationale in investing on Bahria Town, Eden Villas, type mega housing schemes? I think most of the money we got from the US is invested in concrete, with half paid houses and thus everything is just stuck.

No work was done generating money, stabilizing industry through securing power generation, Gwadar went no where.

Some decisions were good, like improving banking sector so that got Pakistanis to send in money through legal channels instead of hundi and hawala but then more credit goes to the Pakistanis who are actually sending the money.

Nothing really impressive work was done for the Doctor sahab to describe it as the "best era". I would call it "slightly less horrible than it usually is episode"


Clearly you have no idea how the economy works. Either that or deliberately ignoring facts. GDP = Government spending + FDI + consumer spending + exports - imports to simplify it for you. Even you would agree aid that we got from the US during that time was mere peanuts.

Bahria Town alone created 21,000 direct jobs that means government gets more revenue/tax as a result, people spend more and GDP grows. Half paid houses? I don't think so. Even today they are expanding all over Pakistan and from what I've heard received over whelming response from customers. This is just one company. Look at all other sectors telecom, media, construction, education and etc.
 
Clearly you have no idea how the economy works. Either that or deliberately ignoring facts. GDP = Government spending + FDI + consumer spending + exports - imports to simplify it for you. Even you would agree aid that we got from the US during that time was mere peanuts.

Bahria Town alone created 21,000 direct jobs that means government gets more revenue/tax as a result, people spend more and GDP grows. Half paid houses? I don't think so. Even today they are expanding all over Pakistan and from what I've heard received over whelming response from customers. This is just one company. Look at all other sectors telecom, media, construction, education and etc.

If Musharraf picked you up from the streets of Pakistan and sold you for a couple of dollars, you wouldn't be supporting him so enthusiastically. :lol:

And yes, he's done it. And I don't think you'll like Guantanamo.
 
It Hurts All the Insane and Pakistan's Ill-Wishers. You're not the only one. Good to hear though.

Judging from your stupid statement, I'm guessing you're a big fan of Drone Attacks. :tongue:
Connect the dots, big boy.
 
If Musharraf picked you up from the streets of Pakistan and sold you for a couple of dollars, you wouldn't be supporting him so enthusiastically. :lol:

And yes, he's done it. And I don't think you'll like Guantanamo.

I can differentiate fact from fiction.

Judging from your stupid statement, I'm guessing you're a big fan of Drone Attacks. :tongue:
Connect the dots, big boy.

There were only a few drone strikes in 9 years compare that with today.
 
LMAO, i knew z9-ec would be here... the only guy here with Musharraf saluting avatar...:rofl:Got nothing to prove home boy
 
LMAO, i knew z9-ec would be here... the only guy here with Musharraf saluting avatar...:rofl:Got nothing to prove home boy

I see that you are a fan of Ayub Khan. But, do you know that he failed to act on China's invitation to attack Kashmir in 1962. We never had such a golden opportunity to free Kashmir and only God knows when again we will have another one like that again.

When Pakistani scientists tried to convince him for the need of a nuclear weapon, he declined saying if the need arises we will procure one from the US.:what::bad:

Compare that with Musharraf, who strengthened Pakistan's nuclear program, a nuclear Command and Control authority was created which is still headed by one the 'Musharraf Boys'; Lt Gen (retd) Khalid Ahmed Kidwai.

A Bush administration official told the Times in 2008: "Every morning I could see what was happening inside the Soviet nuclear system. I've never had a morning when I could inside Pakistan's."

All the delivery systems were consolidated during Musharraf era: air, land and sea.

As far as Kashmir cause is concerned, Musharraf brought it back to the eyes of the world by Kargil war. What was a winning situation for Pakistan was lost when Nawaz Sharif went to Washington wagging his tail.

If you search the web, only persons exaggerating the Kargil war losses are Nawaz Sharif, Ziauddin Butt, anti-Musharraf ex-army personnel and the enemies of Pakistan whose job is to spread disinformation.

@Kas786: Have you seen any single grave of a woman or a child died in Lal Masjid raid?
All the persons who died there were armed militants and pawns of foreign powers (knowingly or unknowingly)!
 
He was good with economy and developments, but bad on national policies like Lal Masjid operation should have never happened.
 
I see that you are a fan of Ayub Khan. But, do you know that he failed to act on China's invitation to attack Kashmir in 1962. We never had such a golden opportunity to free Kashmir and only God knows when again we will have another one like that again.

When Pakistani scientists tried to convince him for the need of a nuclear weapon, he declined saying if the need arises we will procure one from the US.:what::bad:

Compare that with Musharraf, who strengthened Pakistan's nuclear program, a nuclear Command and Control authority was created which is still headed by one the 'Musharraf Boys'; Lt Gen (retd) Khalid Ahmed Kidwai.

A Bush administration official told the Times in 2008: "Every morning I could see what was happening inside the Soviet nuclear system. I've never had a morning when I could inside Pakistan's."

All the delivery systems were consolidated during Musharraf era: air, land and sea.

As far as Kashmir cause is concerned, Musharraf brought it back to the eyes of the world by Kargil war. What was a winning situation for Pakistan was lost when Nawaz Sharif went to Washington wagging his tail.

If you search the web, only persons exaggerating the Kargil war losses are Nawaz Sharif, Ziauddin Butt, anti-Musharraf ex-army personnel and the enemies of Pakistan whose job is to spread disinformation.

@Kas786: Have you seen any single grave of a woman or a child died in Lal Masjid raid?
All the persons who died there were armed militants and pawns of foreign powers (knowingly or unknowingly)!

I agree with one point. We missed Kashmir golden opportunity during Ayub's time ... That is something i regret....

Just in case if you are wondering, the Kashmir issue was solved between Nawaz Sharif and Vajpai. I'm not a supporter of Sharrifs however, this was one good cause... This was as follows:
Kashmir Valley and Gilgit-Baltistan --- Pakistan
Jammu, Ladakh, and Hindu dominated areas --- India

If you are a Musharraf supporter, then maybe you should highlight why he touched the Kargil issue to avoid that agreement and why didn't do anything after coup to solve Kashmir?
Great, he just made Pak Army impotent... by using jihadis, who eventually died in thousands...

By the way, Musharraf ordered the use of phosphorus bombs on all masjid. Does any country uses that on its own civilians?

Yup, his Prime Minister was Shaukeet Aziz, an imported prime minster, a person who probably never comes to Pakistan.
What the heck was he doing during lal masjid?=== wasn't he out to eat kulfi or paan?
As written in Musharraf' line of fire, he accepted the fact that we earned money by giving people to the U.S. First of all, that shouldn't have had happen. Where is your nationalism? If you are a nationalistic leader, the you would assume responsibility for the protection of your people.
Secondly, has that money put to good use in Pakistan? Seems like it was used for personal investments...

Advanced weapons are not necessarily needed to fight war. Look how wee defeated India in 1965. People gave their lives by sitting under Indian tanks. So yeah imo, weapons should be secondary. We a'int gonna fight with India, forget that... Use logic to save Pakistan first. When the country collapses on its own, it will start selling Nuclear weapons like North Korea.

The time has come, where no would actually use Nuclear weapons. It would be suicide for Pakistan if we drop bombs next door. All the damn radiation will kill us too, just use your logic.
LMAO @ you, when you say that Musharraf was keeping land, air, and sea well. If god forbid there is war, will Karachi as a capital survive? lol, Indians always gets us. Wheather its from blockade or from surrounding us from quantity. Don't forget 1971...

The nuclear program is drama and their to show our ego. Is getting most number of nuclear bombs better than getting most number of people educated?

Ayub may be was an american puppet, however, he changed his attitude against them. Read his book.
His change in love for Pakistan got him killed. In fact, all army generals like the U.S, at some point, i'm even going to say General kayani is on the same boat as well. His change regarding U.S is more or less like the Ayub now.

Did Musharraf and Zia-ul Haq have any regrets ???

Learn from Ayub Khan. Economic prosperity should be on our first thing in mind. Without prosperity, we cannot possibly get good weapons, even if we have to...

Don't forget that Islamabad became a capital city, a place a lot better than Karachi. Its perfect strategically, and perfect showing Pakistan rich and green to improve our image.
Most of the damns we have today are from Ayub's era. What did Musharraf do?

Your whole country was moving along industrial revolution during Ayub years.
Were there terrorist organizations like MQM, Jamaat e-islami, Taliban, Al-Qaeda?
Look how he changed PIA, Railroad, Modernization of Agriculture, exports, etc...
He even was convinced about Abdus Salam (the nonbel piece prize winner) and succeeded him to lead Pakistan's Space Agency
IMO, Ayub's model was like Turkey, Malaysia, Singapore. They are successful if you take a look at them now.
He even fought in the 1971 war as a general. Did Mushy and Zia volunteer to give life?

Musharraf escaped from Army during 1965 war and went to Karachi to hide. Is this your brave leader?

Musharraf was trying to break Pakistan, by having created political divisions, social personal interests, Baluchistan issues, and by bringing in Indian culture, to destroy your own cultural norms. As for Ayub, he avoided that and kept Pakistan safe and in a good image across the globe.
 
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