Musharaf is severely ill may die soon

[ziaulislam]

when you release a virus it infacts!

not awaams lets take mqm for example

you created bhutto and he made some weird laws and discriminated against muhajir while he had your support then you armed mqm supported their killings just to counter bhuttos! and then you blame awaam!

mqm won again..

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Allah Janat bakhshe ....True Pakistani

Musharaf is without doubt my hero

 

[Jf Thunder]

didnt Musharaf sell Aafia Siddiqui to the USA?
oh wait.........even PTI didnt do anything to get her back

 

[jzeebravo]

The guy loved his country, I respect him for that. Made some terrible mistakes in the later part of his rule. Should never have aligned with the politician and NRO was an unforgivable sin.

 

[GHALIB]

Jahaz utarne nahi dena.

Lol ... That changes regime.

 

[Jungibaaz]

It's usually not expected to speak ill of those who are ill and especially those who might pass away soon. And I'm only expressing my own views here.

I don't have much sympathy for him as a politician. He and his arrogance/stupidity led to Kargil, he comitted high treason by overthrowing a government and subsequently ran a dictatorship, he caved in to US demands and ignited a civil war like situation (perhaps he had no choice), he oversaw a huge lack of investment in energy infrastructure which led to the energy crisis, a lot of growth in that period achieved was short-term and shortsighted, and then there's NRO too. And he has since ran away not to return to Pakistan pending a Supreme Court trial.

History would be very unkind to him if it wasn't for the propaganda surrounding him.

sher ka baacha who would have taken entire illegally indian occupied kashmir had it not been for the fat coward Nawaz.

Kargil was a blunder, Musharraf's stupidity led to the needless deaths of NLI, it damaged our reputation, and he squandered a strategy that could have been very useful in the right conditions.

 

[Yaseen1]

his demise is very fast as compared to others he will be answerable to ALLAH ALMIGHTY after death about his sins and wrong deeds he is suffering with very unique disease and his sins and crimes are also unique and severe and he was responsible for killing of millions of people in this region

It's usually not expected to speak ill of those who are ill and especially those who might pass away soon. And I'm only expressing my own views here.

I don't have much sympathy for him as a politician. He and his arrogance/stupidity led to Kargil, he comitted high treason by overthrowing a government and subsequently ran a dictatorship, he caved in to US demands and ignited a civil war like situation (perhaps he had no choice), he oversaw a huge lack of investment in energy infrastructure which led to the energy crisis, a lot of growth in that period achieved was short-term and shortsighted, and then there's NRO too. And he has since ran away not to return to Pakistan pending a Supreme Court trial.

History would be very unkind to him if it wasn't for the propaganda surrounding him.



Kargil was a blunder, Musharraf's stupidity led to the needless deaths of NLI, it damaged our reputation, and he squandered a strategy that could have been very useful in the right conditions.

 

[ALi Rizwan]

I used to think like you too bro but nah this guy is the worst after zia

Ok Sir Lets see

Kargil blunder

According to anti Musharraf and Pro Nawaz Gen Aziz on Geo Tv
1>Nawaz (PM) was aware of it before the operation
2>Nawaz approved the operation
3> Then his excuse that COAS should have told him (Nawaz) about political implication. But was it not the Job of his cabinet or/& his favorite DG ISI(Butt)
4> Nawaz was more interested in Lunch then briefing (Allegedly)
5> Nawaz would have been the real beneficiary if this ended differently
6> According to Locals people (Northen Area) major losses on our site was during retreat
7> Who order Troops to retreat with out reaching ceasefire with India
8> India was unaware about most points

NLI was involved in Kargil. Do you know people of north like 2 leaders (Zulfikar Ali Bhutto & Musharraf) - Why??? because Zulfikar subsidize Wheat for North & Musharraf because all development including Roads all happen during his time. he also bring real democracy in north by giving actual power to local people. Earlier bureaucrat(Federal) was above elected members and can kick out when ever he wants.

The pointless coup

How can you blame him when he was in air and probably few 10~15 Min away from death along with hundred on innocent civilian. Do you want that plane to crash? Would you still have supported democracy in your family in that plane? For reference check that control tower audio <Control tower guy telling general that pilot told him that he is getting plane on higher altitude because very little fuel left>

Dragging us into WOT

Would like to enlighten us what you have done differently to stop this inevitable? US supper power. Whole world including your all allies on their side. And terrorism was going on long before probably you were not interested to notice it because you were not in line of fire or probably no better media coverage that time. Their Weapons also changed from guns to suicide attacks almost impossible to stop.

Allowing mqm to get stronger

what else option he has in democracy other then PPP & MQM & Other Wadiras in Sindh??? Are you among those who have accepted the truth that this system is so corrupt that it can't be corrected from with in?

NRO

NRO is wrong all agreed. But would you like to explain why politicians who elected him asked for NRO can he remain in power without them Same case durin KB Dam.
And don't forget no matter how much you blame him main culprits were the people of Pakistan how elected those NRO Guys.

 

[Sully3]

El o el. Noora saved our asses. Our men were getting slaughtered

no
Indias double game meant our soldiers were killed. US forced us to agree ceasefire and return back to our side of LOC, under ceasefire agreement when we were retreating back to our LOC is when the mighty brave indian army started killing our soldiers. Under gurantee of USA the ceeasefire was vioalted. NAWAZ kept quiet and we all know how army repaid him for his cowardness in 99.

Kargil was a blunder, Musharraf's stupidity led to the needless deaths of NLI, it damaged our reputation, and he squandered a strategy that could have been very useful in the right conditions.

Not a blunder when we had taken over the peaks months before and had war not broken out indians wouldnt have known about the caputered peaks till the summer when the snow melts and indians take over the bunkers again.

US and India pressured Nawaz into the ceasefire, US and india agreed that under ceasefire troops will be allowed to go back into their side of LOC back into the usual agreed borders. After taking such hummiliation that they had to go to US for ceasefire the pressure back home in India was building and their PM needed to do something. SO the coward indians killed thousand of pakistani soldiers returning back to their positions on Pakistani side under a ceasefire agreed upon by US because we had a coward like nawaz representing us. with so many soldiers dead India played the propganda card and make itself to look like some kind of hero and winner but the truth shall always remain Indian cowards couldn only do something under the cover of ceasefire guranteed by USA.

we lost so many soldiers in the end because the indians did what they always do lie, hence why they are called the land of snake charmers for centuries.

 

[VCheng]

Under gurantee of USA the ceeasefire was vioalted.

That's rather rich. Who violated the ceasefire line to begin with?! And what "guarantee" did USA offer that was violated?

Not a blunder when we had taken over the peaks months before and had war not broken out indians wouldnt have known about the caputered peaks till the summer when the snow melts and indians take over the bunkers again.

And what moron would think that war would not break out if the ceasefire line was violated?

 

[The Sandman]

According to anti Musharraf and Pro Nawaz Gen Aziz on Geo Tv

This here is where the real problem starts the propaganda machine is so strong that no matter whom i quote what proof i give it will dismissed as "anti army/musharraf" and "pro nawaz" or the usual excuse "it was for the sake of Pakistan". There's nothing wrong in learning from your history and admitting blunders we should learn something from Germans they've no problem in admitting the mistakes they made and look where they're today. When we will stop defending these 2 who broke the constitution will be the day we as a qoum will take 1 step in the right direction.

 

[Cool_Soldier]

May Allah bless him with good Health_Aaameen

 

[Sully3]

That's rather rich. Who violated the ceasefire line to begin with?! And what "guarantee" did USA offer that was violated?

And what moron would think that war would not break out if the ceasefire line was violated?

What the hell is ceasefire line?
And if you are talking about LOC then those lines are crossed regularly by both armies and no war beaks out. so you are wrong again.

why are you so skpetic about USA role and and involvement. Imagine thinking Clinton was calm and had no care for 2 nuclear armed neighbours about to go to war.

Kargil never turned into a full fledge war, PAF or Navy wasnt used. it was capturing of strategic peaks which india went to US for to meddle and contain the situation. ceasefire was agreed and safe passage was promised, yet agan the land of snake charmers did what they do and lied to save face form indian public and the media outcry and killed thousands of troops on a march back under cease fire.

 

[Imran Khan]

hope he will get well soon

 

[Jungibaaz]

And what moron would think that war would not break out if the ceasefire line was violated?

A moron named Pervaiz Musharraf.