'Most challenging' US missile defence test a success

[tanlixiang28776]

Not very smart and observant, are you? But I guess I can excuse you Chinese boys, at least for being conscript rejects in the beginning. Unlike other products, weapons testings are very much destructive testing regimes, especially for missiles, which are essentially throw-away weapons. Each test, therefore, is costly and the amount of environmental and 'battlefield' influences should be tightly controlled for injections. A success is no less demanding of analysis, if not more, than if a particular test failed because sometimes the injection of an influence was improperly done, thereby skewing the test towards success.

Not very coherent are you? But thats excusable for a Vietnamese technician that thinks he can run the country better than Obama. Weapons like ABMs are not like conventional products because they do not need to turn over a profit. Developmental costs for something this necessary is chump change compared to the effect it has on global balance and power. Case in point the project continues to receive support despite all the failures. As for the failures themselves they are not disappointing. Simply the fact its so frequent after this much time, and money spent.

Calling you a 'boy' is not a racist insult, kid.

And neither is calling you a reject that tries to act white. Its not racist, its a fact based on your previous postings.

 

[DelhiDareDevil]

USA is really giving Iran and North Korea to much attention.

I reckon main reason is to defend against much more powerful nations..

 

[gambit]

Not very coherent are you? But thats excusable for a Vietnamese technician that thinks he can run the country better than Obama. Weapons like ABMs are not like conventional products because they do not need to turn over a profit. Developmental costs for something this necessary is chump change compared to the effect it has on global balance and power. Case in point the project continues to receive support despite all the failures. As for the failures themselves they are not disappointing. Simply the fact its so frequent after this much time, and money spent.

None of these has any bearing on the charge that these are 'rigged tests'. If Obama come down to my range and start telling me how to run my gear, I would politely tell the President to back off. But my arguments predate Obama, Bush, Clinton, and past presidents.

And neither is calling you a reject that tries to act white. Its not racist, its a fact based on your previous postings.

Ridiculous. You have yet define what behaviors constitute 'white' exclusively. So for you to say that I am trying to 'act white' is to be racist. But we should expect this kind of behaviors from you Chinese boys. You cannot help it. That is how you are raised.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

None of these has any bearing on the charge that these are 'rigged tests'. If Obama come down to my range and start telling me how to run my gear, I would politely tell the President to back off. But my arguments predate Obama, Bush, Clinton, and past presidents.

You seem to think I was the one who posted about rigging. I didn't. As for you thinking you can run the country better......Just stop embarrassing yourself.

Ridiculous. You have yet define what behaviors constitute 'white' exclusively. So for you to say that I am trying to 'act white' is to be racist. But we should expect this kind of behaviors from you Chinese boys. You cannot help it. That is how you are raised.

I meant that you try to completely to completely hide your identity by acting like a Caucasian American all the time. But I shouldn't expect much from a Vietnamese boy who thinks he is a military professional on all matters after maintaining planes. You can't help it. Thats just the delusional kind of person you are.

 

[below_freezing]

Antimissile Testing Is Rigged To Hide a Flaw, Critics Say - NYTimes.com

There is evidence for rigging.

US Anti-Missile Test Gets a Failing Grade

 

[gambit]

You seem to think I was the one who posted about rigging. I didn't. As for you thinking you can run the country better......Just stop embarrassing yourself.

Do not care who did. With your post #6, you effectively made the same charge in just a different way. But here is why I enjoy so much messing with you Chinese boys, for those of us who have experience in R/D testing, particularly weapons development of any kind, ALL TESTS ARE 'RIGGED'...!!!

If Chinese weapons development employs the same rigorous and incremental testing regime for Chinese weapons, I will repeat: ALL TESTS ARE 'RIGGED'...!!!

If you exclude factors that you know exists in the 'real world' scenario, such as testing during the day for now and night time later, and you have to exclude them in this incremental testing regime, you have 'rigged' the test towards a success...!!!

Automobile manufacturers does it. Prepared foods manufacturers does it when they present their products to limited consumer groups for feedbacks before refinements. All tests are very much 'rigged'.

You guys are too easy...

I meant that you try to completely to completely hide your identity by acting like a Caucasian American all the time. But I shouldn't expect much from a Vietnamese boy who thinks he is a military professional on all matters after maintaining planes. You can't help it. Thats just the delusional kind of person you are.

Then define what those acts are and how are they accepted by the scientific community.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Do not care who did. With your post #6, you effectively made the same charge in just a different way. But here is why I enjoy so much messing with you Chinese boys, for those of us who have experience in R/D testing, particularly weapons development of any kind, ALL TESTS ARE 'RIGGED'...!!!

No my charge was that the project was far too immature to rely on in a combat situation. Its so easy messing with a delusional Vietnamese boy who denies America can do wrong.

If you exclude factors that you know exists in the 'real world' scenario, such as testing during the day for now and night time later, and you have to exclude them in this incremental testing regime, you have 'rigged' the test towards a success...!!!

Its a little more than just testing at night or day.

You guys are too easy..

You are too easy...

 

[gambit]

No my charge was that the project was far too immature to rely on in a combat situation. Its so easy messing with a delusional Vietnamese boy who denies America can do wrong.

Now THAT is funny. The original article was about one test in a series. The criticism was that the test, not the entire BMD program, was...errrr...'rigged'. It is too late. You got caught with your pants down.

Its a little more than just testing at night or day.

Absolutely it is. That is why we have 'rigged' tests.

Let us take a look at your NY Times article...

Antimissile Testing Is Rigged To Hide a Flaw, Critics Say - NYTimes.com

...have been rigged to hide a fundamental flaw: The system cannot distinguish between enemy warheads and decoys.

''that none of the tests address the reasonable range of countermeasures,'' or decoys that an enemy would use to try to outwit an antimissile weapon.

First...Were these tests INTENDED to include those factors? If they were not, then the charge is ludicrous even though the final intention of the program is to have the ability to distinguish decoys from the 'real' warhead. That is what an incremental testing regime supposed to do: EXCLUDE certain factors and inject them later. So if the criticisms of these tests are based upon the final intention of the program, then those criticisms are unfair no matter the credentials of whoever made those criticisms.

Second...At what point do these decoys are supposed to be deployed? Who is supposed to be the one distinguishing the decoys from the real warhead, the ground radar or the interceptor itself? If the system is supposed to have the ground radar to be the discriminator, then the criticisms are still unfair in the absence of these details.

For a nuclear ICBM, this is what the 'bus' that holds the warhead looks like...

None of those are decoys. So for a non-nuclear theater level ballistic missile, decoys are actually detrimental because they reduce the odds of producing sufficient level of disabling damages to the target. Ever heard of circular error probability (CEP)? Here it is for the conscript rejects to learn...

For a non-nuclear theater level ballistic missile, we want 'High accuracy, High precision' if we have the technology to do so. If not, then we want 'High accuracy, Low precision' but that would mean an increased number of warheads in both singular and multiple missiles assault. Decoys would take away the odds of having that disabling and debilitating damages to the target.

A nuclear warhead is a much more expensive weapon to lose from a high atmospheric interception, so decoys would be valuable.

So if the program intends for the ground radar to be the discriminator of decoys from real, then we need the details of the particular tests before we can determine if there are any deliberate deceptions and where they might be. If the ground radar cannot perform as expected, then the interceptor cannot be faulted. We need details. But since am talking to a bunch of gullible conscript rejects, details would be irrelevant.

You are too easy...

I have yet to see anything from you conscript rejects close to what I have posted so far.

 

[Obambam]

 

[gambit]

Yes...Why not make the criteria to be panel 2408 on the nosecone? That is even more difficult a target than the nosecone itself. You missed the fact that the interceptions were successful. A tumbling vehicle effectively rendered the warhead useless if not completely destroyed. So if this is a non-nuclear warhead, the ground target was protected. We should not expect much from you conscript rejects.

 

[below_freezing]

Yes...Why not make the criteria to be panel 2408 on the nosecone? That is even more difficult a target than the nosecone itself. You missed the fact that the interceptions were successful. A tumbling vehicle effectively rendered the warhead useless if not completely destroyed. So if this is a non-nuclear warhead, the ground target was protected. We should not expect much from you conscript rejects.

not one person in China has been conscripted since 1949, but you would know much about conscription seeing that US army conscripts inflicted genocide on your home country, and now you have joined the same group of US army conscripts

 

[gambit]

not one person in China has been conscripted since 1949, but you would know much about conscription seeing that US army conscripts inflicted genocide on your home country, and now you have joined the same group of US army conscripts

That is a lie...

PLA Enlisted Force - Conscripts

At present, the proportion of conscripts from urban areas accounts for just over 33% with the remaining 67% conscripted from rural areas.

A bunch of conscript rejects lying for the Chinese government to make up for their rejections...

 

[amalakas]

You don't have to argue that hard guys.

The first people that get nervous, and I mean really nervous, are the people who get to use the system.

I'll remind you of the alleged patriot defence system in Israel during the gulf war. According to CNN, it offered spectacular defence, later on the Israelis told us that it almost had 0% effect on the incoming scuds.

Hence the Iron Dome development.

Now I think the US has learned from that lesson, I don't think they will allow for another such .. underperforming system to be passed through the various stages of development without scrutiny in every step.

 

[graphican]

"Fainting Superpower" to be exact.

 

[GORKHALI]

"Fainting Superpower" to be exact.

I would suggest not to underestimate USA, you never know when they again bounce back with bang.