Mumbai Attacks

[Imran Khan]

Dont let him go once he land his feet.........

your PM reqesting and reqesting for help boss and transfer of inteligence so he is the best inteligent of pakistan must be his feets on indian land

 

[Chanakya.10]

-The Government is also saying that the ISI is involved in the terror attack. They have hard evidence regarding this.

Very interesting situation developing!

Yes the situation is indeed interestingly developing.... Lot of things will change in the time that's coming..............

Indian attitude towards these cowardly attacks will also change as can be seen by the anger among the public..........


All i want is that evidence is hard enough.........

 

[josh18]

As a Yankee, without a dog in this fight, I find the interplay between the Indian and Pakistani forum members amazing. Do you each really believe half the propaganda about the other that you spout here? Or is this just playful banter? Being so antagonistic to a neighbor, or even another country's people, is so foreign to me that I cannot imagine what you must teach your children. Not since WWII, when Americans truly hated the Japanese and Germans, have we had this level of invective against another country and its people. Even at the height of the Cold War with the Soviets, individual Americans did not hate the Russians or Chinese. We didn't even hate the Vietnamese! If you guys are representative of your populations true feelings, then South Asian tranquility is many generations off. That's too bad.

Agree with you... but did you said Russians?? every other hollywood action movie of 80's had a Russian bad guy..

 

[Awesome]

Hemant Kakre's widow blasted Narendra Modi who went for condolences. I think she suspects the same. This drama was to kill Kakre.

 

[fatman17]

Now instead of appreciating this gesture, you have come up with an utterly BS theory of your own that speaks of your kindergarten mentality….

its called a rigid mindset!

i get the feeling that the indians think we are doing this from a position of "weakness". on the contrary, this requires india and pakistan to really show that we want to exist as peaceful neighbours on even terms.

 

[Neo]

NDTV encouraging terrorism against Muslims!!!!!!!!

Jai "Secular" Hind!!!

 

[Awesome]

AFAIK, the troops pulled back after Musharraf promised to not allow any territory under Pakistani control for use in terror against India for the first time.

You remember wrong. Musharraf banned the organizations right after the attack.

But the 1 million Indian troops gave up after 10 months and the standoff was causing them to go suicidal and homicidal.

 

[josh18]

Jai "Secular" Hind!!!

Cannot be true...NDTV is a responsible news channel...some one has misinterpreted... and also I hate this word 'Secular' this word has been so much used by politicians that it has lost its meaning.

 

[was]

-The Government is also saying that the ISI is involved in the terror attack. They have hard evidence regarding this.

Very interesting situation developing!

 

[dr.umer]

Terrorists Paralyze India's Business Capital ​

28 Nov 2008

Wall Street Journal

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While not mentioning Pakistan by name, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh pledged to "take up strongly with our neighbors that the use of their territory for launching attacks on us will not be tolerated."

Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani have both condemned the bloodshed in Mumbai.

The scale and sophistication of the Mumbai attacks, as well as the choice of targets, however, appeared to point to a more insidious threat that the Indian government has been reluctant to acknowledge so far -- the potential involvement of extremists within the country's own Muslim community, which, at 150 million, is the world's third-largest after Indonesia and Pakistan. It is also one of India's most economically and politically disadvantaged minorities.

In a statement that couldn't be independently authenticated, a previously unknown group, the Deccan Mujahideen, claimed responsibility for the Mumbai operation, describing itself as hailing from the south Indian city of Hyderabad. Hyderabad was the world's largest Muslim-ruled monarchy until it was invaded and annexed by India in 1948.

Indian security officials cast doubt on this statement, saying that the attacks bore the hallmarks of Al Qaeda and Pakistani militant groups. They also claimed to have found a boat on which ammunition for the attacks was allegedly smuggled from Pakistan. That couldn't be confirmed.

While independent security experts said it's likely that the attackers received some support from like-minded radicals in Pakistan, they also stressed that such a massive operation would have been nearly impossible without a deep-rooted local network inside India itself.

"It would be extremely difficult for foreigners to come in and operate in this manner," said Rohan Gunaratna, head of the International Center for Political Violence and Terrorism Research in Singapore. "They certainly had intimate knowledge of the city. The pre-eminent threat to India is home-grown."

Christine Fair, a South Asia specialist at the Rand Corp. think tank, added that the modus operandi of the Mumbai militants -- coordinated small-arms assaults and hostage-takings, rather that suicide bombings -- didn't match the signature of the best known Pakistani militant groups or Al Qaeda.

"I think it's very much a home-grown attack," she said. "There are very deep and unresolved social justice issues for Indian Muslims. They have a lot of motivation."

India's Muslims, some of them still nostalgic for a medieval golden age when most of the subcontinent was under Muslim dominion, are among the country's poorest communities, partly because much of the Muslim professional class emigrated to Pakistan at partition in 1947.

In addition to being disproportionately targeted in outbreaks of religious violence, they are severely underrepresented in the country's government bureaucracy, universities and security services. On literacy scores, young Indian Muslims now lag behind even the country's historically most disadvantaged group, the Dalits, or Hinduism's "untouchables."

While only a small minority of Indian Muslims supports violence, the community is often represented by hardline clerics in India's interest-group brand of politics, where caste and religion-based "vote banks" frequently trump political platforms and ideologies. The global campaign against Salman Rushdie's "Satanic Verses" was launched by an Indian Muslim politician in 1988. Last year, Bangladeshi feminist writer Taslima Nasrin was expelled from Calcutta and eventually had to leave India because of violent protests organized against her by Indian Muslim community leaders who described her writings as disrespectful of Islam.

The biggest previous terror attack in Mumbai, a series of bombings in 1993, was organized by mostly Muslim organized-crime syndicates to avenge deadly anti-Muslim pogroms in the city. Hundreds of Muslims were killed in another wave of communal rioting in the Indian state of Gujarat in 2002.

In following years, bombings and shootings attributed to Islamic militants became increasingly frequent in India, hitting the capital of New Delhi, information-technology hubs Bangalore and Hyderabad, and Mumbai itself.

Report Continues....

 

[TruthSeeker]

Agree with you... but did you said Russians?? every other hollywood action movie of 80's had a Russian bad guy..

I'm sure you realize that "Hollywood" deals in fantasy and exaggeration. The villains of Hollywood are extreme characterizations of what ordinary Americans may think. Story lines always need villains from somewhere. In "politically correct (PC)" America it is increasingly difficult to find acceptable villains that do not have some "anti-defamation". Today jihadis fill that role, thanks to Osama bin laden providing Hollywood with a PC prototype!

 

[Awesome]

As a Yankee, without a dog in this fight, I find the interplay between the Indian and Pakistani forum members amazing. Do you each really believe half the propaganda about the other that you spout here? Or is this just playful banter? Being so antagonistic to a neighbor, or even another country's people, is so foreign to me that I cannot imagine what you must teach your children. Not since WWII, when Americans truly hated the Japanese and Germans, have we had this level of invective against another country and its people. Even at the height of the Cold War with the Soviets, individual Americans did not hate the Russians or Chinese. We didn't even hate the Vietnamese! If you guys are representative of your populations true feelings, then South Asian tranquility is many generations off. That's too bad.

You have to understand that the media of each country openly has promoted this kind of behavior since our inception. That is what is happening here I believe. Indians need an enemy and they are brain washed to believe we are it since birth.

Not that it is any different for Pakistanis.

 

[fatman17]

the potential involvement of extremists within the country's own Muslim community, which, at 150 million, is the world's third-largest after Indonesia and Pakistan. It is also one of India's most economically and politically disadvantaged minorities.

why do such statements keep coming up in all the articles posted on this thread!

 

[josh18]

I'm sure you realize that "Hollywood" deals in fantasy and exaggeration. The villains of Hollywood are extreme characterizations of what ordinary Americans may think. Story lines always need villains from somewhere. In "politically correct (PC)" America it is increasingly difficult to find acceptable villains that do not have some "anti-defamation". Today jihadis fill that role, thanks to Osama bin laden providing Hollywood with a PC prototype!

So you are accepting that Americans disliked russians due to cold war and now dislike muslims becuse of war on terror....I hate double standards of USA.

 

[Vinod2070]

You remember wrong. Musharraf banned the organizations right after the attack.

But the 1 million Indian troops gave up after 10 months and the standoff was causing them to go suicidal and homicidal.

While the operation was no big success, here are the facts:

Following India's move, Pakistan responded by moving large numbers of its troops from the border with Afghanistan, where they had been trying to contain Taliban and Al Qaeda fighters, to the Indian border. In late December, both countries moved ballistic missiles closer to each other's border, and mortar and artillery fire was reported in Kashmir.[7] By January 2002, India had mobilized around 500,000 troops and three armored divisions on the Pakistani border concentrated along the Line of Control in Kashmir. Pakistan responded similarly, deploying around 120,000 troops to that region.[8] This was the largest buildup on the subcontinent since the 1971 war.

On January 12, 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf gave a speech intended to reduce tensions with India. He declared the Pakistan would combat extremism on its own soil, but said that Pakistan had a right to Kashmir.[9] Indian leaders reacted with skepticism. Minister of State for External Affairs Omar Abdullah said that the speech was nothing new, and others said that it would 'not make any change in the Indian stand'.[10] Still, tensions eased somewhat. The Indian President told his generals that there would be no attack "for now."

2001?2002 India?Pakistan standoff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The forces came back after Musharraf's promise that was not kept like others.