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Here is the story from Dawn > Imran Khan rejects Hasba, women rights bills - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

Google women protection bill too.

Here is his declaration to repel hudood ordinance altogether (don't forget he will get complete support from PPP, MQM, ANP and many other left leaning parties if he goes for it today - but it was another publicity stunt like many other).

Source: Imran Khan calls Salman Rushdie a ‘self-hating’ Muslim – The Express Tribune
"According to the interviewer, there was a “small explosion of anger” when Khan was asked about his stance on women’s rights as he refused to support the Hudood Ordinance. Khan said he would repeal the Hudood law altogether if he is elected.

When Khan was told that many liberal-minded people in Pakistan are worried about his positions, Khan exclaimed: “Morons!”

First you have to guarantee basic social and economic rights before you get to gender rights! What is the point of these NGO workers showing up in conservative tribal areas wearing blue jeans?!”


Thats right Gender rights can wait :D
You have read the contents and made an effort to understand his reasoning or just read the spicy title? Looks like the latter only.
 
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Here is the story from Dawn > Imran Khan rejects Hasba, women rights bills - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

Google women protection bill too.
Do you know the differences between Hasba bill and the Hudood Ordinance?

They are opposite to each other....If it is true IK objected it that is kind of good! It gave more power to the bearded uneducated molvis who dont have an qualifications but just the support of many people! The Hasba bill wouldnt have stood ....


From your article:
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The Protection of Women’s Rights Bill, he said, had been passed to introduce a ‘made-in-Washington Islamic system in the country. It is also aimed at dividing the opposition parties. If a law related to women had been in place for more than 26 years, why it was not allowed to continu for one more year?” he said.

“We had never accepted the amended bill that had been passed by the National Assembly because it had not been endorsed by an elected parliament,” he said.

Referring to the Hasba Bill, he said that if the provincial MMA government was really interested in resolving public issues, it should have concentrated on strengthening the judicial system and reforming the police department, instead of passing a controversial law. He was speaking at the oath-taking ceremonies of the PTI’s youth wing and district Peshawar office-bearers.
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1stly, did you read the article?

2ndly, Islamic laws if yes made in Washington (propaganda fake law or whatever) then good he objected it....We have accepted enough of American stuff to get it backlash everytime

3rdly, dividing opposition parties...if IK opposed it :tup:

3rdly, IK clearly stated why he opposed what he did ...coz it was not endorsed by an elected parliament not because of what it said...Was he not saving DEMOCRACY?
 
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You have read the contents and made an effort to understand his reasoning or just read the spicy title? Looks like the latter only.

I love spicy things but I have read about the whole debacle in detail. You can always Google and see what our most imminent lawyers, jurists even retired judges have to say about women rights bill. I must say it would take a really thick skin not to oppose Lunatik Khan when blatant abuse of women rights is so obvious and so common in our society - a major source of women languishing in jails on accusation of adultery were made by their husbands when women went to courts for Khula (divorce).
 
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You have read the contents and made an effort to understand his reasoning or just read the spicy title? Looks like the latter only.
I agree...Just read the article....was a little confused what @Sedqal was trying to point at coz what he said was not what the article was stating esp when you look at the reasoning provided in the very article!

blatant abuse of women rights is so obvious and so common in our society - a major source of women languishing in jails on accusation of adultery were made by their husbands when women went to courts for Khula (divorce).
1) The Hudood ordinance already provides them support...Now if the Molvi they go to is retarded they should have gone to the civil court for the Hudood ordinance...

2) Khula is not the business of the Husband....Do you even know how to obtain a Khulla? I know it in details...coz my family member took it and we were involved and in no way can an accusation of adultery come into play without 4 witness viewing the act of intercourse (as per the Shariah) ...And if that is not met than no way can the husband accuse any shit...Now if a Mullah like Fazal Ur Rahman was asked maybe he would have managed to twist some facts...but that is only why such shit should be trialed or better yet just thrown in jail!
 
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I love spicy things but I have read about the whole debacle in detail. You can always Google and see what our most imminent lawyers, jurists even retired judges have to say about women rights bill. I must say it would take a really thick skin not to oppose Lunatik Khan when blatant abuse of women rights is so obvious and so common in our society - a major source of women languishing in jails on accusation of adultery were made by their husbands when women went to courts for Khula (divorce).
In which world you are living my friend? Please go through the Divorce Laws here (Divorce Laws in Pakistan Best Divorce Law Firms, Divorce Attorneys Divorce Lawyers in Lahore, Karachi, Pakistan) to get yourself acquainted how EASY it is for a woman to take Khula. Perhaps easier than saying Khuda Haafiz. My immediate family has gone through this painful realization just a few months ago and the husband could do nothing, I mean NOTHING.

Khula cases on the rise
Published Jul 08, 2008 12:00am

KARACHI There has been a drastic rise in cases of Khula, or dissolution of marriage, reveal statistics gathered by Dawn.

Khula is a religious term for divorce at the instance of a woman. As per the data obtained from the four districts of Karachi (West, East, South and Central; no data was available from Malir district as the records there had been destroyed in an arson attack), as many as 2,085 Khula cases were filed during 2007.

The record showed that around 861 Khula cases were pending on January 1, 2007, while as many as 1,677 cases were pending on January 1, 2008.

Seeking separation, or Khula, by a woman used to be quite a demanding task. Earlier, a woman had to file a civil petition, and then there would be a pre-trial followed by provision of evidence as well as statements by her family and witnesses at the time of the wedding, along with a statement by the woman herself and her husband. This procedure would at times drag on for years. However, according to the new system, a woman may file a case for Khula, and the court is bound to decide within six moths of her filing the case.

Interestingly, lawyer Javed Iqbal Barki was dismissive of the rising trend in Khula cases and claimed that 80 per cent of the cases had been filed by women who married out of love and once the delusion of love faded away, they came face to face with the reality of the situation.

“It's mostly young women who seek Khula. The majority of them have married against the will of their families. It is when the fever of love subsides that they become aware of the practicalities of life, such as a jobless husband or a husband who has been married previously and has children from the first wife,” he said.

Lawyer Riffat Mughal disagreed with Mr Barki's view and claimed that it was women in distress who sought Khula.

“In this society, a large number of men prefer to just give a verbal Talaq (divorce) and it is afterwards that the woman has to go to court and file a case for Khula. Previously, a woman had to file separate cases for Khula, dower amount, child custody and maintenance. However, now, after an amendment in 2002, it can be done in one go,” she explained.

The reasons cited for the drastic increase in such cases may vary. Ms Mughal said that before the amendment to the Muslim Family Law 1961, the procedure used to drag for five to six years whereas now it was decided in favour of the woman within months. “Owing to the fact that a woman is entitled to a Khula, fewer men prefer to appear in court and fewer still wish to fill the pockets of lawyers on such a futile venture,” she added.

Hassle-free Khula

The hassle has been reduced to a point where a woman only has to produce a written statement saying that she does not wish to stay with the man she is married to, along with the requisite documents. After having a free trial, the court decides within two to three months on the matter and grants a Khula,” said Noor Naz Agha of the Pakistan Women Lawyers' Association.

Soon after a woman's statement for Khula is received, the court arranges a meeting of both parties, where efforts for reconciliation are made. However, if these efforts are not successful, the court issues a notice and within 15 days a court trial is held,” she added.

Ms Agha revealed that if a case for Khula was filed, the woman had to give up on the alimony, that had been mentioned in her Nikahnama or marriage contract. Furthermore, she added, no specific reason was required to be cited while filing a Khula case.

The new law also gives a woman Khula if the husband fails to appear in court. Lawyer Aftab Bano Rajput maintained that the majority of women filed for divorce because of domestic violence and others for not getting proper maintenance from their husbands. “Most of the women who file for Khula also file cases for child custody (if they have one) or claim for return of the dowry and maintenance for the Iddat - three months after the divorce,” she said.

Minorities' view

However, in case of a Christian woman seeking separation, she still has to go through the procedure that had been used before 2002. Maryam, a Christian woman, soon after the birth of her son decided she could no longer put up with the irrational demands of her in-laws. “I left my in-laws and came to my parents'. Later, I filed a suit for separation and got it after three years,” she said.

Though in a Christian marriage there is a contract, there is no alimony mentioned in it. Maryam earns her own living and is supported by her parents and a brother.

It was on similar grounds that Fatima sought Khula. “I had no clue how to go about the case. I just knew one thing that I could no longer endure the torment I was going through,” she said.

Her husband had quit earning two years after the marriage and not even the birth of a daughter could bring any change in him. “He was abusive and would smash things in rage and would demand money from my father,” she said. However, five years after the marriage Fatima decided to call it quits. “I was granted Khula within three months,” she said.

Khula cases on the rise - - DAWN.COM
 
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Dont worry. You also deserve to get what i gave you. You are as loud mouth as Ik


You lost your mind. This topic is about molvi fazulul but you potian guys have obsession with nawaz..nawaz phobia lol
better to be loud mouthy then lair , murderer and corrupt .
 
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For God's sake. He has not even mentioned the words you heard.

He has said "Beysharam aadmai, jitney tum bahar sey gandey ho, itney hi andar sey mailey ho", which effectively translates into English as:

"Shameless man, as much dirty you are on the outside, as much filthy you are from the inside".
Sorry, Missed due to his accent. I also got surprised.
 
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So, A Mullah showing his deep concerns about women rights? Oh, moving on! Because, after what they have said and done all along, they must be the last people on the face of the planet to even think about it, let alone start to issue statements regarding it.
Where exactly are Fazlus children living or studying? If not in Pakistan when are they coming back?

In Dar-ul-Harb most probably, living their lives under the secular law and enjoying it with the infidels. Thats how most of the prominent Mullah's life stories go.
 
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In Dar-ul-Harb most probably, living their lives under the secular law and enjoying it with the infidels. Thats how most of the prominent Mullah's life stories go.

There was a story which I cant seem to find that said one or more of his children were in the United States "studying". It also quoted Fazlu agreeing to that fact. Not sure how true that story was and wanted confirmation from reliable source.
 
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There was a story which I cant seem to find that said one or more of his children were in the United States "studying". It also quoted Fazlu agreeing to that fact. Not sure how true that story was and wanted confirmation from reliable source.

Neither am I surprised nor would I personally ask for proof, the same happened to be the case with the late Qazi Hussain Ahmed who had his children getting it on with the kafir breeds, despite him himself leaving no opportunity wasted to chant "Down with America" or issue a statement condemning the Americans.
 
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Like you blocking our soldiers in the other thread, you PTI fans are very immature.
we saw your maturity ... from past 30 years... mulk may dhood ke nehrain bahade hain is maturity nay kay aaj har jaga loog kudhkushyaan kar rahay hain.. and by the way ... don't ******* with me without understanding the context... go and read again .... in Protocol thread... and you've some time... read oscar and other members replies...

and next time be very very double quoted careful while telling me "HAMARAY SOLDIER" ko block kya... I will seriously directly confront you on your this non-sense statement.

@WebbMaster @Horus

Copy - and counter it!
 
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we saw your maturity ... from past 30 years... mulk may dhood ke nehrain bahade hain is maturity nay kay aaj har jaga loog kudhkushyaan kar rahay hain.. and by the way ... don't ******* with me without understanding the context... go and read again .... in Protocol thread... and you've some time... read oscar and other members replies...

You wanna help the ttp kill some of them.
 
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Report in here...webmaster is good guy dealing with such bias tanks
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I don't exactly remember if it was the same guy, but in one thread he gave a negative rating to a guy calling IK "Gullu Khan". Chak Bamu caught him doing that and pointed that he hadn't given negative ratings to people in the same thread calling Nawaz Sharif a "ganja", "noora" etc. When he was caught red handed, his only argument was; "Imran Khan is the only sincere person in Pakistan, who shouldn't be called names by people". Every tom, dick and harry can become a "think tank" here it seems.
 
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I don't exactly remember if it was the same guy, but in one thread he gave a negative rating to a guy calling IK "Gullu Khan". Chak Bamu caught him doing that and pointed that he hadn't given negative ratings to people in the same thread calling Nawaz Sharif a "ganja", "noora" etc. When he was caught red handed, his only argument was; "Imran Khan is the only sincere person in Pakistan, who shouldn't be called names by people". Every tom, dick and harry can become a "think tank" here it seems.
I could guess who is he:wink: well, this PDF fault not their, if you a ptian you got -rating by opposite TT and same goes to PMLN supporters, if you are not both of two above parties you get -rating from both side:lol: Admin knows that how we so HONEST to doing our jobs. If one of Mod or TT proudly write here IM VERY TOUCHY ABOUT IK, what you accept from him a minus or plus rating if you dare to do blasphemy against Hzrat Imran Khan? and same goes on other groups.
 
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