Mouchak-Moghbazar flyover opens to traffic

[bluesky]

These are core vital artery, govt should pay for them. Auxiliary roads can be made as toll roads like what we see in USA called turnpikes.

So, why the govt should pay people's money for an expressway system that will be used and enjoyed by only a few people? Will it be fair to those poor tax payers who have no stake in these roads? I do not think, there cannot be at all any overhead highway without tolls. But, BD is a poor country and the additional expensive road system must be supported by people who can afford luxury. Otherwise, it will collapse because there will be no money to pay for maintenance.

 

[Al-zakir]

Your suggestion is correct to the point that a circular motor way is needed in Dhaka. When the flyovers are being constructed, there is an ongoing delayed process of building the 23km expressway. I am not sure if this can be extended to make a loop and connected with all the flyovers. So, there will be a crisscross of motorways. However, the gridlock will continue because there are almost no parallel bypasses a little away from the main existing roads. The bypasses must be connected at an angle with the existing roads to diversify the traffic. I think, Dhaka traffic jam will continue until when the Dhaka Metro rail starts operating.

Flyover is to connect inner traffic to outer highway of the city or one high way to another. That is it. It has no other functionality. Making flyover inside mega city is Bullock. It will create more traffic and it damage the over all look of the mega city. Dacca already crowded as hell and this this crap. Imagine a flyover middle of NYC time square.

If aim is to ease traffic then spend the money where it will benefit the citizens, not for show of.

I think the idiot politicians in BD are just copying what they are seeing in other parts of South and SE Asia.

From my layman's viewpoint, the solution to Dhaka's traffic problems are to build a huge motorway(6 lane) around Dhaka that will allow traffic to bypass it completely if required, and also speed up construction of the metro system that covers pretty much the whole of Dhaka. Yes this would cost 10-15 billion US dollars in total but spread over 10-15 years it would be affordable even for a poor country like BD.

Money should be spend wisely. Big headed politicians without sense of understanding the soultion to the problem cause more problem.

Some people in Bd just happy because there are flyover. They do not care if there is a purpose, benefit or not.

 

[bd_4_ever]

Some people in Bd just happy because there are flyover. They do not care if there is a purpose, benefit or not.

Agreed with you fully. I personally thing these flyovers dont serve much purpose as its not made to solve actual traffic problems. Our roads are much narrower anyway, over that such big flyovers cause a lot of visual and sound irritations.

They need to save these money and invest in projects that will actually tend to solve problems. May be take a look at how China or South Korea does it.

 

[Mage]

invest in projects that will actually tend to solve problems.

Which projects will actually solve problems?

 

[TopCat]

So, why the govt should pay people's money for an expressway system that will be used and enjoyed by only a few people? Will it be fair to those poor tax payers who have no stake in these roads? I do not think, there cannot be at all any overhead highway without tolls. But, BD is a poor country and the additional expensive road system must be supported by people who can afford luxury. Otherwise, it will collapse because there will be no money to pay for maintenance.

Your poor people cant use the Gulistan flyover due to high toll price. Most of the local buses, auto rickshaws avoid flyover. Flyover did not serve its purpose and your poor people still suffocating under the flyover in gridlocks as they dont have money to ride it.

 

[Al-zakir]

Which projects will actually solve problems?

Short term soulution would be widening existing road and making new roads wherever possible.

Long term goal and definite one would be circular road around Dacca. Fully developed water taxi service. Subway in commercial zone only.

 

[bluesky]

Your poor people cant use the Gulistan flyover due to high toll price. Most of the local buses, auto rickshaws avoid flyover. Flyover did not serve its purpose and your poor people still suffocating under the flyover in gridlocks as they dont have money to ride it.

Yet, there are always traffic jam on the flyovers. Rickshaws are not supposed to use these. But, I was talking about elevated expressway toll. Users must pay toll to support it if they want an uninterrupted long-term service.

By the way, can someone tell me if the road slab made of concrete slab carpeted with asphalt or not. I was in Dhaka a few months ago, but I forgot to notice. The concrete road surface must be covered with asphalt for the longevity of the structure below. I saw the asphalt component missing in many of the bridges in BD. The surface of all the RCC roads and bridges must be coated with at least 1/2" of asphalt.

Otherwise, the concrete structure breaks down. It surprised me to see the lack of knowledge of the civil engineers there. May be they do not know or are following some of the US examples where the govt policy is to build, destruct and re-build in quick sequence to give jobs to the construction sector. A poor country should not follow the bad US examples, although it has much better examples, too.

 

[bd_4_ever]

Which projects will actually solve problems?

I guess @Al-zakir mentioned it already.

We need to demolish the old buildings that we dont need and widen roads in those areas as much as possible, and try to move out the industries out of Dhaka. Moving the leather factories is a start. But the load will significantly only reduce if they manage to take all the garments factories outside Dhaka and allocate a special garments zone.

In the medium run, I expect the Metro to reduce a lot of load on the streets. People are so fed up themselves that they would voluntarily not use their cars when the Metro service is in full operation. The next would be the MRT Bus Service., expected to come into service by 2020. That will remove all the buses that now runs in Dhaka and dedicate a single lane for it.

In long run, we have to widen the scope of the water taxis and make it more popular. Build circular roads around Dhaka and bring in automatic traffic system. That will reduce a lot of the mess that we have right now. Coupled with the short and medium term actions, we can hope that the traffic problem will descend.

 

[Riyad]

 

[Mage]

Short term soulution would be widening existing road and making new roads wherever possible.

Long term goal and definite one would be circular road around Dacca. Fully developed water taxi service. Subway in commercial zone only.

Not many roads can be widened now. There are buildings everywhere. Demolishing them and building roads would be way too costly and time consuming.
Water taxi was tried and not sure what happened to it. The areas developed early are congested. Areas that were developed later has more road to area percentage like Purbchal and Uttara model town..