Mumbai Attacks

[Energon]

Since when india started trusting US more than USSR? Or was it india double crossign USSR all the way!

Russia is not involved in this investigation, only the US and the UK are, from what I understand. The relationship between the US and India started changing in the mid-late 90s.

Statements of our politicians supported indian claims, than why are they not helpful to u ?
When establishment issue statement u tell us Zardari lacks control and when only Zardari is speaking in ur favor, still it is not enough.
Can u be more precise how ur confidence on Pakistan establishment can be boosted ?

It is the conflicting news that is doing damage. I honestly do not know why Zardari made those comments, he has actually jeopardized Pakistan's position further. The point still remains that there is absolutely no faith in the Pakistani establishment and any attempts at cooperation will only result in an investigation being compromised.

 

[Incredible India]

Pak soldier among militants nabbed in Jammu

Jammu: Three terrorists of the Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) hailing from Pakistan, who were planning a suicide attack in this winter capital of Jammu and Kashmir, have been arrested. One of them is a Pakistani army regular, police said Tuesday.

"Three terrorists of the Jaish-e-Mohammad went from Karachi to Dhaka and to Kolkata and from there they came to Jammu Dec 20. On specific information, we arrested them from hotel Samrat in Jammu on Sunday," state Director General of Police Kuldeep Khoda said at a press conference here.

"One of the three has been identified as Ghulam Farid alias Gulshan Kumar, a sepoy in 10 Azad Kashmir regiment of Pakistan Army. His service number is 4319184," Khoda said.

The police officer said that Farid joined Pakistan Army in 2001 and was detailed for terrorist activities in 2005. Hailing from Bhimber in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (***), Farid was associated with Harkat-ul-Jehad-Islami, a pan Islamic terrorist group, before joining the army, said Khoda.

He was arrested along with other terrorists, namely Mohammad Abdullah belonging to Pakistan's North West Frontier Province and Mohammed Imran, who hails from Dera Nawab in Bahawalpur.

Khoda said that the three were trained and indoctrinated in Pakistan to carry out terror attacks in the city like the strike in Mumbai Nov 26. He added that their plans to execute their deadly plan was delayed because of a delay in the arrival of their contact from the Kashmir Valley, who was to give them weapons. The Kashmiri contact was also to deliver them an explosive-laden vehicle.

Their contact could not come from the Valley due to the closure of Srinagar-Jammu national highway Sunday, the official said.

"These three had come to Jammu and they were to meet a guide, who was to come from the Kashmir Valley to Jammu and provide them weapons for specific targetting. We will know the target after interrogation," Khoda said.

He added that preliminary interrogations have revealed the three have received specialised training in suicide attacks and driving explosive-laden vehicles.

Khoda said that Mohammad Abdullah and Mohammad Imran had booked rooms in Samrat hotel Dec 21 under fake names of Akhilesh Prasad and Inder Prakash respectively. The official added that they were trained by Mufti Abdul Rauf, brother of JeM founder Masood Azhar.

Arrested in India on a false passport, Azhar was among the militants exchanged for passengers of an Indian Airlines flight that was hijacked to Kandahar in December 1999. Rauf had arranged for their fake passports and visa.

The three stayed in a hotel near the railway station when they reached Dec 20 and they shifted to Samrat hotel the next day on the instructions from their handlers, Khoda said.

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My God, wht would had happen if they were successful in their mission..

 

[was]

Pak soldier among militants nabbed in Jammu

Jammu: Three terrorists of the Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) hailing from Pakistan, who were planning a suicide attack in this winter capital of Jammu and Kashmir, have been arrested. One of them is a Pakistani army regular, police said Tuesday.

"Three terrorists of the Jaish-e-Mohammad went from Karachi to Dhaka and to Kolkata and from there they came to Jammu Dec 20. On specific information, we arrested them from hotel Samrat in Jammu on Sunday," state Director General of Police Kuldeep Khoda said at a press conference here.

"One of the three has been identified as Ghulam Farid alias Gulshan Kumar, a sepoy in 10 Azad Kashmir regiment of Pakistan Army. His service number is 4319184," Khoda said.

The police officer said that Farid joined Pakistan Army in 2001 and was detailed for terrorist activities in 2005. Hailing from Bhimber in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (***), Farid was associated with Harkat-ul-Jehad-Islami, a pan Islamic terrorist group, before joining the army, said Khoda.

He was arrested along with other terrorists, namely Mohammad Abdullah belonging to Pakistan's North West Frontier Province and Mohammed Imran, who hails from Dera Nawab in Bahawalpur.

Khoda said that the three were trained and indoctrinated in Pakistan to carry out terror attacks in the city like the strike in Mumbai Nov 26. He added that their plans to execute their deadly plan was delayed because of a delay in the arrival of their contact from the Kashmir Valley, who was to give them weapons. The Kashmiri contact was also to deliver them an explosive-laden vehicle.

Their contact could not come from the Valley due to the closure of Srinagar-Jammu national highway Sunday, the official said.

"These three had come to Jammu and they were to meet a guide, who was to come from the Kashmir Valley to Jammu and provide them weapons for specific targetting. We will know the target after interrogation," Khoda said.

He added that preliminary interrogations have revealed the three have received specialised training in suicide attacks and driving explosive-laden vehicles.

Khoda said that Mohammad Abdullah and Mohammad Imran had booked rooms in Samrat hotel Dec 21 under fake names of Akhilesh Prasad and Inder Prakash respectively. The official added that they were trained by Mufti Abdul Rauf, brother of JeM founder Masood Azhar.

Arrested in India on a false passport, Azhar was among the militants exchanged for passengers of an Indian Airlines flight that was hijacked to Kandahar in December 1999. Rauf had arranged for their fake passports and visa.

The three stayed in a hotel near the railway station when they reached Dec 20 and they shifted to Samrat hotel the next day on the instructions from their handlers, Khoda said.

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My God, wht would had happen if they were successful in their mission..

here we go another drama by indians
they want show to the world that pak army is sending terrorists,when more more of there own armymen are bieng captured for terrorist activities
when these indian will fnish this and stop trying to impose their hagemony and let live in peace all it,s nieghbours

 

[RedBaron]

Let me try and get the discussion back to something more worthy of debate:
In the event of all-out hostilities, India could wage a "war of attrition" - with superior financial resources, it could prolong the war to the point where the Pak war machine literally runs out of fuel. Of course, India would also pay a huge cost, but Pakistan, due to its weaker economic condition, would probably go bankrupt sooner assuming it has smaller strategic fuel reserves. Does anyone know whether Pak has any guarantees from KSA/Iran/China with respect to war-time fuel? I mention fuel because recent price cuts notwithstanding, this probably is the largest variable cost component.

 

[A.Rahman]

Indian "cmohan" has been shot down.

and I "fixed" his post

 

[AliFarooq]

I think every mod should do what u did, lol that was way tooo funny

 

[ejaz007]

India has not shared any evidence of attack: Interpol
Updated at: 0545 PST, Wednesday, December 24, 2008


NEW DELHI: Interpol chief General Ronald K Noble said in Islamabad on Tuesday that India had neither shared any evidence about the involvement of Pakistani nationals in the Mumbai attacks nor given any names to the agency.

While it may surprise some, the fact remains that even approaching the France-based global agency in the past has been of little help for India.

According to senior Indian police and security officials, it's neither mandatory nor a norm to share probe details with Interpol. "Whether or not to approach Interpol is entirely up to the country concerned. Even after the role of an accused is established and he is charge sheeted, there are other ways of nabbing him, like issuing a letter rogatory to the country where he might be hiding," a senior police officer said.

CBI chief Ashwani Kumar said the agency had not shared any information with Interpol because it did not want to give half-baked findings to the international agency. "We did share some (basic) information with Interpol. But unless the investigation is complete, how can we share the full details?" he said.

India has not shared any evidence of attack: Interpol

 

[A.Rahman]

I think every mod should do what u did, lol that was way tooo funny

may that be a lesson to members who want to bash Pakistan on Pakistani forum.

 

[dr.rehan]

Let me try and get the discussion back to something more worthy of debate:
In the event of all-out hostilities, India could wage a "war of attrition" - with superior financial resources, it could prolong the war to the point where the Pak war machine literally runs out of fuel. Of course, India would also pay a huge cost, but Pakistan, due to its weaker economic condition, would probably go bankrupt sooner assuming it has smaller strategic fuel reserves. Does anyone know whether Pak has any guarantees from KSA/Iran/China with respect to war-time fuel? I mention fuel because recent price cuts notwithstanding, this probably is the largest variable cost component.

How much fuel do you think Pakistan would need to launch 100 Missile with Warheads + a few with no warheads your way at the same time? Do you think Pakistan wont launch them, and that they are just for decorations? Its not in Indias best interest to launch a war against Pakistan. 71 senario was different. If we had a option such as Nuke's back then, do you really think you would have won?

You better pray that the "Button Pushers" on our side wait longer. I myself am a very trigger happy person. One alone like me can sink your nation to beyond stone-age...

India has sooo much more to lose on this war then Pakistan does. It seems as if you dont count the fact that we will inn fact throw anything possible from our country into your country. Loss in war is no longer a possible outcome of a war between Pakistan and India.

The only possible outcome now is COMPLETE obliteration, annihilation, devastation and destruction if all Nukes are used. So what if 100 people stand tall left in the whole india, where all the others have been evaporated.. Do you think they would be celebrating a India victory????

You need to wake up and stay that way, and try to understand that you can NOT win any war with Pakistan, certainly not by military force, perhaps economy like US did to Russia after russias fall. It really does not matter what you have in your arsenal no more.

Now calculate how much fuel we really need for this, and please update us all.

 

[skybolt]

I agree with You Ahmed Bhai, please help us identify the Camps in India and we will work together with PAF, meanwhile lets together strike in Kashmir and other places in Pak territory.

OK Jarnee
u r rite..... for the above... but first lets strike together on the following organisations working in India...

LIST OF ORGANISATIONS IN INDIA DECLARED AS TERRORIST ORGANISATIONS UNDER THE UNLAWFUL ACTIVITIES (PREVENTION) ACT

1. United Liberation Front of Assam ( ULFA )
2. National Democratic Front of Bodoland ( NDFB ) in Assam
3. People’s Liberation Army ( PLA )
4. United National Liberation Front ( UNLF )
5. People’s Revolutionary party of Kangleipak ( PREPAK )
6. Kangleipak Communist Party (KCP)
7. Kanglei Yaol Kanba Lup ( KYKL )
8. Manipur People’s Liberation Front ( MPLF )
9. Revolutionary People’s Front (RPF ) in Manipur
10. All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF)
11. National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT ) in Tripura
12. Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council (HNLC)
13. Achik National Volunteer Council ( ANVC ) in Meghalaya
14. Babbar Khalsa International
15. Khalistan Commando Force
16. International Sikh Youth Federation
17. Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
18 Students Islamic Movement Of India
19. Deendar Anjuman
20. Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist)-People’s War, All Its Formations And Front rganisations
21. Maoist Communist Centre (MCC), All Its Formations And Front Organisations
22. Tamil Nadu Liberation Army (TNLA)
23. Tamil National Retrieval Troops (TNRT)
24. Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj (ABNES)
25. Peoples Progressive Party (PPP)/Peoples Progressive Party Civic (PPP-C), All Its Formations And Front Organisations

 

[RedBaron]

How much fuel do you think Pakistan would need to launch 100 Missile with Warheads your way? Do you think Pakistan wont launch them, and that they are just for decorations? Its not in Indias best interest to launch a war against Pakistan. 71 senario was different. If we had a option such as Nuke's back then, do you really think you would have won?

You better pray that the "Button Pushers" on our side wait longer. I myself am a very trigger happy person. One alone like me can sink your country to beyond stone-age...

India has sooo much more to lose on this war then Pakistan does. It seems as if you dont count the fact that we will innfact throw anything possible from our country into your country. Loss in war is nolonger a possible outcome of a war between Pakistan and India.

The only possible outcome now is COMPLETE obliteration, annihilation, devastation and destruction. So what if 100 people stand tall left in the whole india, where all the others have been evaporated.. Do you think they would be celebrating a India victory???? You ********* need to wake, and understand you can win no more war wages on Pakistan. It really does not matter what you have in your arsenal no more....

Now calculate how much fuel we really need, and please update us all.

Please, let's not get into the nuclear weapons disussion. It has been talked about elsewhere by people much smarter and more mature than yourself.
You claim that you alone can sink a country back to the stone age?
I don't know what you're smoking, son. But for sure, you are in no position to debate anything right now.
I'll pass, thank you... and wait for someone more sober to respond to my post...

 

[skybolt]

Dear Jarnee

all the red marked areas are our targets...... let’s have a combine strike ...

 

[dr.rehan]

Please, let's not get into the nuclear weapons disussion. It has been talked about elsewhere by people much smarter and more mature than yourself.
You claim that you alone can sink ANY country back to the stone age? I don't know what you're smoking, but obviously you are in no position to debate anything right now.
I'll pass and wait for someone more sober to respond to my post thank you.

Mr. RED - BABOON

I am the doc here, so lets leave out the smoking stuff talk okay.. If you dont accept the reality of the PAK NUKE factor, then your the one actually that has been SMOKING and need to sober up, and come back to this board at a later time....So stop reading and be back when you sober up..

Okay..
Now that you sobered up, Answer me properly you indian f*** , How much fuel does Pakistan need to put an end to any war started by india, by launching 100 Missile with warheads? ( You say you have had enough of NUKE talk you Bhindu. And what if i have had enough of this stupid little BS issue you raised to get some attention on this board about fuel.)

And why dont you count Pakistani NUKES in a war senario? Do you really think you can win with 100 NUKES up your ars...? (bla.bla.bhindu.talk....lets not talk about this coz it has been debated before coz i get sooo scared of Pak Nukes!, so i rather not debate the subject..!! I was answering you properly you low life, low cast, cow piss drinker.. And i painted an exact picture for you, on how much fuel My country really needs to kick your butt)....DO YOU COMPREHEND:.........?

The only time you will see me Smoking and high, is when you will see formations of 100 Mushroom clouds developed over India. That's when i will be flying over that area and inhaling the smoke, even if it kills me... Smoking kills, you know...

And what qualifies you to determine if i can have this little nuke chat on this board or not.

This is a PAKISTANI Board. I am PAKISTANI... I will discuss anything in the best interest for My NATION on this board. Now go and set the tone on an indian board.

On DEFENCE.PK, you better be as nice as those Bhindus that got ruled by us for 1000 years... Do not take our hospitality for our weakness. And always remember the history on what a minority of Muslims did to a Majority Of Bhindus for 1000 years..

And anytime you ever wanna ask this question again on how much fuel we really need, please feel free to look up this and the earlier post, or PM me you CPD..

 

[cmohan_02]

all the red marked areas are our targets...... let’s have a combine strike ...

Dear Skybolt,

Pardon my ignorance, please let me know what those naxals or terrorists living in red marked areas of India did to Pakistan, that you want to bomb them.

Thank you for your reply.

 

[dr.rehan]

Dear Skybolt,

Pardon my ignorance, please let me know what those naxals or terrorists living in red marked areas of India did to Pakistan, that you want to bomb them.

Thank you for your reply.

Some of them came to Pakistan to stirr trouble. All were killed, and one was left to tell after a **** load of beating that he was an indian Terrorist...

Later ISI found a few satellite phone on some of these dead indian terrorists, with calls tracked back to India.. Thats our proof. Thats why we want to take out those red marked areas. I hope you believe in these "facts"... Now go back and read up again on the real story why we would like to take out those red areas you CPD.

Your welcome..