MQM received funding from Govt of India!! - BBC

[Pakistani E]

one has to realize the BBC has some standards, not like pak media. they know if they BS , they will be taken to court and made liable for damages especially when accusing a foreign govt like India.

BBC didn't accuse anyone, read the article. They are saying based on Pakistani officials and media (laughable). All of you are beating around the bush.

 

[syedali73]

one has to realize the BBC has some standards, not like pak media. they know if they BS , they will be taken to court and made liable for damages especially when accusing a foreign govt like India.

Well, it was BBC that had broken the news of fall of Lahore in 1965, a news that turned out to be wrong and BBC lost her credibility in Pakistan for years to come.

 

[waleed3601]

Wow you people are dumber than a sack of potatoes. That article quotes a Pakistani official, and you jump on it because you think it makes your argument more credible if BBC says it. No BBC is not saying that, its the quoted Pakistani official. Now grow up.

you think bbc reports have the same level of authenticity as random urdu papers in Pakistan? this article was screened by british and bbc officials for a week before it was allowed to be uploaded. and also, the quotation given is of a Pakistani "official" not "random citizen". there's a difference between the two.

 

[Pakistani E]

british and bbc officials for a week

Really? How do you know this? An inside source again? Which British officials btw? Are you saying the British establishment screens what the BBC publishes? BBC isn't PTV.

Pakistani "official" not "random citizen".

The same Pakistani officials who are engaged in an operation to discredit MQM since 1992? Yeah they are not exactly unbiased are they?

Also change the title of this thread, it should say "MQM received funding from Govt of India!!! according to Pakistani officials quoted in BBC article".

 

[Spectre]

MQM must clear this up by taking bbc to court ...

Its close to impossible to win a libel case against BBC or infact any foreign media if you don't belong to their country.

Our PM Morarji Desai was accused by Seymor Hersh for being a CIA mole in Washington Post as my memory serves. He filed a libel suit in which Henry Kissinger himself who was secretary of state then in USA testified that Desai was not CIA mole but US court rejected the case of Desai.

Courts of UK and USA are extremely unlikely to support foreign lawsuits. We in India have seen this again and again. Even in Bhopal Gas tragedy when thousands died to negligence of Union Carbide, US courts did not entertain our case.

Here the Pakistan Govt itself is against MqM so the chances are nil for MqM

 

[Nitin Goyal]

Masha Allah !! khuda altaf bhai ko sehat de.

 

[Kao Boy]

Its vice versa... As simple as that...

 

[pak avatar]

The same Pakistani officials who are engaged in an operation to discredit MQM since 1992? Yeah they are not exactly unbiased are they?".

Discredit MQM? im sure u will agree MQM has done that job marvelously themselves.
Plus the article says the BBC finds the source credible, im sure there senior editors wouldnt have sanctioned the article unless they were satisfied with the source and its creditability

 

[Pakistani E]

Plus the article says the BBC finds the source credible, im sure there senior editors wouldnt have sanctioned the article unless they were satisfied with the source and its creditability

So what? BBC also states a lot of things. Doesn't mean its true. And the only reason I keep mentioning about BBC getting information from Pakistani officials is because some here wish to use it a pretext that since BBC has published this article it must be true, while its whole premise is based on sources based in Pakistan.

Here let me make it easier for you and the others:

BBC publishes article with Pakistani source. Pakistanis say it must be true because its published by BBC. Forgetting the information given by the BBC article contains nothing but sources from within Pakistan. Do you see the contradiction here?

 

[pak avatar]

So what? BBC also states a lot of things. Doesn't mean its true. And the only reason I keep mentioning about BBC getting information from Pakistani officials is because some here wish to use it a pretext that since BBC has published this article it must be true, while its whole premise is based on sources based in Pakistan.

Here let me make it easier for you and the others:

BBC publishes article with Pakistani source. Pakistanis say it must be true because its published by BBC. Forgetting the information given by the BBC article contains nothing but sources from within Pakistan. Do you see the contradiction here?

obviously BBC would gets its sources from pakistan. they have done investigative journalism. take the axact story, it was a pakistani source that gave evidence not some white guy in US.everyone in karachi already knew wat axact did. Thus A story abt Pakistan and a Pakistan party would obviously have Pakistani Sources.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Nope, a BBC journalist or anyone not connected to the case will definitely not be privy to what is said in the recorded interview, not even a diplomat.

This is the law regarding recorded interviews:

Tape Security
Paragraph 6.2 of the Code of Practice (E) deals with the procedure to be adopted when it is necessary to gain access to the master tape. This requires a CPS representative to be present at the opening of the master tape if there are proceedings pending. A police officer has no authority to break the seal on a master copy.

It clearly states that once recorded, a random person can't just have access to what was said during the recorded interview, the only thing that's left is if someone who did the interview told this journalist, which again would mean a breach of the defendants confidentiality. Whatever way you look at it, the people conducting the interview has no business telling this journalist or a diplomat of what is said in the interview.

But he is stating a Pakistani source told him, I can only laugh at that.

OBJ didn't claim that he heard and/or read the transcripts of those 'interviews', and neither did I. OBJ is claiming that he was 'informed' that UK authorities 'interviewed' MQM officials and that the claims about being 'funded by India' were made in those interviews.

The question now is whether the source (who provided details about the interviews) is a UK official, multiple UK officials and whether the UK source or sources is credible. That is where OBJ's personal credibility comes into play, and based on his history so far, he's pretty credible.

 

[Sardar Anees Abbasi]

Masha Allah !! khuda altaf bhai ko sehat de.

Khuda Altaf bhai ko mout dy

 

[Pakistani E]

obviously BBC would gets its sources from pakistan. they have done investigative journalism. take the axact story, it was a pakistani source that gave evidence not some white guy in US.everyone in karachi already knew wat axact did. Thus A story abt Pakistan and a Pakistan party would obviously have Pakistani Sources.

But it says the news regarding came from the interviews of the two arrested MQM leaders in london. But the guy providing sources to BBC about what was said in these interviews is a Pakistani official and media. Its laughable that any sensible person will find this story credible, but eh whatever fits your narrative.

You can believe it if you want, I won't.

OBJ didn't claim that he heard and/or read the transcripts of those 'interviews', and neither did I. OBJ is claiming that he was 'informed' that UK authorities 'interviewed' MQM officials and that the claims about being 'funded by India' were made in those interviews.

The question now is whether the source (who provided details about the interviews) is a UK official, multiple UK officials and whether the UK source or sources is credible. That is where OBJ's personal credibility comes into play, and based on his history so far, he's pretty credible.

Then its all based on hearsay and nothing else. People can believe it if they want. I will with hold my judgement until this recorded interview is presented in court.

 

[Gujrat Media]

Really

 

[pak avatar]

I will with hold my judgement until this recorded interview is presented in court.

Hopefully time will tell whether its true or not and hopefully tht time will come soon.