Murder in Islam's name is actual blasphemy: Hamza Ali Abbasi

[WarFariX]

The act conducted by these students was very brutal . At least some of them must be hanged and also their advisor must be dealt with and from which background he comes...As for the MashalKhan , if even he was blasephmous then he must have been handed over to court . NOwadays mil is also actively inspecting social media for these type of bul**It contents....they must have reported mil if something like this did happen...as for qadiani thing , qadianis must not try to promote their faith or else get kicked out of pakistan and coz their faith is totally against first pillar of islam that is shahadah then Ahahdeeth must be referrwed to for penalty in case they are found guilty of doing their own tableegh....

From what I have read so far, Mashal Khan was killed for supporting Ahmadis rights in Pakistan. Incidents like these are common in Pakistan and are on rise, so why don't you guys simply ban other religions and force only the Sunni or Wahabi Islam on everyone!! Will that bring peace to your land?

i saw news 2 days ago , a muslim men was killed for slaughtering cow. (no offence) but both countries have extremists

 

[Penguin]

Murder in Islam's name is actual blasphemy: Hamza Ali Abbasi

I don't know the man but what he says makes sense. Thumbs up.

 

[jbond197]

i saw news 2 days ago , a muslim men was killed for slaughtering cow. (no offence) but both countries have extremists

I agree there are extremists in India too, but trust me there is still freedom for Ahmadis to call themselves Muslims. There is no law against calling anyone anything they wish to. No laws that hangs people for being blasphemous. No one kills someone for posting stuff online, and more over other religions are not hated as much as they are in Pakistan.

Whoa! The weak Islamists could not handle a comment!! Why was it deleted??

 

[WarFariX]

I agree there are extremists in India too, but trust me there is still freedom for Ahmadis to call themselves Muslims. There is no law against calling anyone anything they wish to. No laws that hangs people for being blasphemous. No one kills someone for posting stuff online, and more over other religions are not hated as much as they are in Pakistan.

Whoa! The weak Islamists could not handle a comment!! Why was it deleted??

look...this stupid mentality of new generation inspired by west of this world which says that freedom of calling...what the hell freedom of calling...if soo much freedom is needed then why keep religious rules alive..scrap them....if any person who calls anyone a prophet after Prophet Muhammad S.A is not a muslim..and thats what Allah (GOD ) said....its not what people want to believe will modify religion..every muslim country and central law of islam "The pure sharia " also rules out this...ahmedis are not muslims..they call Ghulam ahmed as their prophet..do u expect us to call them muslims ? . they are rejected worldwide when they call themselves muslims and even their passports are not stating religion as islam..and as for killing hanging shit ,,,thats something i dont like

 

[jbond197]

look...this stupid mentality of new generation inspired by west of this world which says that freedom of calling...what the hell freedom of calling...if soo much freedom is needed then why keep religious rules alive..scrap them....if any person who calls anyone a prophet after Prophet Muhammad S.A is not a muslim..and thats what Allah (GOD ) said....its not what people want to believe will modify religion..every muslim country and central law of islam "The pure sharia " also rules out this...ahmedis are not muslims..they call Ghulam ahmed as their prophet..do u expect us to call them muslims ? . they are rejected worldwide when they call themselves muslims and even their passports are not stating religion as islam..and as for killing hanging shit ,,,thats something i dont like

Showing the true Pakistani mentality. This is what you are taught as part of your upbringing so its not exactly your fault. Honestly speaking Its stupid to believe that the god, if he exists, will stop sending his messengers. Trust me If somebody claims that then it is because he wants to establish his monopoly nothing else. This is used as a context and sick kinds find a Hindu, Ahmadi or some one else who has no voice. They blame them of blasphemy and kill them.. Hopefuly they think such acts will bring in more positive views on Islam and more people will love the great prophet!!

 

[TankMan]

Showing the true Pakistani mentality. This is what you are taught as part of your upbringing. Its stupid to believe that the god, if he exists, will stop sending his messengers. Trust me If somebody claims that then it is because he wants to establish his monopoly nothing else. This is used as a context and sick kinds find a Hindu, Ahmadi or some one else who has no voice. They blame them of blasphemy and kill them.. Hopefuly they think such acts will bring in more positive views on Islam and more people will love the great prophet!!

Please keep your self-righteous gloating out of this. Every few days extremists in India kill someone for eating beef or for being of a low caste. Just two weeks ago there was the Nandini case in India - brutal, senseless violence. You people have had lynchings over beef; this happened last week. Before that, there was this. And this.

This is a thread about a Pakistani public figure condemning the violence. We are here trying to fight against our own extremists - why don't you go do the same instead of preaching your supposed moral superiority? Why aren't you speaking out against your own extremists instead of lecturing us. We are already ashamed enough. We know what's wrong in our society. Your gloating doesn't have any effect on our situation - but it does reflect on your own.

It shows that you'd rather boast about how much better your secular freedomland is than Pakistan, instead of actually upholding the values you claim your country has and dealing with your extremists.

Waite and see thekedar of Islam come and made this thread into liberal libtard shekular fasadi and ummati sword lover janati
And I believe Islam reach to hearts with peace love tolerance justice not with soward and brutality.

It's ironic, because a lot of the things Hamza Ali Abbasi says tend to upset the standard Pakistani Liberal brigade. Every so often there are posts calling him 'molvi sahib' and 'thekedar'.

Now when he is condemning religious extremism, he will be called a liberal secularist.

That's what happens when you try to be balanced and reasonable - you become Liberal Secular Fasadi and Thekedar Wahabi Molvi at the same time, like a politicised version of Schrodinger's Cat!

 

[Zibago]

I don't know the man but what he says makes sense. Thumbs up.

Actor/activist/TV Host a jack of all traits

 

[Hell hound]

even after all these years pakistanis are still unable to understand where all this terrorism is coming from.for godsake people it is coming from hate and intolerance within us.
we have to accept it as it is the first step to cure the disease

 

[Mrc]

For once i agree with him

 

[jbond197]

Please keep your self-righteous gloating out of this. Every few days extremists in India kill someone for eating beef or for being of a low caste. Just two weeks ago there was the Nandini case in India - brutal, senseless violence. You people have had lynchings over beef; this happened last week. Before that, there was this. And this.

This is a thread about a Pakistani public figure condemning the violence. We are here trying to fight against our own extremists - why don't you go do the same instead of preaching your supposed moral superiority? Why aren't you speaking out against your own extremists instead of lecturing us. We are already ashamed enough. We know what's wrong in our society. Your gloating doesn't have any effect on our situation - but it does reflect on your own.

It shows that you'd rather boast about how much better your secular freedomland is than Pakistan, instead of actually upholding the values you claim your country has and dealing with your extremists.

I never said India is perfect. I/we Indians and trust me that is a huge number that raises voice against our extremists be it Hindus or Muslims. Also, it's because of us that our parliament doesn't decide if a person can be Hindu or not. It's because of us we do not have murderous blashphemy laws, which can be used so easily to wipe out minorities. It's because of us that the minority in our country is actually increasing not reducing unlike yours.

Respected Sir, I know you are a right thinking Pakistani, and you yourself know that your parliament is the one which has encouraged these extremists, and your parliament infact has gifted these extremists murderous tools like blasphemy Laws. Such laws have no place in the society in todays time so please help your minority please raise your voice against such laws, such discrimination!!

I apologize if my comment has hurted you, but I only pointed out to the flaws I see as an outsider!!

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

I. There is no law against calling anyone anything they wish to. No laws that hangs people for being blasphemous. No one kills someone for posting stuff online, and more over other religions are not hated as much as they are in Pakistan.

No one was following any laws when committed this crime

these fanatics took laws in their hand and are being arrested for their crimes and acting as moral police and takedaar of Islam so go and troll somewhere else

 

[TankMan]

Also, it's because of us that our parliament doesn't decide if a person can be Hindu or not. It's because of us we do not have murderous blashphemy laws, which can be used so easily to wipe out minorities.

Yet your parliament can decide who is a member of what caste, who is scheduled caste etc, and Ministers get away with saying things like "Dalit are dogs". Not to mention Modi, who is famous for his intolerance and believes he 'did the right thing' by letting people get slaughtered in riots in 2002, being Prime Minister.

If politicians truly represented the people, things would be very, very different. Not just in Pakistan or India, but all over the world.

If you're saying Pakistani politicians are corrupt, you're preaching to the choir. We know. It's our problem, not yours.

Such laws have no place in the society in todays time so please help your minority please raise your voice against such laws, such discrimination!!

We do it all the time. I, at least, have been raising my voice against the blasphemy laws for a long time. Social reform is a slow process, but it can be done. It won't happen overnight, and that is true for Pakistan as well as our neighbors.

I apologize if my comment has hurted you, but I only pointed out to the flaws I see as an outsider!!

Pointing out flaws isn't a problem, the problem is the use of this horrible incident for point scoring and trolling like "true mentality, this is your upbringing, etc"

That's what your post felt like, if you didn't intend it that way then I apologise for somehow misreading it.

One can not promote tolerance while at the same time telling people that their upbringing is horrible and their religion is stupid.

 

[BATMAN]

Murder of Mashal is clearly blasphemy of highest level.

 

[Musafir117]

Please keep your self-righteous gloating out of this. Every few days extremists in India kill someone for eating beef or for being of a low caste. Just two weeks ago there was the Nandini case in India - brutal, senseless violence. You people have had lynchings over beef; this happened last week. Before that, there was this. And this.

This is a thread about a Pakistani public figure condemning the violence. We are here trying to fight against our own extremists - why don't you go do the same instead of preaching your supposed moral superiority? Why aren't you speaking out against your own extremists instead of lecturing us. We are already ashamed enough. We know what's wrong in our society. Your gloating doesn't have any effect on our situation - but it does reflect on your own.

It shows that you'd rather boast about how much better your secular freedomland is than Pakistan, instead of actually upholding the values you claim your country has and dealing with your extremists.


It's ironic, because a lot of the things Hamza Ali Abbasi says tend to upset the standard Pakistani Liberal brigade. Every so often there are posts calling him 'molvi sahib' and 'thekedar'.

Now when he is condemning religious extremism, he will be called a liberal secularist.

That's what happens when you try to be balanced and reasonable - you become Liberal Secular Fasadi and Thekedar Wahabi Molvi at the same time, like a politicised version of Schrodinger's Cat!

He almost balanced on his view WE do have a set of mind who want to be mader pider azad their nights open with bottles and partying all night Who thinking freedom of speech mean Jo Munh mein bhonk do " I never supported such actions but neither I have right by law or morally to harm them. Abbasi is a voice trying to make a bridge between two mentally we have and credit should be give where it due. Peace

 

[TankMan]

WE do have a set of mind who want to be mader pider azad their nights open with bottles and partying all night Who thinking freedom of speech mean Jo Munh mein bhonk do

Yes, true. I call them 'psuedo-liberals', and I often argue with them, only to get promptly labelled as "ghairat brigade thekedar Wahabi".

I never supported such actions but neither I have right by law or morally to harm them.

You are exactly right, that is what it says in the Quran as well:
"Hold to forgiveness, command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant." [Al Araf 7:199]

Abbasi is a voice trying to make a bridge between two mentally we have and credit should be give where it due. Peace

Yes, indeed.
Peace.