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Salute to Pakistan Army Soldiers, the real heroes, Performing their duties at Siachin Glacier -50 degrees.

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Salute to Pakistan Army Soldiers, the real heroes, Performing their duties at Siachin Glacier -50 degrees.

-50 Degree mae siachin glacier par faraiz anjam detay huay, Pakistani fouji aur pakistan kay asal heroes ko dil say salaam.
 
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Very cute, goes to show even a dictator, treacherous general, and shameless warmongers who contributed to the unnecessary martyrdom of many of his own men, can also have a soft side. :tup:

Very heartwarming etc..
 
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Very cute, goes to show even a dictator, treacherous general, and shameless warmongers who contributed to the unnecessary martyrdom of many of his own men, can also have a soft side. :tup:

Very heartwarming etc..
Mind your language..
You were never in general musharaff shoes so you can never understand the rationale behind the decisions he had taken.
Mud slinging on a national hero is apparently your only contribution so far.
 
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Mind your language..
You were never in general musharaff shoes so you can never understand the rationale behind the decisions he had taken.
Mud slinging on a national hero is apparently your only contribution so far.

He is exactly as I described him. And although I can’t know for sure exactly what sort of foolishness occupied his mind at the time. I do know what he did, why he did it, how he did it.

And ‘it’ involved a poorly planned and unprovoked conflict in which our men were slain all while we couldn’t support them properly because him and his Gang of Four imbeciles made our official stance to be that these are non-state actors, so when Indian bofors and Mirages came knocking on their positions, and when they began running empty on ammunition and food, we had to watch helplessly. He did not inform the army properly, and any of the other branches of the armed forces and civilian leadership, all kept in the dark until it was too late. He in his folly often lies about the truth of Kargil, he says Nawaz lost the war, when in fact it was him and his co-conspirators that in a state of panic, beseeched Nawaz to go to the US and ask them to intervene. After that, given the circumstances and poorly thought planning, the final chapter involved an unconditional withdrawal, in which our men were killed while attempting to withdraw, yet we couldn’t do or say anything in response.

Post-Kargil, everyone and their dog knew that either Musharraf gets court martialed, or there’s martial law. The latter happened to prevent the former. Musharraf removed an elected government, broke his oath to the constitution, imprisoned an elected PM, dissolved assembly, and suspended the constitution. He then asked judges to validate his dictatorship, and when they refused he had them imprisoned. Then he made the remaining judges break their oaths to the constitution and take new oaths to him under PCO. He also tried his best to keep Nawaz in prison mostly on trumped up charges, perhaps he wanted to make another Bhutto out of him, this part is uncertain. As for his record in the war on terror, political record and his subservience to the US. I need not elaborate, what I’ve said here is enough of a damning indictment.

So it seems that I don’t know everything and I don’t know what it was like being in his shoes, but I do know enough to say that was indeed a warmongering fool, a shameless dictator and a traitor general.
 
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Post-Kargil, everyone and their dog knew that either Musharraf gets court martialed, or there’s martial law. The latter happened to prevent the former. Musharraf removed an elected government, broke his oath to the constitution, imprisoned an elected PM, dissolved assembly, and suspended the constitution. He then asked judges to validate his dictatorship, and when they refused he had them imprisoned. Then he made the remaining judges break their oaths to the constitution and take new oaths to him under PCO. He also tried his best to keep Nawaz in prison mostly on trumped up charges, perhaps he wanted to make another Bhutto out of him, this part is uncertain. As for his record in the war on terror, political record and his subservience to the US. I need not elaborate, what I’ve said here is enough of a damning indictment.
For your kind info how much you distort facts. The Ground Reality is that his plane landed after Military Coup.
Otherwise what would have been an outcome if plane haven't landed on Airport.
I Hope that you still have supported that DEMOCRATIC ELECTED GOVERNMENT EVEN IF YOUR FAMILY WAS IN THAT PLANE & BOTH BUTT'S HAVE SUCCEEDED IN THEIR PLAN (DENYING LANDING).

It was your own Iftikhar how not only validated 1999 but also give him 3 year extension.
Him and his Co. calling Emergency a Treason is nothing more then a joke. Your Genius Legal Expert(Anti-Musharraf) Joke was that he impose emergency as Army Chief not as President. Why this Ambiguity? Who first allow him to hold both position. Your very own Judiciary. Did he use army in Emergency????? Answer No.
The Harm your Judiciary did to this country Red Mosque, Terrorist, Insurgency, Karachi Steel Mill Privatization etc don't need any explanation.
But i will give you one example
BLA who is responsible for Genocide of non-Baloch people support Iftikhar Chaudry. Funny thing is he is Chaudry and use Baluchistan Quota.

In Jawab Di program the person who was defending Nawaz & blaming Musharraf accept these facts
1> NAWAZ WAS AWARE
2. NAWAZ GIVE APPROVAL
If you are a manager you don't blame your staff. You know it & you approve it you are responsible for the outcome.

If you know so much about Military you should also know what your democratic leader said to Air Commodore on Hot Line (PN Atlantique plane Incident).

 
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He is exactly as I described him. And although I can’t know for sure exactly what sort of foolishness occupied his mind at the time. I do know what he did, why he did it, how he did it.

And ‘it’ involved a poorly planned and unprovoked conflict in which our men were slain all while we couldn’t support them properly because him and his Gang of Four imbeciles made our official stance to be that these are non-state actors, so when Indian bofors and Mirages came knocking on their positions, and when they began running empty on ammunition and food, we had to watch helplessly. He did not inform the army properly, and any of the other branches of the armed forces and civilian leadership, all kept in the dark until it was too late. He in his folly often lies about the truth of Kargil, he says Nawaz lost the war, when in fact it was him and his co-conspirators that in a state of panic, beseeched Nawaz to go to the US and ask them to intervene. After that, given the circumstances and poorly thought planning, the final chapter involved an unconditional withdrawal, in which our men were killed while attempting to withdraw, yet we couldn’t do or say anything in response.

Post-Kargil, everyone and their dog knew that either Musharraf gets court martialed, or there’s martial law. The latter happened to prevent the former. Musharraf removed an elected government, broke his oath to the constitution, imprisoned an elected PM, dissolved assembly, and suspended the constitution. He then asked judges to validate his dictatorship, and when they refused he had them imprisoned. Then he made the remaining judges break their oaths to the constitution and take new oaths to him under PCO. He also tried his best to keep Nawaz in prison mostly on trumped up charges, perhaps he wanted to make another Bhutto out of him, this part is uncertain. As for his record in the war on terror, political record and his subservience to the US. I need not elaborate, what I’ve said here is enough of a damning indictment.

So it seems that I don’t know everything and I don’t know what it was like being in his shoes, but I do know enough to say that was indeed a warmongering fool, a shameless dictator and a traitor general.
We all have our own point of view but we should not distort facts.
The martial law happened because of Nawaz Sharif not musharaff. Nawaz denied landing his plane and fired him when he was on a visit abroad. That's how he disrespected army of your country. Not just that he appointed a new army chief from a non operational branch which is against army and country constitution. So that should make nawaz traitor as well right?
Secret military operations not always go by the book . For example when India captured siachen or supported Mukhti bahni in 1971 they didn't take everyone into confidence because that would jeopardize secrecy. But their government supported the military for a national interest. But Nawaz ran away to USA instead of supporting military and wasted all efforts and sacrifices of our soldiers. Had he acted not like a coward musharaff was going to take whole kargil because we cutted off their supply lines. .Nawaz declined to offer full war support to musharaff and prevent the army to retain the captured posts.
 
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