Muhammad Bin Qasim

[StraightShooter]

LOL at Hussaini Brahmins. Man, these Indians like to poke their brown noses in just about everything.

Why do you think this as poking? Both the articles posted were written by Muslims of the subcontinent and one of them is a Pakistani source.

 

[khanmubashir]

That was one of the biggest conspiracies in history of Islam.
All great generals of Islamic army from around the globe, were called back to capital Damascus and assassinated.
Here's another one of the legend, killed by bloody Sulaiman.
http://www.arabnews.com/islam-perspective/news/750016

Corrupt rulers don't like living national hero's r a threat to them or just hurt their ego that people love em more then them

Muhammad bin Qasim was born around 695 AD. He belonged to the Saqqafi tribe; that had originated from Taif in Arabia. He grew up in the care of his mother; he soon became a great asset to his uncle Muhammad Ibn Yusuf, the governor of Yemen. His judgment, potential and skills left many other officers and forced the ruler to appoint him in the state department. He was also a close relative of Hajjaj bin Yousuf, because of the influence of Hajjaj, the young Muhammad bin Qasim was appointed the governor of Persia while in his teens, and he crushed the rebellion in that region. There is also a popular tradition that presents him as the son-in-law of Hajjaj bin Yousuf. He conquered the Sindh and Punjab regions along the Indus River for the Umayyad Caliphate.

There are both long and short term causes for the conquest of india. Arabs had trade with India and Eastern Asia. The trade was carried through sea rout; the rout was unsafe due to the plunder of the Pirates of Sindh. The Arab rebels also get refuge in Sindh. Thus the Umayyad wanted to consolidate their rule and also to secure the trade rout. During Hajjaj’s governorship, the Mids of Debal (Pirates) plundered the gifts of Ceylon’s ruler to Hijjaj and attacked on ships of Arab that were carrying the orphans and widows of Muslim soldiers who died in Sri Lanka. Thus providing the Umayyad Caliphate the legitimate cause, that enabled them to gain a foothold in the Makran, and Sindh regions.

The Umayyad caliphate ordered Muhammad Bin Qasim to attack over Sindh. He led 6,000 Syrian cavalry and at the borders of Sindh he was joined by an advance guard and six thousand camel riders and with five catapults (Manjaniks). Muhammad Bin Qasim first captured Debal, from where the Arab army marched along the Indus. At Rohri he was met by Dahir’s forces. Dahir died in the battle, his forces were defeated and Muhammad bin Qasim took control of Sind. Mohammad Bin Qasim entered Daibul in 712 AD. As a result of his efforts, he succeeded in capturing Daibul. He continued his Victorious Progress in succession, Nirun, fortress (called Sikka), Brahmanabad, Alor, Multan and Gujrat. After the conquest of Multan, he carried his arms to the borders of Kigdom of Kashmir, but his dismissal stopped the further advance. Now Muslims were the masters of whole Sindh and a part of Punjab up to the borders of Kashmir in the north. After the conquest, he adopted a conciliatory policy, asking for acceptance of Muslim rule by the natives in return for non-interference in their religious and cultural practices. He also established peace with a strong taxation system. In return he provided the guaranty of security of life and property for the natives. Hajjaj died in 714. When Walid Bin Abdul Malik died, his younger brother Suleman succeeded as the Caliph. He was a bitter enemy of Hajjaj’s family. He recalled Mohammad Bin Qasim from Sindh, who obeyed the orders as the duty of a general. When he came back, he was put to death on 18th of July, 715AD at the age of twenty.

I don't understand why Indian have to do rundi Rona on every thing now they call a 17 year old general who defeated a far more experienced and mature not to mention with much bigger army like Hindu kings like Asoka used to tie rakhis from the women of people they conquered BTW most Western historians agree he didn't do excessive massacre. As down by several other conquers of that age he did put to death city elders.of debal because it was order of hjaj for their patronage of pirates who looted Muslim ships over all he was a skill full general in teenage and was murdered due to political jealousy by using a woman based allegations such allegations r easily stamped. On someone even today

How about this one?

Have you guys ever wondered why Shias of Kargil strongly support being part of India?

Have you ever wondered why Shias in India strongly support BJP ?

History is the testament to the fact that the Hindus of India have strongly supported prophet Muhammad ((PBUH) and his family in their fight against the Umayyad Caliphate which usurped power and killed both prophet Muhammad's ((PBUH) grandson Husayn ibn Ali and great-grandson Ali ibn Husayn Zayn al-Abidin.

Karbala and how Lahore was involved
Majid SheikhNovember 26, 2012
68

156

A Muharram procession in Lahore, Pakistan.—File Photo


IN our school and college days we all loved to assist friends set up ‘sabeels’ alongside Lahore`s traditional ‘Ashura’ procession, providing cold drinks to the thousands who mourned. Sects and beliefs never mattered then. But then neither did one`s religion.

For well over 1,332 years, the tragedy of Karbala moves everyone who hears about it, be they Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Sikh or any other religion. This is one incident that brings out the need to support those with a moral position.

As children we attended the ‘sham-i-ghareeban’ with our Shia friends, and learnt the lesson of supporting those in the right. Everyone respected the beliefs of others. Yes, there were always a few silly chaps who wanted attention, but they were at best ignored.

The ancient city of Lahore is connected to the tragedy in no uncertain terms.

Historical accounts say seven brave warriors from Lahore died while fighting in the Battle of Karbala. It is said their father Rahab Dutt, an old man who traded with Arabia in those days, had promised the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) to stand by his grandson in his fight to uphold the truth.

That pledge the brave Rajput Mohiyals of the Dutt clan from Lahore upheld.

Today they are known as Hussaini Brahmins, who lived in Lahore till 1947.

Then there is the fact that besides the Hindu Rajputs of Lahore, in the battle also fought John bin Huwai, a freed Christian slave of Abu Dharr al-Ghafari, whose `alleged` descendents, one researcher claims, still live inside the Walled City of Lahore.

I have been on the track of these ancestors for quite some time and have been able to trace one Christian family living inside Mori Gate. They claim to have a connection with a `Sahabi` whose name they cannot recollect. M. A. Karanpikar`s `Islam in Transition`, written over 250 years ago, made this claim, but I do not think it is a claim worth pursuing.

But the most powerful claim of Lahore as the place where the descendents of Hussain ibn All came lies in the Bibi Pak Daman graveyard, where the grave of Ruquiya, sister of Hussain ibn Ali and wife of Muslim ibn Ageel, is said to exist.

Also graves here attributed to the sisters of Muslim ibn Ageel and other family members. Many dispute this claim.

But then no less a person than Ali Hasan of Hajweri, known popularly as Data Sahib, came here every Thursday to offer ‘fateha’ at the grave, informing his followers that this was the grave of Ruquiya. The place where he always stood to offer `fateha` has been marked out, and his book also verifies this claim. Mind you detractors exist, of this have no doubt, but the supporting evidence is quite strong.

Let me begin the story of the Dutts by going through the record of the Shaukat Khanum Hospital and the recorded fact that Indian film star Sunil Dutt, who belonged to Lahore, made a donation to the hospital and recorded the following words: ‘For Lahore, like my elders, I will shed every drop of blood and give any donation asked for, just as my ancestors did when they laid down their lives at Karbala for Hazrat Imam Husain.

Makes you think -but then there is this account which says that the seven sons of Rahab Dutt lost their lives defending the Imam at Karbala. The Martyr’s List at Qum verifies this. History records when the third thrust by Yazid’s forces came, the Dutt brothers refused to let them pass. The seven Punjabi swordsmen stood their ground till they were felled by hundreds of horsemen. In lieu of the loyalty of the Dutt family to that of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) was coined the famous saying: ‘Wah Dutt Sultan, Hindu ka dharm, Musalman ka iman, Adha Hindu adha Musalman.’ Since then, so the belief goes, Muslims were instructed never to try to convert the Dutts to Islam.

A grieving Rahab returned to the land of his ancestors, and after staying in Afghanistan, returned to Lahore. I have tried my very best to locate their ‘mohallah’ inside the Walled City, and my educated guess is that it is Mohallah Maulian inside Lohari Gate. Later they moved to Mochi Gate, and it was there that the famous Dutts lived before 1947 saw them flee from the hate of the people they gave everything for.

The most interesting thing about the Hussaini Brahmins is that they are highly respected among Hindus, and even more amazingly it is said that all direct ancestors of Rahab Dutt are born with a light slash mark on their throat, a sort of symbol of their sacrifice. I was reading a piece by Prof Doonica Dutt of Delhi University who verified this claim and said that all true Dutts belong to Lahore.

I must point out to an amazing version of these events that an Indian historian, Chawala, has come up with. It says that one of the wives of Hazrat Imam Husain, the Persian princess Shahr Banu, was the sister of Chandra Lekha or Mehr Banu, the wife of an Indian king Chandragupta. We know that he ruled over Lahore. When it became clear that Yazid ibn Muawiya was determined to eliminate Hussain ibn Ali, the son of Hussain (named Ali) rushed off a letter to Chandragupta asking for assistance. The Mauriyan king, allegedly, dispatched a large army to Iraq to assist. By the time they arrived, the Tragedy of Karbala had taken place.

In Kufa in Iraq a disciple of Hazrat Imam Husain is said to have arranged for them to stay in a special part of the town, which even today is known by the name of Dair-i-Hindiya or ‘the Indian quarter’ The Hussaini Brahmins believe that in the Kalanki Purana, the last of 18 Puranas, as well as the Atharva Veda, the 4th Veda, refers to Hazrat Imam Husain as the avatar of the Kali Yug, the present age. They believe that the family of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him)is Om Murti, the most respected family before the Almighty.

All these facts bring me back to our days as school children working hard to provide relief to the mourners on Ashura. Reminds me of our neighbour Nawab Raza Ali Qizilbash, who invited us to his ‘haveli’ every year to see the preparations before the event. Raza Bhai is no more, and neither is the tolerance that we all enjoyed so much.

https://www.dawn.com/news/766877


Hussaini Brahmins: The Hindus who fought for Imam Hussain in war of Karbala

The term 'Hussaini Brahmins' comes as a surprise for the majority of readers. It is perceived as if two contradicting words are aligned together. However, its definition is a source of inspiration for

Mohammed Uzair Shaikh | Published: October 24, 2015 5:41 PM ISTEmail

The term ‘Hussaini Brahmins’ comes as a surprise for the majority of readers. It is perceived as if two contradicting words are aligned together. However, its definition is a source of inspiration for those who believe in plurality, unity and diversity. At a time when communal animosity is escalating between Hindus and Muslims, one should reminisce the valour shown by Brahmins residing in North-West frontier (now Pakistan) by joining the martyrdom of the revered Islamic figure.

Who are Hussaini Brahmins?

Rahab Singh Dutt, an upper-caste Hindu belonging to Mohyal community traveled all the way to Iran, along with his sons to join Imam Hussain, the grandson of Prophet Muhammad in the war of Karbala. The famous battle was fought against caliph Yazeed, who had turned corrupt and spread a cruel rule in the region of al-sham (the area which is now demarcated as Iraq, Iran and Syria). Since the grandson of prophet took objection to his unjust methods, Yazeed launched a war against him.

Imam Hussain, who was left with a few number of supporters in the region of Central Arab (now Medina, Oman and Yemen) wrote a number of letters to neighbouring tribes and regions which had maintained good relations with Prophet Muhammad. One such letter reached the Brahmins of North-West frontier.

Despite knowing the fact that he was participating a one-sided battle and destined to lose, Datt joined the forces of Hussain. According to Sunita Jhingran, who claims to be a Mohyal descendant of Rahab Singh Dutt, “Our ancestors joined the forces because Imam Hussain was fighting against the oppression of people under Yazeed’s rule. He was fighting for true Islam, which was propagated by the beloved prophet. Rahab Singh Dutt was a warrior who joined the forces of the Imam since he was standing for the righteous.”

The war of Karbala began in 680 AD. Rahab Singh Dutt joined the losing battalion of Hussain. Dutt did not die in the battle, but his seven sons who accompanied him lost their lives shortly after the beheading of Imam Hussain. After the battle, he met Hussain’s sister, Zainab and narrated his story.


According to Vipin Mohan Jhingran, who claims to be a Hussaini Brahmin, Zainab was moved to tears after confronting Dutt. “The family of Prophet Muhammad told our ancestor Rahab Singh Dutt that from now you are not just Brahmins, but ‘Hussaini’ Brahmins,” said Jhingran.

Where are the Hussaini Brahmins now?

The Hussaini Brahmins thrived in the regions of Pakistan in the pre-independence era. The community members are identified with surnames such as Mohan, Bali, Chibber, Dutt, Bakshi, Lav, Bimwal and Jhingran. After the partition, they migrated to India and settled in various parts of the nation.

However, despite their contributions in the redefining era of Islamic history, a number of Muslims in India and Pakistan fail to acknowledge them. They refrain from believing the narrative of the Mohyal community alleging that no Islamic author has claimed the same. However, Shia cleric based in Lahore, Maulana Hasan Zafar Naqvi, validates the fact that Mohyals had participated in the war of Karbala since they had good relations with Caliph Ali, the father of Imam Hussain.

Despite sharing a rich and varied history, the Hussaini Brahmins have somehow turned into a lost community and have remotely made their socio-religious presence felt. Amid situations where a Tajya procession in Muharram can cause a communal riot, both the communities should recall the martyrdom of Imam Hussain and sacrifice made up by Mohyals to safeguard his honour.


http://www.india.com/news/india/hus...ht-for-imam-hussain-in-war-of-karbala-655259/

Did those brahmin also brought hanuman with em Karbala happened decades before conquest of sindh a deep inside territory of Arab empire present day Syria Iraq no way an armed contingent of Hindu could reach that deep inside empire and for what they were Hindu why would they revere a Muslim leader

How about this one?

Have you guys ever wondered why Shias of Kargil strongly support being part of India?

Have you ever wondered why Shias in India strongly support BJP ?

History is the testament to the fact that the Hindus of India have strongly supported prophet Muhammad ((PBUH) and his family in their fight against the Umayyad Caliphate which usurped power and killed both prophet Muhammad's ((PBUH) grandson Husayn ibn Ali and great-grandson Ali ibn Husayn Zayn al-Abidin.

Karbala and how Lahore was involved
Majid SheikhNovember 26, 2012
68

156

A Muharram procession in Lahore, Pakistan.—File Photo


IN our school and college days we all loved to assist friends set up ‘sabeels’ alongside Lahore`s traditional ‘Ashura’ procession, providing cold drinks to the thousands who mourned. Sects and beliefs never mattered then. But then neither did one`s religion.

For well over 1,332 years, the tragedy of Karbala moves everyone who hears about it, be they Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Sikh or any other religion. This is one incident that brings out the need to support those with a moral position.

As children we attended the ‘sham-i-ghareeban’ with our Shia friends, and learnt the lesson of supporting those in the right. Everyone respected the beliefs of others. Yes, there were always a few silly chaps who wanted attention, but they were at best ignored.

The ancient city of Lahore is connected to the tragedy in no uncertain terms.

Historical accounts say seven brave warriors from Lahore died while fighting in the Battle of Karbala. It is said their father Rahab Dutt, an old man who traded with Arabia in those days, had promised the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) to stand by his grandson in his fight to uphold the truth.

That pledge the brave Rajput Mohiyals of the Dutt clan from Lahore upheld.

Today they are known as Hussaini Brahmins, who lived in Lahore till 1947.

Then there is the fact that besides the Hindu Rajputs of Lahore, in the battle also fought John bin Huwai, a freed Christian slave of Abu Dharr al-Ghafari, whose `alleged` descendents, one researcher claims, still live inside the Walled City of Lahore.

I have been on the track of these ancestors for quite some time and have been able to trace one Christian family living inside Mori Gate. They claim to have a connection with a `Sahabi` whose name they cannot recollect. M. A. Karanpikar`s `Islam in Transition`, written over 250 years ago, made this claim, but I do not think it is a claim worth pursuing.

But the most powerful claim of Lahore as the place where the descendents of Hussain ibn All came lies in the Bibi Pak Daman graveyard, where the grave of Ruquiya, sister of Hussain ibn Ali and wife of Muslim ibn Ageel, is said to exist.

Also graves here attributed to the sisters of Muslim ibn Ageel and other family members. Many dispute this claim.

But then no less a person than Ali Hasan of Hajweri, known popularly as Data Sahib, came here every Thursday to offer ‘fateha’ at the grave, informing his followers that this was the grave of Ruquiya. The place where he always stood to offer `fateha` has been marked out, and his book also verifies this claim. Mind you detractors exist, of this have no doubt, but the supporting evidence is quite strong.

Let me begin the story of the Dutts by going through the record of the Shaukat Khanum Hospital and the recorded fact that Indian film star Sunil Dutt, who belonged to Lahore, made a donation to the hospital and recorded the following words: ‘For Lahore, like my elders, I will shed every drop of blood and give any donation asked for, just as my ancestors did when they laid down their lives at Karbala for Hazrat Imam Husain.

Makes you think -but then there is this account which says that the seven sons of Rahab Dutt lost their lives defending the Imam at Karbala. The Martyr’s List at Qum verifies this. History records when the third thrust by Yazid’s forces came, the Dutt brothers refused to let them pass. The seven Punjabi swordsmen stood their ground till they were felled by hundreds of horsemen. In lieu of the loyalty of the Dutt family to that of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) was coined the famous saying: ‘Wah Dutt Sultan, Hindu ka dharm, Musalman ka iman, Adha Hindu adha Musalman.’ Since then, so the belief goes, Muslims were instructed never to try to convert the Dutts to Islam.

A grieving Rahab returned to the land of his ancestors, and after staying in Afghanistan, returned to Lahore. I have tried my very best to locate their ‘mohallah’ inside the Walled City, and my educated guess is that it is Mohallah Maulian inside Lohari Gate. Later they moved to Mochi Gate, and it was there that the famous Dutts lived before 1947 saw them flee from the hate of the people they gave everything for.

The most interesting thing about the Hussaini Brahmins is that they are highly respected among Hindus, and even more amazingly it is said that all direct ancestors of Rahab Dutt are born with a light slash mark on their throat, a sort of symbol of their sacrifice. I was reading a piece by Prof Doonica Dutt of Delhi University who verified this claim and said that all true Dutts belong to Lahore.

I must point out to an amazing version of these events that an Indian historian, Chawala, has come up with. It says that one of the wives of Hazrat Imam Husain, the Persian princess Shahr Banu, was the sister of Chandra Lekha or Mehr Banu, the wife of an Indian king Chandragupta. We know that he ruled over Lahore. When it became clear that Yazid ibn Muawiya was determined to eliminate Hussain ibn Ali, the son of Hussain (named Ali) rushed off a letter to Chandragupta asking for assistance. The Mauriyan king, allegedly, dispatched a large army to Iraq to assist. By the time they arrived, the Tragedy of Karbala had taken place.

In Kufa in Iraq a disciple of Hazrat Imam Husain is said to have arranged for them to stay in a special part of the town, which even today is known by the name of Dair-i-Hindiya or ‘the Indian quarter’ The Hussaini Brahmins believe that in the Kalanki Purana, the last of 18 Puranas, as well as the Atharva Veda, the 4th Veda, refers to Hazrat Imam Husain as the avatar of the Kali Yug, the present age. They believe that the family of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him)is Om Murti, the most respected family before the Almighty.

All these facts bring me back to our days as school children working hard to provide relief to the mourners on Ashura. Reminds me of our neighbour Nawab Raza Ali Qizilbash, who invited us to his ‘haveli’ every year to see the preparations before the event. Raza Bhai is no more, and neither is the tolerance that we all enjoyed so much.

https://www.dawn.com/news/766877


Hussaini Brahmins: The Hindus who fought for Imam Hussain in war of Karbala

The term 'Hussaini Brahmins' comes as a surprise for the majority of readers. It is perceived as if two contradicting words are aligned together. However, its definition is a source of inspiration for

Mohammed Uzair Shaikh | Published: October 24, 2015 5:41 PM ISTEmail

The term ‘Hussaini Brahmins’ comes as a surprise for the majority of readers. It is perceived as if two contradicting words are aligned together. However, its definition is a source of inspiration for those who believe in plurality, unity and diversity. At a time when communal animosity is escalating between Hindus and Muslims, one should reminisce the valour shown by Brahmins residing in North-West frontier (now Pakistan) by joining the martyrdom of the revered Islamic figure.

Who are Hussaini Brahmins?

Rahab Singh Dutt, an upper-caste Hindu belonging to Mohyal community traveled all the way to Iran, along with his sons to join Imam Hussain, the grandson of Prophet Muhammad in the war of Karbala. The famous battle was fought against caliph Yazeed, who had turned corrupt and spread a cruel rule in the region of al-sham (the area which is now demarcated as Iraq, Iran and Syria). Since the grandson of prophet took objection to his unjust methods, Yazeed launched a war against him.

Imam Hussain, who was left with a few number of supporters in the region of Central Arab (now Medina, Oman and Yemen) wrote a number of letters to neighbouring tribes and regions which had maintained good relations with Prophet Muhammad. One such letter reached the Brahmins of North-West frontier.

Despite knowing the fact that he was participating a one-sided battle and destined to lose, Datt joined the forces of Hussain. According to Sunita Jhingran, who claims to be a Mohyal descendant of Rahab Singh Dutt, “Our ancestors joined the forces because Imam Hussain was fighting against the oppression of people under Yazeed’s rule. He was fighting for true Islam, which was propagated by the beloved prophet. Rahab Singh Dutt was a warrior who joined the forces of the Imam since he was standing for the righteous.”

The war of Karbala began in 680 AD. Rahab Singh Dutt joined the losing battalion of Hussain. Dutt did not die in the battle, but his seven sons who accompanied him lost their lives shortly after the beheading of Imam Hussain. After the battle, he met Hussain’s sister, Zainab and narrated his story.


According to Vipin Mohan Jhingran, who claims to be a Hussaini Brahmin, Zainab was moved to tears after confronting Dutt. “The family of Prophet Muhammad told our ancestor Rahab Singh Dutt that from now you are not just Brahmins, but ‘Hussaini’ Brahmins,” said Jhingran.

Where are the Hussaini Brahmins now?

The Hussaini Brahmins thrived in the regions of Pakistan in the pre-independence era. The community members are identified with surnames such as Mohan, Bali, Chibber, Dutt, Bakshi, Lav, Bimwal and Jhingran. After the partition, they migrated to India and settled in various parts of the nation.

However, despite their contributions in the redefining era of Islamic history, a number of Muslims in India and Pakistan fail to acknowledge them. They refrain from believing the narrative of the Mohyal community alleging that no Islamic author has claimed the same. However, Shia cleric based in Lahore, Maulana Hasan Zafar Naqvi, validates the fact that Mohyals had participated in the war of Karbala since they had good relations with Caliph Ali, the father of Imam Hussain.

Despite sharing a rich and varied history, the Hussaini Brahmins have somehow turned into a lost community and have remotely made their socio-religious presence felt. Amid situations where a Tajya procession in Muharram can cause a communal riot, both the communities should recall the martyrdom of Imam Hussain and sacrifice made up by Mohyals to safeguard his honour.


http://www.india.com/news/india/hus...ht-for-imam-hussain-in-war-of-karbala-655259/

And daughter of Husain me t with a non mehrum(non family man) man Ro thanks him ?? even that a Hindu while it'd forbid in Islam to women to interact with stranger and that too of family of prophet Muhammad pbuh who makes these nonsense

 

[El Sidd]

Strange thread this.

Quite irrelevant today this discussion.

It doesn't matter.


Islam is here. Deal with it.

 

[StraightShooter]

Did those brahmin also brought hanuman with em Karbala happened decades before conquest of sindh a deep inside territory of Arab empire present day Syria Iraq no way an armed contingent of Hindu could reach that deep inside empire and for what they were Hindu why would they revere a Muslim leader

You didn't get the point.

First we need to understand that pre-Islamic Arabs worshiped various gods. prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) family/tribe was associated with the worship of Shiva.

They had association with the Shaivite brahmin kingdoms of Sindh & Kashmir.

When the issue of succession and battle for legacy of Islam came into picture, Shaivite brahmin kingdoms of Sindh & Kashmir assured of their support to prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and his family.

Hence the Hussaini Brahmins fought along side the family of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and against the Umayyad Caliphate who were accused of indulging in fitna at the Battle of Karbala which took place 680 AD.

This was the reason why Umayyad Caliphate came after the brahmin kingdom of Sindh in 712 AD on the pretext of piracy.

 

[El Sidd]

You didn't get the point.

First we need to understand that pre-Islamic Arabs worshiped various gods. prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) family/tribe was associated with the worship of Shiva.

They had association with the Shaivite brahmin kingdoms of Sindh & Kashmir.

When the issue of succession and battle for legacy of Islam came into picture, Shaivite brahmin kingdoms of Sindh & Kashmir assured of their support to prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and his family.

Hence the Hussaini Brahmins fought along side the family of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and against the Umayyad Caliphate who were accused of indulging in fitna at the Battle of Karbala which took place 680 AD.

This was the reason why Umayyad Caliphate came after the brahmin kingdom of Sindh in 712 AD on the pretext of piracy.

Sindh was separated from Bombay presidency.

Kashmir will also separate from Delhi presidency.

Peace

 

[Guynextdoor2]

well it paks turn to sort out pirates from oil regions who fund terror in gawador areas and other regions.
Its time to send our army to secure the trade route and protection of course taxation.

you will get 'taxes'...maybe you should cut down on the pot.

Some shithead will mention dahir's daughters for sure to malign him.

he was a plunderer and nothing more.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

shut da fuk up indian sh it.

truth hurts.....real real bad....

 

[Azadkashmir]

truth hurts.....real real bad....

what truth? you just mentioned cut down on the pot, i dont smoke.
indians have nothing better to say but get involved in affairs which have nothing to do with indian.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

what truth? you just mentioned cut down on the pot, i dont smoke.
indians have nothing better to say but get involved in affairs which have nothing to do with indian.

come we're waiting to give you 'taxes' like how we're giving hoors to terrorists on a day to day basis.

 

[Azadkashmir]

come we're waiting to give you 'taxes' like how we're giving hoors to terrorists on a day to day basis.

wtf **** are you on bout .are you pakistani NOO you are indian go make some toilets for your people after shi tting thier pants from china.

 

[Hamza913]

Why did the Islamic empires insist in taking female sex slaves?
Even the caliph was legally entitled to this.
Sickening for us non Muslims. A grave tragedy. Regret it to this day.

If the females consented, you could bang them.

Consider it a reward for striving so hard in combat.

Oh and when these guys are spending so much time away from their wives... they might get a little... you know.

So the main concern is that you could not have embraced Islam but for Umayyad Caliphate and Muhammad bin Qasim?




Do you know Umayyad Caliphate was accused of indulging in fitna? Do you believe that you need to protect the house of Saud to protect Islam?



There are Indians who claim British rule was a blessing!

Do you think Iraq had WMDs?



Umayyad Caliphate back stabbed prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and his family. There are no two ways to look at that. Of course we are discussing Muhammad bin Qasim who was a Umayyad general. So it is important to understand the context.

The Brahmin rulers of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Kashmir were supporting Muhammad (PBUH) and his family. Hence Umayyad caliphs came after them. This is the same reason why Hussaini Brahmins fought for the Imam Hussain in war of Karbala.

The Ummayads weren't perfect, I'm aware of this. But they were still the ruling Muslim power and not all of them were responsible for the actions of a few. This is not the same as me defending the house of saud, the house of saud isn't the leading Muslim power.

For some Hindustanis, British rule may have very well been a blessing. Again, it shows how divided people in this region are. We're not as unified as you guys seem to think.

No, I don't think Iraq had nukes if that's what you mean, but if you want to get technical, they had chemical weapons which count as WMD'S.

Muhammad Bin Qasim wasn't (as far as history says) as crooked as some of the other Ummayads.

False, Ummayads attacked because Hindustan was a wealthy place, to spread Islam, and because pirates were attacking Muslims passing on ships whilst the kings in Hindustan did nothing.

I'm not going to get into the topic of Karbala, it's a sensitive one.

shut da fuk up indian sh it.

Please don't swear.

That goes for everyone.

 

[Mugwop]

you will get 'taxes'...maybe you should cut down on

you will get 'taxes'...maybe you should cut down on the pot.



he was a plunderer and nothing more.

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My man tmur the lame is what fits the definition of a plunderer.
Qasim was loved by some buddhists and even hindus in sindh.

 

[khanmubashir]

You didn't get the point.

First we need to understand that pre-Islamic Arabs worshiped various gods. prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) family/tribe was associated with the worship of Shiva.

They had association with the Shaivite brahmin kingdoms of Sindh & Kashmir.

When the issue of succession and battle for legacy of Islam came into picture, Shaivite brahmin kingdoms of Sindh & Kashmir assured of their support to prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and his family.

Hence the Hussaini Brahmins fought along side the family of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and against the Umayyad Caliphate who were accused of indulging in fitna at the Battle of Karbala which took place 680 AD.

This was the reason why Umayyad Caliphate came after the brahmin kingdom of Sindh in 712 AD on the pretext of piracy.

All this Hindu Mumbo-Jumbo of Hinduism being base of Abrahamic religion is nonsense and no historic proof animal headed gods were worshipped in several cultures more ancient hren Hinduism like Egypt and mesopotemia now hindutva fanatics belive if any thing black color or has animal related.had to Hinduism related

All this Hindu Mumbo-Jumbo of Hinduism being base of Abrahamic religion is nonsense and no historic proof animal headed gods were worshipped in several cultures more ancient hren Hinduism like Egypt and mesopotemia now hindutva fanatics belive if any thing black color or has animal related.had to Hinduism related

And how the hell those Hindu forces reach desert of Iraq did hanuman and gnash fly em there
Next time u would also post some stupid article claiming this

 

[Alternative]

Why did the Islamic empires insist in taking female sex slaves?
Even the caliph was legally entitled to this.
Sickening for us non Muslims. A grave tragedy. Regret it to this day.

It seems you are the sensitive one:
I gather that your would not be interested in slavery practices prevalent in ancient Chinese, or Greek, of Roman, Africa, near east, almost all over the world.
Would to you, Non-Muslims, Slavery in Vedic Culture, would be as sickening;

Rig Veda 8:XIX:36 A gift of fifty female slaves hath Trasadasyu given me, Purukutsa's son,Most liberal, kind, lord of the brave.
Rig veda 6:27:8 Two wagon-teams, with damsels, twenty oxen, O Agni, Abhydvartin Cayamdna,The liberal Sovran, giveth me.This guerdon of Prthu's seed is hard to win from others.”

Laws of Manu 3:33. The forcible abduction of a maiden from her home, while she cries out and weeps, after (her kinsmen) have been slain or wounded and (their houses) broken open, is called the Rakshasa rite.
Manu 9:48. As with cows, mares, female camels, slave-girls, buffalo-cows, shegoats, and ewes, it is not the begetter (or his owner) who obtains the offspring, even thus (it is) with the wives of others.

Mahabharata 1:CCXXII And he of eyes like lotus-petals also gave unto them a thousand damsels well-skilled in assisting at bathing and at drinking, young in years and virgins all before their first-season, well-attired and of excellent complexion, each wearing a hundred pieces of gold around her neck, of skins perfectly polished, decked with every ornament, and well-skilled in every kind of personal service.

Etc. etc. etc.

And very well know case of Daropadi, royal princess which was enslaved on the throw of dice: She was bet by one of her husband. She was ordered to be disrobed in court.

Has you sickness increased?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

It seems you are the sensitive one:
I gather that your would not be interested in slavery practices prevalent in ancient Chinese, or Greek, of Roman, Africa, near east, almost all over the world.
Would to you, Non-Muslims, Slavery in Vedic Culture, would be as sickening;

Rig Veda 8:XIX:36 A gift of fifty female slaves hath Trasadasyu given me, Purukutsa's son,Most liberal, kind, lord of the brave.
Rig veda 6:27:8 Two wagon-teams, with damsels, twenty oxen, O Agni, Abhydvartin Cayamdna,The liberal Sovran, giveth me.This guerdon of Prthu's seed is hard to win from others.”

Laws of Manu 3:33. The forcible abduction of a maiden from her home, while she cries out and weeps, after (her kinsmen) have been slain or wounded and (their houses) broken open, is called the Rakshasa rite.
Manu 9:48. As with cows, mares, female camels, slave-girls, buffalo-cows, shegoats, and ewes, it is not the begetter (or his owner) who obtains the offspring, even thus (it is) with the wives of others.

Mahabharata 1:CCXXII And he of eyes like lotus-petals also gave unto them a thousand damsels well-skilled in assisting at bathing and at drinking, young in years and virgins all before their first-season, well-attired and of excellent complexion, each wearing a hundred pieces of gold around her neck, of skins perfectly polished, decked with every ornament, and well-skilled in every kind of personal service.

Etc. etc. etc.

And very well know case of Daropadi, royal princess which was enslaved on the throw of dice: She was bet by one of her husband. She was ordered to be disrobed in court.

Has you sickness increased?

Yes. Slavery is sickening.
Now put your foot forward. Condemn slavery in Islam. I dare you.

Come on. Evolve.

Etc. etc. etc.

Perhaps you have quoted it from here.
http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_1751_1800/women in hinduismhtml.htm

If you want to genuinely know the real meaning of the verses, let me know. Else bookmark the link and show how bad Hinduism is.