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Musharraf does it again!

Indeed lets say they are all corrupt but not disloyal and secondly they did not beg the Indians for support at any time like Altaf Hussein did in that video and please stop bringing god into this.

My bad!!:hitwall:

Only those peoples are loyal who pay taxes!! And every one know karachiites pays 68% of tax!! And 80-90% are loyal to MQM!!

And now tell me is nawaz sharif loyal who dont pay taxes, on his ittefaq group!!
 
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My bad!!:hitwall:

Only those peoples are loyal who pay taxes!! And every one know karachiites pays 68% of tax!! And 80-90% are loyal to MQM!!

And now tell me is nawaz sharif loyal who dont pay taxes, on his ittefaq group!!

Yes indeed Nawaz Sharif must be all and completely disloyal after not paying taxes on a helicopter and have used the justice system not ran away to Britain and lived on a palace over their payed for by karachiites.
 
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Who told u he lives in palace?? If u have info then plz share!!
 
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Who told u he lives in palace?? If u have info then plz share!!

Mr. Altaf Hussein,
MQM International Secretariat
54 - 58, First Floor, Elizabeth House, High Street
Edgware, Middlesex, HA8 7EJ,
United Kingdom
Phone: ++44(020) 89057300
Fax: ++44(020) 8952 9282

Here is the adress it is a building on a high street in london with a secratariat that is officially recorded as run by party funding which is acceptable in UK I think is quite expensive to even think of living in the neighbourhood.

as for what the media here thinks this article might help.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=8280
 
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Just to put the record straight. I am a Londoner for last 40 years. Before Rockford Place in Surrey, Benazir and Asif Zardari had and still have a flat in Knightsbridge. Nawaz Sharif has a flat on the Park Lane. Both of these places are the most expensive and poshest areas of London. Property there is probably the most expensive (except Tokyo) in the world.

Edgware (Not Edgware Road are near Marble Arch) is in the North West of London. I live in Northwick Park myself, not far from Edgware. This is a relatively modest area, though not run down but not comparable to posh London suburbs such as Hampstead, St Johnswood, Southgate or Swiss Cottage.
 
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Just to put the record straight. I am a Londoner for last 40 years. Before Rockford Place in Surrey, Benazir and Asif Zardari had and still have a flat in Knightsbridge. Nawaz Sharif has a flat on the Park Lane. Both of these places are the most expensive and poshest areas of London. Property there is probably the most expensive (except Tokyo) in the world.

Edgware (Not Edgware Road are near Marble Arch) is in the North West of London. I live in Northwick Park myself, not far from Edgware. This is a relatively modest area, though not run down but not comparable to posh London suburbs such as Hampstead, St Johnswood, Southgate or Swiss Cottage.

Doesn't Altaf Hussain reside on Edgeware road and another thing isn't the office still not funded by the Karachiites and last but not the least isn't owning a whole floor of offices a bit posh to say the least considering that atleast Nawaz's office and houses are bought by the Ittefaq group.
 
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Just to put the record straight. I am a Londoner for last 40 years. Before Rockford Place in Surrey, Benazir and Asif Zardari had and still have a flat in Knightsbridge. Nawaz Sharif has a flat on the Park Lane. Both of these places are the most expensive and poshest areas of London. Property there is probably the most expensive (except Tokyo) in the world.

Edgware (Not Edgware Road are near Marble Arch) is in the North West of London. I live in Northwick Park myself, not far from Edgware. This is a relatively modest area, though not run down but not comparable to posh London suburbs such as Hampstead, St Johnswood, Southgate or Swiss Cottage.

First of aslaam Niaz and great to see you.;)

Do the above politicians come from the slums are there families the poorest of Pakistan. These properties are no phenomena niaz if they bought them in foreign countries they bought them for the very reason of exile, brought to you by our beloved dictators. Political leaders aren't safe in Pakistan either they are sent on death row or there exiled, niaz its pick and choose.
 
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First of aslaam Niaz and great to see you.;)

Do the above politicians come from the slums are there families the poorest of Pakistan. These properties are no phenomena niaz if they bought them in foreign countries they bought them for the very reason of exile, brought to you by our beloved dictators. Political leaders aren't safe in Pakistan either they are sent on death row or there exiled, niaz its pick and choose.

Oh please, now don't say that NS is from a rich family and his late abba ji left the Itefaq Group for his sons. I have personally met an egineer who was forced to certify good P. Railway engines so that they can be sold to Itefaq Group at a very very low cost.

Secondly, Bhutto family owns the land which belong to the people working on those lands. There is so much corruption money floating in Bhutto accts whihc is beyond imagination.
 
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Doesn't Altaf Hussain reside on Edgeware road and another thing isn't the office still not funded by the Karachiites and last but not the least isn't owning a whole floor of offices a bit posh to say the least considering that atleast Nawaz's office and houses are bought by the Ittefaq group.

Not an MQM man so have no idea where Altaf Hussein lives. The address mentioned above is in Edgware, which is in Middlesex County and post code is HA8 ( Harrow Post Office). I live in the HA3 post code area also of Harrow Post office. You will also notice that tel. starts with 0208 which is code for the London suburbs.

My solicitor has an office on the Edgware Road. This is in central London area and post code is W2 ( west 2 xxx). Tel numbers of central London areas begin with 0207.

The address in the HA8 7JL is defintely not in area classifed as 'Posh'.
 
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Oh please, now don't say that NS is from a rich family and his late abba ji left the Itefaq Group for his sons. I have personally met an egineer who was forced to certify good P. Railway engines so that they can be sold to Itefaq Group at a very very low cost.

Secondly, Bhutto family owns the land which belong to the people working on those lands. There is so much corruption money floating in Bhutto accts whihc is beyond imagination.

I have 2 interesting tales to tell of NS and his Ittefaq group.
One involving a course mate of my father and one narrated by my Uncle (Chacha).

1) In the 80s some equipment was frequently being stolen from a railway facility near Lahore and once or twice even the railway guard was gagged, bound and left helpless.
An Army detachment was also posted in immediate vicinity and one day they caught the perpetrators who were stealing high quality railway steel.
Guess who they were working for...:)

2) In the 90s my Uncle was in FF Regiment and based in Sialkot. One day while on a routine patrolling exercise they came across a very interesting sight. A freight train was standing on the railway track going towards India near the border and workers were dismantling the railway track and loading the steel onto the train.
The officers had a little talk with the party since it was a border area and railway lines are also a strategic asset.
It was discovered that steel was being removed upon the royal decree of GOP aka NS.

Anyhow that is what we are stuck with for now.
People with ill begotten wealth who claim to strike a common cause with the masses.

Hell Yeah it makes me feel good when i pay many many times more tax than the Jack O'Lantern of Islam Maulana Fazal Ul Rehman who owns multiple Land Cruisers :enjoy: ... But surely he is just enjoying the Lord's Bounty whereas i am working just for money and hence cannot expect the same reward.
;)
 
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Not an MQM man so have no idea where Altaf Hussein lives. The address mentioned above is in Edgware, which is in Middlesex County and post code is HA8 ( Harrow Post Office). I live in the HA3 post code area also of Harrow Post office. You will also notice that tel. starts with 0208 which is code for the London suburbs.

My solicitor has an office on the Edgware Road. This is in central London area and post code is W2 ( west 2 xxx). Tel numbers of central London areas begin with 0207.

The address in the HA8 7JL is defintely not in area classifed as 'Posh'.

Indeed he resides on Edgeware road and has office at Edgware middlesex and yes Edgware road the posh central london one.
 
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Saad Bhai i would like to give you some of Musharrafs accomplishments as i am not able to list them all here. please take a look.

Pak Economy in 1999 was: $ 75 billion
Pak Economy in 2007 is: $ 160 billion
Pak Economy in 2008 is: $ 170 billion

GDP Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) in 1999: $ 270 billion
GDP Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) in 2007: $ 475.5 billion
GDP Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) in 2008: $ 504.3 billion

GDP per Capita Income in 1999: $ 450
GDP per Capita Income in 2007: $ 926
GDP per Capita Income in 2008: $1085

Pak revenue collection 1999: Rs. 305 billion
Pak revenue collection 2007: Rs. 708 billion
Pak revenue collection 2008: Rs. 990 billion

Pak Foreign reserves in 1999: $ 1.96 billion
Pak Foreign reserves in 2007: $ 16.4 billion
Pak Foreign reserves in 2008: $ 8.89 billion

Pak Exports in 1999: $ 8 billion
Pak Exports in 2007: $ 18.5 billion
Pak Exports in 2008: $ 19.22 billion

Textile Exports in 1999: $ 5.5 billion
Textile Exports in 2007: $ 11.2 billion

KHI stock exchange 1999: $ 5 billion at 700 points
KHI stock exchange 2007: $ 75 billion at 14,000 points
KHI stock exchange 2009: $ 20 billion at 4,972 points

Foreign Investment in 1999: $ 301 million
Foreign Investment in 2007: $ 8.4 billion
Foreign Investment in 2008: $ 5.19 billion

Large Scale Manufacturing (LSM) in 1999: 1.5%
Large Scale Manufacturing (LSM) in 2005: 19.9%
Large Scale Manufacturing (LSM) in 2008: 4.8%

Debt servicing 1999: 65% of GDP
Debt servicing 2007: 28% of GDP
Debt servicing 2008: 27% of GDP

Poverty level in 1999: 34%
Poverty level in 2007: 24% Overall, 12 million people have been pushed out of Poverty in 2001 -2005!

Literacy rate in 1999: 45%
Literacy rate in 2007: 53%

Pak Development programs 1999: Rs. 80 billion
Pak Development programs 2007: Rs. 520 billion
Pak Development programs 2008: Rs. 549.7 billion

Dollar1997-1999 : 40-52
Dollar 2000-2007 : 53-60
Dollar 2008-2009 : 61-83

Inflation 1998 : 7.8%
Inflation 2007 : 7.7%
Inflation 2008 : 25%

FACT: Jan 14: Pakistan now has a total of 245,682 Educational institutions in all categories, including 164,579 (i.e. 67 per cent) in the public sector and 81,103 (i.e. 100 per cent) in the private sector, reports the National Education Census (NEC-2005). The census — jointly conducted by the Ministry of Education, the Academy of Educational Planning and Management (AEPAM) and the Federal Bureau of Statistics (FBS) — reveals that the number of private-sector institutions has increased from 36,096 in 1999-2000 to 81,103 in 2005, i.e. by 100 per cent. 45,007 Educational Institutions have increased in Musharraf Era.
FACT: Pakistan is 3rd in world in Banking profitability, a report of IMF said. On the IMF chart, Pakistan’s banking profitability is on third position after Colombia and Venezuela. On the IMF chart India is on 36th position and China is on 40th position. Pakistan’s Banking sector turned profitable in 2002. Their profits continued to rise for the next five years and peaked to Rs 84.1 ($1.1 billion) billion in 2006
In 1999-2000 there were 31 Public Universities. Now 2005-2006 there are 49 Public Universities
President Musharraf inaugurated an over Rs. 1.36 billion 18 Mega Watt Naltar hydro power project. The project, completed in four years at Naltar near Gilgit
The Private Power Infrastructure Board (PPIB) has approved expansion of Tarbela dam power project that would generate 960 MW costing $500 million.
President Musharraf Thursday inaugurated the Mirani Dam. Mirani Dam in Kech area of Mekran district with a catchment area of 12,000 square kilometre has been built in four years at a cost of Rs6 billion that includes Rs1.5 billion in compensation to the affected people. It will have a storage capacity of over 300,000 million acre feet of water.
Gomal Zam Dam: This project started Aug 2002 and is expected to be completed early 2008. It is located in the Damaan in NWFP. It is 437 feet high and will irrigate about 163,000 acres of land. The total costs amounts to Rs. 12 billion. Having a gross storage of 1.14 MAF. It will produce 17.4 MW of electricity.
Telecom sector has attracted an investment of $ 9 billion in last three years. It created of 80,000 jobs directly and 500,000 jobs indirectly.
Corrupt & Incompetent Nawaz Sharif made one motorway M2 (Lahore – Islamabad). Under Musharraf 6 Motorways completed or under construction:
M1 (Islamabad to Peshawar) – (Rs.13 bn) – [155 km] – (started 2003 – Completed Oct 2007)
M3 (Pindi to Faisalabad) – (Rs.5.6 bn) – [53 km] – (started 2002 – Completed 2004)
M8 (Gwadar to Ratodero) – [1072 km] – (started 2004 – will complete 2009)
M9 (Karachi to Hyderabad) – (Rs.6.3 bn) – [136 km] – (
M10 (Karachi Northern bypass) – (Rs 3.5 bn) – [56 km] – (completed 2007)
M11 (Lahore to Sialkot) – (Rs.23 bn) -[101 km] – (started 2006 – under construction)
Under Musharraf various Highways under construction throughout the country. Including N5, N-25, N-35, N-45, N-50, N-55, N-65, N-70, N-75, N-80, S-1, etc.
2-12-07: Sialkot International Airport Limited (SIAL) completed. The 1,002-acre airport is 13 km west of Sialkot and is linked by a road to Gujranwala, Wazirabad, Gujrat, Narowal, the Export Processing Zone (EPZ) and the Sialkot Dry Port Trust.
37. Ghandara International Airport (Islamabad) the first-ever green-field airport being built at a cost of $400 million; with a renowned international consultant, Louis Berger Group of USA. President Musharraf laid the foundation stone of the project on April 7, 2007 and will be completed by Dec 2010. Its total area is 3700 acres (15 km²).
Police Act 1861 replaced by Police Order 2002 after 141 years. Police force divided into three separate wings: Watch and ward, Investigation and Prosecution
 
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My statement was not meant as a personal attack, but as a cry of despair, an expression of just how weak democracy is in Pakistan, that people have more faith in a usurping general than in an elected president.

He is not a general anymore and his supporters have the right to support anyone they wish to support. At this point people see Gen Musharraf as a person who is very patriotic and honest.

People also compare his tenure with that of the Nawaz Sharif's and the PPPP's and find that Pakistan was first time on the right track.

Last but not least, General Musharraf atleast has the decency and courage to accept his mistakes unlike NS and the PPPP who always blame the previous regime for all ills.
 
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He is no longer holding any office. He is an ordinary person, like me and you. He has no political or any kind of future in Pakistan so he and his comments are irrelevant. He has touched to such lows that he was visiting Pir Pagara in his Kangry House. Who cares what he is saying? On the other hand each and every move of Zardari and NS is under the microscope. Are they representing the sentiments of Pakistanis, 'No', but Musharraf's bickering would change anything, answer is also 'No'. ‘So’ choohey kha kar billi hajj ko chali’.

My dear you are absolutely wrong. He is a retired army general and COAS and belongs to very scared class of cows and still that "eid ul adha" has not come in our unfortunate mother land that people of Pakistan could slaughter this kind of scared cow. Any thing can happen in Pakistan’s political system. Someone has already shown his eagerness to cast his vote in his favor. This type of people can win from any seat in Pakistan and you have to agree with me on this that votes are secondary issue for win. Two referendums and influence of agencies is not a hidden story now. 2002 election is a “state of art” example of work of these “angles”.
 
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The only voice that rose to defend Pakistan military.

Gen. Musharraf is the most loyal, devoted and valiant leader Pakistan had in decades. Even out of office, his exemplary devotion to Pakistan is undeniable.

We miss you sir.

This is really tough time in north America, people are struggling for jobs and trying hard to survive. In general there is great stress and depression but as we all know God is very merciful and made situation like this for people to laugh:yahoo::yahoo::cheesy:
 
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