Musharraf answers to the threat of Surgical strikes by India

[DeathGod]

An Indian surgical strike would be responded by a Butcher strike from Pakistan.

And Pakistan will most probably R.I.P. What suicidal mentality.

The truth of the matter is that no matter what Pakistani citizens , politicians or Generals think , if the world is with India for Strategic strikes and India does it then also Pakistan wont be in a position to retailiate. If pakistan retaliates and we see a kind of a limited war then also when cease-fire is announced then Pakistan will be taken to the dogs. If by some mistake Pakistan goes nuclear then there wont be much of its cities standing , not after the war and nowhere in the next century. It will be a worse kind of afghanistan. A kind of district 13 so to speak.

 

[Barrett]

And Pakistan will most probably R.I.P. What suicidal mentality.

The truth of the matter is that no matter what Pakistani citizens , politicians or Generals think , if the world is with India for Strategic strikes and India does it then also Pakistan wont be in a position to retailiate. If pakistan retaliates and we see a kind of a limited war then also when cease-fire is announced then Pakistan will be taken to the dogs. If by some mistake Pakistan goes nuclear then there wont be much of its cities standing , not after the war and nowhere in the next century. It will be a worse kind of afghanistan. A kind of district 13 so to speak.

So what exactly are you waiting for ?
According to your Govt/Media we sent a few terrorists in a rubber dinghy who killed hundereds of your citizens, what better reason do you want to attack Pakistan?
If its the international support that you are looking for then outsource your Armed forces to them and let them take decisions for you as you either don't have the capability or the courage to go forward with a surgical or whatever strike.
I like the last word in your post "Speak" and that is the only thing you people can do.

 

[DeathGod]

So what exactly are you waiting for ?
According to your Govt/Media we sent a few terrorists in a rubber dinghy who killed hundereds of your citizens, what better reason do you want to attack Pakistan?
If its the international support that you are looking for then outsource your Armed forces to them and let them take decisions for you as you either don't have the capability or the courage to go forward with a surgical or whatever strike.
I like the last word in your post "Speak" and that is the only thing you people can do.

Emotional Kahey ho rahe ho bhai ... Emotional nahi hote... Mind logically nahi soch paayega tumhara....

When we can acheive our objectives peacefully ( the whole world condemned you guys and you guys suffered much more then what you would have in case of surgical strikes) then what is the need for voilence. Pakistan has gathered a lot of bad name and JUD is a banned organisation. Drones of a fellow nation have been attacking terrorists and we guys didnt even need to waste money to deploy people or use our physical assets .Also in last 1 year there hasnt been any major terror attack. On the contrary , terrorist attacks have increased in Pakistan .

Voilence will be the ultimate solution and will be used when its time is right. Also we are a developing nation and dont want any kind of unneccearry hindrance to it( by the way of war etc). Get the point?

 

[Barrett]

Emotional Kahey ho rahe ho bhai ... Emotional nahi hote... Mind logically nahi soch paayega tumhara....

When we can acheive our objectives peacefully ( the whole world condemned you guys and you guys suffered much more then what you would have in case of surgical strikes) then what is the need for voilence. Pakistan has gathered a lot of bad name and JUD is a banned organisation. Drones of a fellow nation have been attacking terrorists and we guys didnt even need to waste money to deploy people or use our physical assets .Also in last 1 year there hasnt been any major terror attack. On the contrary , terrorist attacks have increased in Pakistan .

Voilence will be the ultimate solution and will be used when its time is right. Also we are a developing nation and dont want any kind of unneccearry hindrance to it( by the way of war etc). Get the point?

No I dont get your point.

Make up your mind first as you are contradicting your own statements.

 

[DeathGod]

No I dont get your point.

Make up your mind first as you are contradicting your own statements.

Ever heard of Janusian Thinking sir?

Read here
Janusian Thinking - A Creative Approach to Ideas

and then try and contemplate what I am trying to say...

 

[SSGPA1]

When we can acheive our objectives peacefully ( the whole world condemned you guys and you guys suffered much more then what you would have in case of surgical strikes) then what is the need for voilence.

It seemed that way but it is not correct. At one point Pakistan did gained negative press but that has ceratinly changed with how we have dealt with the extremists in our areas. So there is no loss for Pakistan and actually Pakistan has established its writ in the territories which were not in control of the GoP.

Majority of people are against extremisim and now more than ever, Pakistanis understand this fact. So this is a gain.

We have paid a price but now you are facing a far more united Pakistan!

Drones of a fellow nation have been attacking terrorists and we guys didnt even need to waste money to deploy people or use our physical assets .Also in last 1 year there hasnt been any major terror attack. On the contrary , terrorist attacks have increased in Pakistan .

Voilence will be the ultimate solution and will be used when its time is right. Also we are a developing nation and dont want any kind of unneccearry hindrance to it( by the way of war etc). Get the point?

Answered above but I would suggest you to worry about Khalistan freedom movement again. A few days back Delhi was full of flyers about Khalistan. Lets worry about home first and then think about surgical strike

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

some people really amazed me with their habit of repeating the same hogwash over and over again, aimlessly. First and foremost, Kashmiri groups like LeT (DEFUNCT) or JuD will always have their agenda focused on Kashmir. As long as the issues exist, so will such groups. As for comparing US to hindustan, that is also immature and lacks logic. india is our enemy. The former is not. indian are always welcome to try an adventure. Of course history showed how Pakistan treated enemy invading saffron aircrafts. It's better for indian to focus on its poor than to talk about imaginary dreams "surgical strikes." Surgery will be responded to with butchery strikes. I'm afraid we don't have a anesthetics

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

some people really amazed me with their habit of repeating the same hogwash over and over again, aimlessly. First and foremost, Kashmiri groups like LeT (DEFUNCT) or JuD will always have their agenda focused on Kashmir. As long as the issues exist, so will such groups. As for comparing US to hindustan, that is also immature and lacks logic. india is our enemy. The former is not. indian are always welcome to try an adventure. Of course history showed how Pakistan treated enemy invading saffron aircrafts. It's better for indian to focus on its poor than to talk about imaginary dreams "surgical strikes." Surgery will be responded to with butchery strikes. I'm afraid we don't have a anesthetics

 

[Spitfighter]

some people really amazed me with their habit of repeating the same hogwash over and over again, aimlessly. First and foremost, Kashmiri groups like LeT (DEFUNCT) or JuD will always have their agenda focused on Kashmir. As long as the issues exist, so will such groups. As for comparing US to hindustan, that is also immature and lacks logic. india is our enemy. The former is not. indian are always welcome to try an adventure. Of course history showed how Pakistan treated enemy invading saffron aircrafts. It's better for indian to focus on its poor than to talk about imaginary dreams "surgical strikes." Surgery will be responded to with butchery strikes. I'm afraid we don't have a anesthetics

aren't you a military professional?

The only reason Pakistan threatens to escalate the conflict is because that's the only card it has, 'too crazy to mess with'.

I think not, we've dismembered you in the past, Pakistan didn't have the gonads to admit that the soldiers in Kargil were its own, so I doubt that Pakistan genuinely has the stomach to bite off more than it can chew, you can talk all you want but your actions prove otherwise.

Pakistan to its credit does have a potent and professional military, there aren't many who'd want to fight you, as such defeating/degrading your military on your ground requires meticulous planning (time), the element of surprise (hence logistics) and high end weaponry (money & time).

It is safe to say that India hasn't perfected its military doctrine, or acquired all that it needs to hammer Pakistan into submission (i.e limited objectives of CS) as yet, but we're working on it consistently. The strategic picture will change dramatically 2-3 years from now, at that point a military adventure would be more likely, as of now a stalemate (even favorable) won't help our cause but it'll strengthen yours, so we wait.

 

[Skywalker]

And Pakistan will most probably R.I.P. What suicidal mentality.

The truth of the matter is that no matter what Pakistani citizens , politicians or Generals think , if the world is with India for Strategic strikes and India does it then also Pakistan wont be in a position to retailiate. If pakistan retaliates and we see a kind of a limited war then also when cease-fire is announced then Pakistan will be taken to the dogs. If by some mistake Pakistan goes nuclear then there wont be much of its cities standing , not after the war and nowhere in the next century. It will be a worse kind of afghanistan. A kind of district 13 so to speak.

Dogs means by yourself or your leaders.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

goodness. Sorry for the triple repost. My black berry is on crack it seems. Will tend to your post later on

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

some people really amazed me with their habit of repeating the same hogwash over and over again, aimlessly. First and foremost, Kashmiri groups like LeT (DEFUNCT) or JuD will always have their agenda focused on Kashmir. As long as the issues exist, so will such groups. As for comparing US to hindustan, that is also immature and lacks logic. india is our enemy. The former is not. indian are always welcome to try an adventure. Of course history showed how Pakistan treated enemy invading saffron aircrafts. It's better for indian to focus on its poor than to talk about imaginary dreams "surgical strikes." Surgery will be responded to with butchery strikes. I'm afraid we don't have a anesthetics

 

[DeathGod]

1.It seemed that way but it is not correct. At one point Pakistan did gained negative press but that has ceratinly changed with how we have dealt with the extremists in our areas. So there is no loss for Pakistan and actually Pakistan has established its writ in the territories which were not in control of the GoP.

2.Majority of people are against extremisim and now more than ever, Pakistanis understand this fact. So this is a gain.

We have paid a price but now you are facing a far more united Pakistan!

3.Answered above but I would suggest you to worry about Khalistan freedom movement again. A few days back Delhi was full of flyers about Khalistan. Lets worry about home first and then think about surgical strike

1.Pakistan would have never dealt with terrorists but for the foreign preassure. Lets be honest here. Terrorist strikes in Pakistan have increased manyfold after Mumbai. One reason for that is akistan can't let these terror groups roam freely anyone , a fact that hasn't been likened by terrorists.

2. Well when so many of pakistani citizens think that TTP and Lashkar are different , I dont know how united they are against terrorism. Dont be hypocrites , if someone murdering your citizen in your country is a terrorist then so is the person doing it in another country. United Pak -- well good for you but regionalism still exists. (Punjab is treated as queen while Balochistan as a estranged child)

3. I was born in 31st Oct 1984 , the day Indira Gandhi died , and have grown up in a place on the border of Punjab and Haryana . Let alone delhi , I never found the effects of terrorism in my city. Btw past is past. Look what the current situation is and where pakistan today is esp. politically and economically. I am not trying to belittle pakistan and I think as a country you guys have great potential but for that potential to be changed into something that the world sees, you guys will have to give up terrorism and your india-phobia .

 

[SSGPA1]

1.Pakistan would have never dealt with terrorists but for the foreign preassure. Lets be honest here. Terrorist strikes in Pakistan have increased manyfold after Mumbai. One reason for that is akistan can't let these terror groups roam freely anyone , a fact that hasn't been likened by terrorists.

2. Well when so many of pakistani citizens think that TTP and Lashkar are different , I dont know how united they are against terrorism. Dont be hypocrites , if someone murdering your citizen in your country is a terrorist then so is the person doing it in another country. United Pak -- well good for you but regionalism still exists. (Punjab is treated as queen while Balochistan as a estranged child)

3. I was born in 31st Oct 1984 , the day Indira Gandhi died , and have grown up in a place on the border of Punjab and Haryana . Let alone delhi , I never found the effects of terrorism in my city. Btw past is past. Look what the current situation is and where pakistan today is esp. politically and economically. I am not trying to belittle pakistan and I think as a country you guys have great potential but for that potential to be changed into something that the world sees, you guys will have to give up terrorism and your india-phobia .

I was going to give a detailed response but then realized that its not worth especially when a person has twisted so many facts.

Since you are at the border, I would suggest you to check these links and see which one suits you more:

Health Department, Haryana

Punjab Mental Hospital, Amritsar

Once you have some sanity then read Abu Zolfiqar's post over and over again. Learn it by heart and recite over and over again like a mantra. We will respond back with butchery strikes insha-Allah!

 

[Trisonics]

I think many Indians suffer from "Israel envy", but the fear of swift and massive retaliation by Pakistan keeps their "Israel envy" in check.

Former UN diplomat and current Indian MP Minister Sashi Tharoor described India's "Israel envy" and warned Indians against it in the following words in 2009 before he became Indian deputy foreign minister:

"Hamas is in no position to repay Israel's air and ground attacks in kind, whereas an Indian attack on Pakistani territory, even one targeting terrorist bases and training camps, would invite swift retaliation from the Pakistani army. And, at the end of the day, one chilling fact would prevent India from thinking that it could use Israel's playbook: The country that condones, if not foments, the terror attacks on India is a nuclear power.

Yet, when Indians watch Israel take the fight to the enemy, killing those who launched rockets against it and dismantling many of the sites from which the rockets flew, some cannot resist wishing that they could do something similar in Pakistan. India understands, though, that the collateral damage would be too high, the price in civilian lives unacceptable, and the risks of the conflict spiraling out of control too acute to contemplate such an option. So Indians place their trust in international diplomacy and watch, with ill-disguised wistfulness, as Israel does what they could never permit themselves to do."

Unfortunately, it is not just the average middle class urban Indian that suffers from "Israel envy". Indian strategists and military brass are also afflicted by it. Respected American South Asia expert Stephen Cohen of Washington's Brookings Institution recently told his audience: "Not a few Indian generals and strategists have told me that if only America would strip Pakistan of its nuclear weapons then the Indian army could destroy the Pakistan army and the whole thing would be over."

Haq's Musings: India's Israel Envy

Haq's Musings: India's Missile Shield and Israel Envy Threaten Pakistan

You are partly correct, India does love the Jewish state there is no denial there. The admiration is for many things the jews accomplished and not necessarily what you point out. The Israel type retaliation (key word) may be famous with the leaders but for the common man its sheer frustration in mindless killings and the cowardly attacks that terrorists in Pakistan employ against India. Don't equate the two when it comes to the common man, this only, again, shows your deep rooted bias and a targeted rant against India!!!

President Obama came out in support of India's right "to protect themselves". Asked if India had the right to “take out” high-value targets inside Pakistan with or without the permission of Islamabad, as he is espousing, he said: “I think that sovereign nations, obviously, have a right to protect themselves". This is the same kind of language that former President Bush often used in support of Israel's attacks on Palestinians and Lebanese.

This is the exact same tone Pakistani's use when India speaks of "Surgical Strikes".

Bottom line, not just Indians, any sovereign nation will reach the level of frustration when cowardly and inhuman attacks are carried out on a nation. Shouldn't a nation be answerable to its own citizens?