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Mr Jaitley’s best decision

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By Ajai Shukla
Business Standard, 28th Oct 14
On Saturday, defence minister Arun Jaitley took his best procurement decision so far, relating to building six state-of-the-art submarines for the navy under Project 75I. He ruled that a ministry committee would identify Indian shipyards that had the capability and capacity to build submarines, and the chosen ones would bid, in partnership with a foreign vendor, on a winner-take-all basis. Over the last decade, three committees have been set up for precisely this purpose, but the United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government’s antipathy for tough choices stymied any decision. Now, by giving the committee just six-eight weeks to submit its findings, Mr Jaitley gives us hope that he might be more energetic than his predecessor in filling a yawning gap in our maritime power.

That weakness is the dire shortfall of state-of-the-art submarines. Our powerful surface fleet of some 130 vessels grows stronger every year as Indian shipyards build bristling, multi-role destroyers, frigates and corvettes --- albeit slowly. The Russian-built aircraft carrier, INS Vikramaditya, commissioned last November, flies the MiG-29K, one of the most capable carrier-borne fighters outside the US Navy. In 2018 Cochin Shipyard will hand over INS Vikrant; and then start building a larger, even more capable, indigenous carrier. These three carriers and their battleship escorts will project power far out at sea. Thanks to India’s peninsular geography and to forward air bases in the Andaman & Nicobar Islands, the Indian Air Force (IAF) can support a fleet a long distance away. In short, the surface navy is well poised to exercise “sea control” over chosen parts of the northern Indian Ocean.

Yet we lack “sea denial” capability, or the ability to deny enemy warships, submarines and merchantmen the use of waters that we do not control. Submarines are sea denial instruments, lurking underwater to detect and destroy enemy vessels that happen along. In a war with China, for example, the surface fleet --- operating as aircraft carrier battle groups --- might blockade Chinese oil supplies and trade; while submarines patrol the Indonesian archipelago, denying Chinese warships entry into the Indian Ocean. Other submarines might lurk outside Pakistani harbours, bottling up warships inside.

To build this crucial capability, the government signed off in 1999 on a plan to build 24 conventional submarines over the next 30 years. Although half that period elapsed this year, not a single submarine has joined the fleet. Six Scorpene submarines, built in Mumbai by Mazagon Dock Ltd (MDL), will start being commissioned only in 2016. Even so, they will be without air independent propulsion (AIP) and land attack missiles until those capabilities are retrofitted. Meanwhile, the navy makes do with nine ageing, Russian, Kilo-class; and four German HDW submarines.

The UPA’s procrastination with Project 75I did not stem from a profusion of choices. There is agreement that just two Indian shipyards can build modern submarines: the public sector MDL, because of the experience of building the Scorpene; and private sector engineering giant, Larsen & Toubro (L&T), which has worked on India’s nuclear ballistic missile submarine (SSBN) programme for two decades. With MDL busy with the Scorpenes, the navy had been urging the ministry to let L&T bid for Project 75I, in partnership with a foreign vendor that met the technical and financial requirements. Yet the ministry’s department of defence production (the DDP directly oversees MDL, a major conflict of interest) assiduously undermined L&T’s chances. The DDP illogically insisted that L&T’s Hazira shipyard, which had built large sections of the bigger and far more technologically challenging SSBN, INS Arihant, was inadequate for building a smaller conventional submarine. Until Mr Jaitley intervened, Project 75I was going to be built as follows: two submarines abroad, and four by MDL.

Meanwhile, L&T has built an Rs 4,500 crore shipyard-cum-port at Katupalli, near Ennore, Tamil Nadu, with sufficient draft and capacity to build any size of submarine. It has also established a submarine design centre in Chennai and a virtual reality centre in Mumbai. For good measure, it created a Rs 500 crore fabrication unit at Talegaon, near Pune; and a Rs 350 crore unit at Coimbatore for engineering missile parts. Locating Katupalli shipyard on the east coast was a smart move by L&T, since that distributes the risk of disruption to production.

With the defence ministry looking to identify an Indian shipyard, it must also think hard about the foreign technology partner. Traditionally, the choice has been between “eastern bloc” and “western bloc” weaponry, i.e. Russian or European. Today, however, other potential choices present themselves --- notably the Japanese Soryu-class submarines that many experts consider the world’s finest conventional submarine. There remain questions about its high cost; and Tokyo’s willingness to transfer Soryu-class production and technology to India. Even so, New Delhi must consider the Soryu’s technological edge, the growing strategic embrace with Tokyo, and the likelihood that prices could be lowered if Japan’s own production (five planned) were boosted by simultaneous orders from India (six or more) and Australia’s planned purchase of up to twelve.

Finally, if Mr Jaitley does take the strategic decision to establish one private sector submarine line on the east coast (L&T), in addition to a public sector line on the west coast (MDL), it must keep the Scorpene submarine line rolling even after MDL delivers the sixth and final vessel in 2019-20. More Scorpenes are only to be welcomed; and New Delhi could negotiate tough with DCNS, insisting on enhanced technology transfer and a greater share of production as a precondition for ordering 4-6 more.

Finally, in developing two submarines lines, the defence ministry must keep the future in mind. The 30-year submarine plan stipulates that the manufacture of 12 submarines (Project 75 and 75I) must lead on to indigenous production, with 12 vessels to follow that have been designed and built in India.
 
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until he clears the Rafale. ..., he is just lazy old man to me!!
 
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until he clears the Rafale. ..., he is just lazy old man to me!!
he doing the best he can do its our govt PSU HAL which raise concern about its Delivery Timeframes
 
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he doing the best he can do its our govt PSU HAL which raise concern about its Delivery Timeframes
Hal is one lazy company!! Why noy lets the private companies do the job... I mean for rafale they have to build the Infra and production line from the scratch anyway...so why not do that In a private company!
 
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Blasphemy. :angry:

@sancho please come fast and inform us how this decisions is nothing new. UPA is really the one who has done it. Modi govt. is doing it all for narrow political and personal gain. All this will cause HUGE DELAY in the acquisition.
 
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DCNS outlines an AIP design based on the nuclear powered Barracuda
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DCNS is introducing the SMX Ocean – a new submarine concept based on the hull of the nuclear powered ‘Barracuda’ – the next generation SSN of the French Navy. The SMX Ocean will be fitted with a conventional propulsion system (SSK) with AIP technology.

Developing this concept DCNS engineers focused on endurance and high sustained speed. The 4,700 tons SSK was designed for an endurance of 14,000 nautical miles (3 months autonomy) and a continuous transit speed of 14 knots for 1 week using the Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system fitted with two fuel cells.

The original nuclear propulsion system of the Barracuda design was also replaced with six diesel engines and three sets of Li Ion batteries.

Two thruster pods are deployable at the bottom of the hull to allow the submarine will enable the submarine to manoeuvre even while the main screw is not in action. The X rudder design is the same as on the Barracuda, also allowing increased manoeuvrability.

The SMX OCEAN SSK is fitted with one large modular Vertical Launch System tube that may vertically launch up to six MdCN cruise missiles. The submarine may also deploy F21 heavy torpedoes, SM39 Block 2 anti-ship missiles and a submarine launched version of the Mica missile for submarine self protection against aerial attack (A3SM Underwater Vehicle Version).

Now now if type 216 HDW , diesel Barracuda , soryu enters the competition,

Am I dreaming or something...:sleep:
 
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All this will cause HUGE DELAY in the acquisition.

Did you even read the article (even if the source is known for his limited reliability)?

Now, by giving the committee just six-eight weeks to submit its findings

Until Mr Jaitley intervened, Project 75I was going to be built as follows: two submarines abroad, and four by MDL.

It is even confirming the coming delays!

- 6 to 8 weeks delay (end of this early next year!!!) alone to identify suitable shipyards, although we already know that MDL has gained the required know how!
- next step will be team ups of Indian and foreign shipyards, in the next year!
- joint proposals of bids - next year
- evaluation of the bids and evaluations - next year possibly later
- shortlisting of L1 and L2 end of 2015 or early 2016
- final selection 2016 if everything goes smoothly

And that although they could had selected a winner NOW and although the article confirms, that the current P75I deal aimed on the fast delivery of 2 subs by the winning vendor to speed up induction of SSKs into the navy, therefor to speed up modernisations!
 
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Blasphemy. :angry:

@sancho please come fast and inform us how this decisions is nothing new. UPA is really the one who has done it. Modi govt. is doing it all for narrow political and personal gain. All this will cause HUGE DELAY in the acquisition.

Hehehe.. Sancho is getting famous...

OT : Ajai Shukla has proved himself not fit to be taken seriously. The troika of Shukla,Pubby and Sengupta should be avoided as they have vested interests. The report itself makes sense. However I am of opinion that SSN/SSGN should get priority above developing next gen. SSK .
 
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It is even confirming the coming delays!

- 6 to 8 weeks delay (end of this early next year!!!) alone to identify suitable shipyards, although we already know that MDL has gained the required know how!
- next step will be team ups of Indian and foreign shipyards, in the next year!
- joint proposals of bids - next year
- evaluation of the bids and evaluations - next year possibly later
- shortlisting of L1 and L2 end of 2015 or early 2016
- final selection 2016 if everything goes smoothly
So that means the first sub rolls out not before 2023. The remainder by 2030! Great. So the navy sucks its thumbs till then? :undecided:

The goddamn world could come to an end much before that!!
 
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So that means the first sub rolls out not before 2023. The remainder by 2030! Great. So the navy sucks its thumbs till then? :undecided:

The goddamn world could come to an end much before that!!
Oh my gosh dude...!!! 2030!!!
 
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So that means the first sub rolls out not before 2023. The remainder by 2030! Great. So the navy sucks its thumbs till then? :undecided:

Depends on which sub will be selected, if additional Scorpenes will be selected just build by a different source, the induction into IN can go fast. The problem however remains, this srapping / re-tendering, instead of selecting a winner right now, will cause further delays and we will see how much in the coming years. One simply can't justify delays of the whole tender and therefor the modernisation of the navy, with improvements in speeding up bureaucracy (which are visible and which I don't even deny). It would had been much better, if they had improved bureaucracy and selected an LUH or additional 6 subs right away, as just as the 3 chiefs urged the PM to.
 
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Depends on which sub will be selected, if additional Scorpenes will be selected just build by a different source, the induction into IN can go fast. The problem however remains, this srapping / re-tendering, instead of selecting a winner right now, will cause further delays and we will see how much in the coming years. One simply can't justify delays of the whole tender and therefor the modernisation of the navy, with improvements in speeding up bureaucracy (which are visible and which I don't even deny). It would had been much better, if they had improved bureaucracy and selected an LUH or additional 6 subs right away, as just as the 3 chiefs urged the PM to.

Completely agree sir. These late acquisitions will hamper INs capabilities for a while. But better late then never I guess.
 
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