Mumbai Attacks

[srijeesh]

Look srijeesh my friend, first of all u need to bring ur tone down at goverment level, you sholud not allegate pakistan`s involvement in Mumbai, as u know terriost has no nationality-even if it is ture that Ajaml is pakistani, as we are fighting the war within ourselve and we are the biggest victim coutesy US-, 9/11 was carried out by 7 Saudis, that did not make saudi-a-arabia a terriost state, so if u think u will send armitage type character and dictate terms it wont happen neither threating will do the jod nor blackmailing will surve the purpose,

as far as credibility is concern as u and solomon has mentioned, volume of efforts menitoned in my above post speaks the truth n we can not n will not do more. i wish as this mumbai story unveiled the indian goverment had act sensibily by not agitating, making a huge propoganda out of it things could have been different- if all of this is true as Colonel Prohit was a traitor.
i give u my words, if there is pakistan goverment involvment in it, than i will stand by the views of indian general public but until this it has not been proven in court of law,then my friend i would love to differ and u n world need to understand it that let thigns be proved first and then we draw conclusion not jumping to them.

ok, since you come across as a moderate and a sensible person, lets discuss in a fair and frank way.
as soon as the 'mumbai' happened india had indications that this was outside job, specifically pakistan. even then, india didnt directly accuse pakistan or its govt. it only said that some 'elements' within pakistan might be responsible. this is similar to line by your prez about 'non-state actors'.
then india asked/requested that ISI chief be sent to india for joint investigation. pakistan agreed.
but backtracked later. this was the first jolt to pakistan's credibility. if pakistan had sent the ISI chief then indian govt would have been more than happy to give all the evidence even before asked. then, media(indian and pakistani) was reporting that qasab was a pakistan and his father accepted that fact before camera. but GOP refused to accept it. qasab wrote to pak consulate in india for legal help, but pakistan declined help saying that qasab is not a pakistani. when durrani accepted that qasab is a pakistani on a channel, he was sacked.
all this has lead to grave suspicions about the intentions of pakistani establishment. zardari has asked for foreign help in investigating BB's assasination, why was the investigation not done by you agencies. obviously, they are not trusted. when you dont trust them, how do you expect others to do so?
as for the tone of indian politicians, you have to sympathise with our plight. we were still smarting under an attack of such brutality. even, then india showed great restraint and has asked your govt to complete the investigation and give it a report.

wat did US do, when it was attacked similarly in 9/11? compare it with indian reaction.

 

[Pk_Thunder]

Mumbai probe going in right direction: Ban Ki-moon​

Updated at: 2220 PST, Wednesday, February 04, 2009
ISLAMABAD: Secretary General of the United Nations Ban Ki-moon Wednesday expressed his satisfaction over Pakistan’s investigations into Mumbai attacks.

Addressing a joint press conference with Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani here, he urged Pakistan to cooperate with India in its probe into the Mumbai incident.

On the occasion, the Prime Minster said Pakistan is against terrorism in all its forms and manifestations and those who commit criminal acts outside the country will also be brought to justice.

Ban Ki-moon described the Kashmir standoff as the most important issue of South Asia and appreciated Pakistan’s role in war on terror.

PM Yousuf Raza Gilani said Pakistan is committed not to allowing use of its territory for terrorist activities.

The UN Chief termed the PM’s statement issued two days ago regarding formation of legislation for bringing to trial even those elements who perpetrate crimes outside Pakistan. However, the Prime Minister on the occasion said he had discussed this with the Interior Minister who had informed that an Act already exists in this regard.

 

[zombie:-)]

I find it hard to believe that perhaps aliens from Mars plotted these attacks?

WHEN DID OUR NEIGHBORING STATE GO TO MARS MATE

no offence

thanx

 

[Salahadin]

LONDON: Describing "organisers" of Mumbai and Kabul embassy attacks as "clients and creations" of Pakistan's ISI, India has said those behind the

carnages are known to prepare for strikes across the world and cautioned against any "compromise" with such forces. ( Watch )

India also indicated its opposition to the sale of arms to Pakistan by the US and others in the name of fight against terrorism and extremism, saying such supplies were "totally unrelated" to objective meant for and rather act as "whisky to an alcoholic, a drug reinforcing an addiction".

Addressing an international conference in Paris on Wednesday, foreign secretary Shivshankar Menon said "we, in India, are next to the epicentre of international terrorism in Pakistan."

India has "directly suffered the consequences of linkages and relationships among terrorist organisations, their support structures, official sponsors and funding mechanisms, which transcend national borders but operate within them," he said in a clear reference to Pakistan.

"Any compromise with such forces, howsoever, pragmatic or opportune it might appear momentarily, only encourages them," Menon said at the Institute Francais des Relations Internationales (IFRI).

Referring to the Mumbai terror strikes and the Kabul embassy attack last July, Menon said "in each case, the perpetrators planned, trained and launched their attacks from Pakistan, and the organisers were and remain clients and creations of the ISI."

The foreign secretary said two months after the Mumbai attacks and one month after India presented a "dossier of evidence" linking the attacks to elements in Pakistan, "we still await a response from the Pakistani authorities, and prevarication continues".

Describing the "polity beside us" as "fragile and unfinished", Menon said "there is much that the international community can do to help.

"For instance, arms sales to Pakistan totally unrelated to the fight against terrorism or extremism are like whisky to an alcoholic, a drug reinforcing an addiction, skewing the internal political balance and making the consolidation of democracy more difficult."

This was apparently a message to the US and some other western countries which are selling arms to Pakistan in the name of fight against terrorism.

Underlining that India was seeking a peaceful periphery in "our own interest", he said New Delhi will work with all those in Pakistan and the international community who further that goal.

 

[Patriot]

Hmm I thought India does not need Western countries help to hurt Pakistan...

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Yeesh - they don't stop from spreading lies and distortions do they.

And then the Indians wonder why Pakistanis are upset.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

"For instance, arms sales to Pakistan totally unrelated to the fight against terrorism or extremism are like whisky to an alcoholic, a drug reinforcing an addiction, skewing the internal political balance and making the consolidation of democracy more difficult."

This was apparently a message to the US and some other western countries which are selling arms to Pakistan in the name of fight against terrorism.

Oh right, more whining and tantrums over weapons sales to Pakistan.

Heavens forbid we have the ability to defend ourselves from Indian warmongers and aggression.

Someone pass the whiskey please!

 

[s90]

Yes they are,do whatever u like

 

[Lockheed F-16]

They are more kinda creation of RAW, aren't they?

 

[Flintlock]

Yeesh - they don't stop from spreading lies and distortions do they.

And then the Indians wonder why Pakistanis are upset.

You still want to deny that the ISI trains and equips militants?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

By the way, we make some excellent whiskey of our own in Pakistan!

Pakistan brewery produces Muslim world's first 20-year whisky​

By Isambard Wilkinson in Rawalpindi
Last Updated: 1:32AM GMT 26 Feb 2007

Murree's whisky, Pakistan brewery produces Muslim world's first 20-year whisky​

Murree's malt will be true to its name of 'Rarest'

The Islamic republic of Pakistan has won the distinction of producing the Muslim world's first 20-year-old malt whisky.

The Murree Brewery in Rawalpindi, founded in 1860 to make ale and spirits for soldiers during the British Raj, is the only producer of whisky and beer in a constitutionally Muslim country.

Despite a torrid history in which it has been burnt down by Muslim protesters and temporarily shut down in an Islamist purge, the Murree brewery has survived against the odds and has previously produced celebrated eight and 12-year-old single malts.

"Few distilleries in the world, even the high-end ones in Scotland, produce 20-year-old malts," said Minnoo Bhandara, the Parsee businessman whose family has run the brewery since the creation of Pakistan at the partition of British India in 1947.

Officially, the 20-year malt will be true to its name of "Rarest".

Under Pakistani law it cannot be drunk by 97 per cent of the country and it cannot be exported.

But the production of the rare whisky has coincided with an unprecedented debate in Pakistan about the prohibition on drinking alcohol. In 1977 the former prime minister, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, bowed to the demands of Islamic political parties and imposed an alcohol ban on Muslims.

Since then the brewery has officially been catering for the three per cent of Pakistan's population that comprises of the non-Muslim communities of Christians, Hindus and those of Mr Bhandara's Zoroastrian faith.

However, the ingenuity of thirsty Pakistanis means that rather a lot of the 660,000 gallons of beer that Murree produces every year and the 110,000 gallons of whisky that is stored in its cellars reaches a Muslim clientele.

"I think 99 per cent of my customers are Muslim," said Mr Bhandara, who is an Oxford-educated MP.

The official punishment sanctioned by the Koran of 80 lashes with an oil-soaked whip has never been applied.

The unexpected debate on drinking was sparked earlier this month by Ali Akbar Wains, a maverick parliamentarian, who suggested in the national assembly that by banning the "minor evil" of alcohol, the government had helped the "major evil" of drugs to flourish in the country.

The call to legalise drinking alcohol was taken up by the likes of Mr Bhandara, who has long battled against the so-called "Teetotalitarian" state.

Mr Bhandara said that the debate was "one of the best things that has happened to this country." But he sees little hope of progress. "The subject of drinking will stir up a hornet's nest," he said, adding that Pakistan will maintain its ban on exporting alcohol.

In the coming months Murree beer will be available in Indian restaurants in Britain under the slogan "Have a Murree With Your Curry" after a deal struck with a Belgian brewer to produce the drink under licence.

Pakistan brewery produces Muslim world's first 20-year whisky - Telegraph

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[Flintlock]

"Have a Murree with your Curry". Very funny. But its not going to sell any whiskey.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Posted images up there ..

 

[Vinod2070]

Oh right, more whining and tantrums over weapons sales to Pakistan.

Heavens forbid we have the ability to defend ourselves from Indian warmongers and aggression.

Someone pass the whiskey please!

 

[srijeesh]

isnt this wat everyone is saying? why target only indian leaders?