Multan Bar Association Bars Non-Muslim Lawyers From Contesting Bar Elections

[Trango Towers]

judicial system of Pakistan is based on british colonial legal system when they invaded subcontinent so this system is responsible for such matters as these lawyers not belong to Islamic judicial system

Come to pakistan and you will see islam as per these jahils in action. Bribe central

 

[HAIDER]

Because for them we are foreigners. When they run this country to the ground like termites eating away. They will fly to their true homes in Europe and north America, to live in their villas.

And its easy to handle emotionally charged people..................... like majority of us Pakistani...

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

And its easy to handle emotionally charged people..................... like majority of us Pakistani...

Because the se people also control the education system. People are systematically made into slaves

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I would argue the same for mormons and scientologists.

The mobs are neither controlled by the mullahs nor the state. These are grave sensitive matter for an average Muslim to entertain the thought of mahdi claimants, 2nd incarnation of jesus or direct interaction with God in a prophetic manner.

these are by law considered cults in the entire planet not just specific to Pakistan.

we are a responsible state if need be reminding

The difference is that in the US the State doesn’t tell the Mormons and Scientologists what to call themselves or what to call their places of worship. If Mormons want to call themselves Christian, then they’re able to.

 

[HAIDER]

The thing is, when Federal laws discriminate against non-Muslims at the highest level (cannot become PM or President) when our society forces the PM to remove an Ahmadi (Atif Mian) from an economic advisory position, then you’re going to see such attitudes at the lower level too. You can’t disconnect the two.

I’m not saying that Ahmadis are Muslim, nor am I saying that people should accept them as Muslim if they don’t believe they are, but the State should not be in the business of deciding who is a Muslim. Let Allah be the judge of someone’s faith.

Agree, that personal believes shouldn't interfere in check of one's performance. If religion is issue, then stop flying F16 and Chinese products. We have extreme majority of hypocrites .

 

[El Sidd]

The difference is that in the US the State doesn’t tell the Mormons and Scientologists what to call themselves or what to call their places of worship. If Mormons want to call themselves Christian, then they’re able to.

They cannot legally claim themselves to be Christians still in the eyes of law.

Idealism will not lead you to a rainbow with treasure hidden underneath.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

They cannot legally claim themselves to be Christians still in the eyes of law.

Idealism will not lead you to a rainbow with treasure hidden underneath.

They cannot legally claim themselves to be Christians still in the eyes of law.

Idealism will not lead you to a rainbow with treasure hidden underneath.

What law prevents Mormons from calling themselves Christian in the US?

 

[El Sidd]

What law prevents Mormons from calling themselves Christian in the US?

Association to Church is a legal procedure.

Please man you think this is the biggest issue facing Pakistan? That a doomsday cult who first got recognition as a separate religion now wants secularism to ensure some on paper rights of equal citizens just so they can become head of state?

People are dying of hunger in Pakistan and their bodies looted after burial and this is where you have chosen to draw the line?

Gheez man talk about priorities

 

[American Pakistani]

Shameful and disgraceful.

It is time we declare religion has nothing to do with the business of the state.

 

[El Sidd]

It is time we declare religion has nothing to do with the business of the state.

Who is this we? Trump and Imran Khan?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

People are dying of hunger in Pakistan and their bodies looted after burial and this is where you have chosen to draw the line?

Gheez man talk about priorities

Association with the Church is the Church's prerogative, not the government's. Mainstream Islamic sects can continue to believe what they want about Ahmadi's, the State however has no business passing declarations on someones faith.

With respect to priorities, we can multitask.

 

[El Sidd]

Association with the Church is the Church's prerogative, not the government's. Mainstream Islamic sects can continue to believe what they want about Ahmadi's, the State however has no business passing declarations on someones faith.

With respect to priorities, we can multitask.

State has the prerogative to define who is a Muslim and who is not. Without that the State cannot give them their rights as they may demand under freedom of religion.

State is not defining Islam. It is only defining what is the most consensus based definition among the Muslims as to what defines a Muslim.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

State has the prerogative to define who is a Muslim and who is not. Without that the State cannot give them their rights as they may demand under freedom of religion.

The State is responsible for providing rights irrespective of faith so therefore has no prerogative to define who is a Muslim or who is not. Religion/faith is up to the individual and a personal issue - the State has no business defining it for its citizens - that is the job of clerics etc.

State is not defining Islam. It is only defining what is the most consensus based definition among the Muslims as to what defines a Muslim.

It is none of the State's business, consensus definition or not, to define what is Islam or what is a Muslim. That is up to the individual and between the individual and their god.

 

[El Sidd]

The State is responsible for providing rights irrespective of faith so therefore has no prerogative to define who is a Muslim or who is not. Religion/faith is up to the individual and a personal issue - the State has no business defining it for its citizens - that is the job of clerics etc.

It is a social issue as they claim personal laws based on their religion.

It is none of the State's business, consensus definition or not, to define what is Islam or what is a Muslim. That is up to the individual and between the individual and their god.

It is the States business to classify the demographics of the populace for distribution of rights and resources.

People who are considered non compliant to anglo saxon culture do not get full rights as citizens of the united states. I do not see them getting all the media attention nor the United States being told it has no right to define any of this.

It is easy to throw around Muslims and their claims for a homeland in 2020