More than 50 afghan soldiers killed:IG FC

[Mian Babban]

From what I could gather so far. Pakistan couple of years ago dug trench there to stop terrorists but that was well with in Pakistan borders and these 3 villages ended up on other side of trench, it wasn't demarcation of border. People there have Pakistani identity cards, electricity lines and go to Pakistani schools since for ever.

Based on that trench afghans started to claim that these 3 villages now belong to them. Pakistan said that our land was not negotiable and they will conduct census no matter what. I don't know when but census team likely went there and then afghanis started to fire on civilians who cooperated with census team.

Now reading Tolo news, Abdul razaq is only mentioning about Killa Luqman village. Half of that village is in Pakistan and half in Afghanistan and locals even know which tree belong to which country. Either both will accept google maps etc boundary line and divide village or there will be another episode. I don't think Pakistan is willing to give inch going by General statement.

The border was poorly drawn and demarcated by Angraiz.......many villages ended up right on the top of border and at many places border was not even demarcated.....Most of the clashes on Durand line between Afghanistan and Pakistan are because of the demarcation dispute.......the border was supposed to be clearly drawn at some point but Pakistan refuse to change it as she considers it international border while Afghanistan does not recognize the border to begin with.

 

[Kabira]

The border was poorly drawn and demarcated by Angraiz.......many villages ended up right on the top of border and at many places border was not even demarcated.....Most of the clashes on Durand line between Afghanistan and Pakistan are because of the demarcation dispute.......the border was supposed to be clearly drawn at some point but Pakistan refuse to change it as she considers it international border while Afghanistan does not recognize the border to begin with.

In ideal situation both countries should have done that in early 50's, give and take like Pakistan did with China and Iran border in some places. Now after 70 years too much water has flowed under the bridge.

 

[Sher Malang]

I heard the ANA knocked out 2,400 tanks with a single RPG? Do you know the where abouts of the 800 men that surrendered? It's been 24 hours, their families miss them.

You are a moderator, act like one.

 

[Winged Hussars]

Only two Afghan border policemen lost their lives.

Afghanistan Rejects Pakistan Claim of Killing 50 Afghan Forces
Bloomberg
Eltaf Najafizada
Sunday May 07, 2017 13:25:03 GMT+0100

Afghanistan’s Interior Ministry denied a report by Pakistan that 50 Afghan forces were killed in a skirmish last week, a spokesman said Sunday.
The border fight erupted in the past few days in Kandahar province and ended with both sides announcing a cease-fire, Najib Danish, a spokesman to the Interior Ministry, said by phone. Pakistan’s army had said it destroyed at least five Afghan checkpoints, the Associated Press reported Sunday.

Danish said fighting killed two Afghan border policemen and wounded 11 others. One civilian died and 30 other civilians were hurt in the rocket attacks from Pakistani forces, the spokesman said.
Pakistani Army Major General Nadeem Ahmad told reporters Sunday at the Chaman border crossing that about 50 security forces died, while two of his soldiers were killed and another nine were wounded, according to the AP.

 

[SHAH820]

Only two Afghan border policemen lost their lives.

Afghanistan Rejects Pakistan Claim of Killing 50 Afghan Forces
Bloomberg
Eltaf Najafizada
Sunday May 07, 2017 13:25:03 GMT+0100

Afghanistan’s Interior Ministry denied a report by Pakistan that 50 Afghan forces were killed in a skirmish last week, a spokesman said Sunday.
The border fight erupted in the past few days in Kandahar province and ended with both sides announcing a cease-fire, Najib Danish, a spokesman to the Interior Ministry, said by phone. Pakistan’s army had said it destroyed at least five Afghan checkpoints, the Associated Press reported Sunday.

Danish said fighting killed two Afghan border policemen and wounded 11 others. One civilian died and 30 other civilians were hurt in the rocket attacks from Pakistani forces, the spokesman said.
Pakistani Army Major General Nadeem Ahmad told reporters Sunday at the Chaman border crossing that about 50 security forces died, while two of his soldiers were killed and another nine were wounded, according to the AP.

yes we all can see you dont know how to count wasn't expecting anything like this from an indian we all know afghanistan dont have schools to educate their people but from an indian hmmmmm...... but what you can expect from an stupid http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...es-index-ipsos-mori-poll-survey-a7481196.html

This video is being posted on some websites showing Afghan casualties.

https://www.facebook.com/

now tell me how many bodies are their

 

[lastofthepatriots]

good luck for that one FC look we kill more then 50 afghan rats
only one jeep contain about 7-8 bodie

their are more deads

Can't you tell the people in the video are speaking Arabic? And that was quite graphic. I'd suggest you remove it.

 

[Sher Malang]

Look boys, Pakistani soldiers left their uniforms with APCs and both were captured by the Afghan border police:

And the video:

https://www.facebook.com/

Sorry for the foul language

 

[tarrar]

PA should use armed drones to monitor the border24/7. The order for the drone should be shoot to kill if any unwanted situation occurs or is about to occur.

 

[pakdefender]

Afghan soldiers are getting killed at a rate 400 per month , if they open another front with Pakistan their losses will double

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/05/high-losses-afghan-forces-winter-170501041116344.html

The US government's Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR) says 807 troops from the Afghan National Defence and Security Forces (ANDSF) died between January 1 and February 24.

The attack on Chaman speaks volumes about the infinite stupidity and lack of respect for own life and others that the baboons living in Afghanistan have

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

And before the Afghans, those area was under control of the Turks with Ak Huns, Göktürks, Timurids etc. Should we claim these lands just because we ruled them for centuries?

Every people came from Afrika, and went to somewhere else. Claiming lands because of someone ruled that place is just stupid.

Afghanistan must respect Pakistan, or they will lose Turkey's friendship as well.

And enemy wonder why Pakistanis love and adore Turks..Same feelings here as well regarding Turkiye.

 

[Sher Malang]

@SHAH820

That's a very old video from northern Afghanistan I guess. + ANA was not involved in the recent chaman clashes it was only border police.

Accept the failure or I will put more videos and photos of surrenders and APCs don't humiliate yourselves more by posting false videos.

 

[IceCold]

Khamma press for the torkham clash that happened on Friday night. Its in the main thread. Every word of it.

Our own media for the MOAB destroying windows.

In torkham incident again neutral media.





Yes so unless she is the IGFC here I think her claims need to be given some water don't you think. After all she said what he stated two days ago at 3:34 pm I believe. By all accounts don't believe in it.



Afghanistan has always attacked us. It attacked us in the 1960s when it was undergoing a troublesome low level civil disunity. It attack us when the soviet controlled it as well. It attacked us in 2007. It attacked us in 2011. It attacked us in 2016 in torkham and it attacked us a month ago as well and now. It will always have the audacity bcz they hate us. India's hatred is nothing compared to this. They invaded bajuar in 1960s yet we loved them. This will not be the last incident.



More restraint than capability. Going to war is not that easy. We didn't go in torkham and we won't go now. Yes the attack was horrendous but war is not in Pakistan's agenda. Which is why when they asked for ceasefire we accepted. When flag meetings happened we attended.



I understand your frustration. I really do. A powerful destructive response with land annexations but pakistan won't do that. If Afghanistan wasnt in our sphere of threat perception after the invasion of bajuar then it won't be now.

There are many reasons for this appeasement policy and you know very well what they are. You are smart. You know why the most we are doing is building border controls and fences and not going for full scale wars.

However we are reaching limits. Even analysts know that we are reaching limits. Many of them have called it the most greatest build up of military and most war like situation in history of Afghanistan pakistan.

Anyhow. Geological survey is being done. This was our call since we were saying use maps and Google maps and its our territory.

I am.going to bed. I know it's hard and I know that you want us to launch fifty nukes to remove their very existence but pakistan won't do that and you know why. As @Icarus said it will always be proportional response. Always.

First of all i dont want to launch 50 nukes as it will be an over kill however whats stopping us from laying waste to Afghan check posts. How about 50 check posts instead? A bombing run by PAF would give them a clear message no?
Also i am not doubting Spring Onion (Jana) reporting here, i know her long enough, i am doubting the statement made by FC. After all we talk so much about deterrence yet cannot stop a country like Afghanistan from initiating attacks in the first place, shouldn't this be worrying?
Ok let me put it this way lets say i agree with 50 Afghan soldiers killed etc etc, but will this prevent future attack from Afghanistan? History tells us no even though we kept hearing of proportional response from our side, so we failed when it comes to deterrence and prevent another country from attacking us in the first place. So what impression does this leave on India? Afghanistan is no match for us militarily yet they dont shy away from testing our resolve every now and than, India is more than our match. You see when you cant prevent an attack from say a country like Afghanistan, this sets a dangerous precedent which others may be inclined to follow. Hope i make myself clear this time.

 

[RangeMaster]

SYED ALI SHAH
UPDATED ABOUT 2 HOURS AGO
DAWN NEWS
Inspector General (IG) Frontier Corps (FC) Balochistan Maj Gen Nadeem Anjum on Sunday claimed that 50 Afghan security personnel were killed and another 100 injured as Pakistani forces retaliated to unprovoked firing by Afghan border forces on security personnel in Balochistan's Chaman area last week.

He added, however, that "we are not happy over their losses since they are our Muslim brothers".

The IG FC was briefing the media over a recent cross-border attack in Chaman, in which 12 people were killed and 40 injured when Afghan border forces opened fire on security personnel guarding a census team, although Afghanistan had been informed of the exercise in advance.

The attack caused residents in Killi Luqman, Killi Jahangir and Badshah Adda Kahol evacuating their homes as Chaman was shut down and security ramped up in Quetta and other parts of Balochistan.

The FC Balochistan chief said four or five check posts were also destroyed when Pakistani border guards retaliated to the cross-border attack.

Gen Anjum said that on May 5, Afghanistan pleaded for ceasefire, which Pakistan accepted.

The FC Balochistan chief said that Afghan authorities targeted civilians even though they had been informed about the on-going census exercise.

Earlier, Commander Southern Command Lt Gen Aamir Riaz termed the cross-border attack as 'shameful'.

"This was a shameful act to target civilians at the border villages of Pakistan," Riaz told journalists at Chaman during a visit to the area.

He said that Afghanistan would not benefit from such attacks in any way and that the Afghan government should be ashamed of such acts.

Officials agree to use geological survey
Pakistani and Afghan military commanders on Sunday agreed to carry out a geological survey of the border area, reported DawnNews.

This was decided in the third flag meeting between the commanders of the two sides. Geological experts also attended the meeting, held at the Friendship Gate. It was the third consecutive meeting in three days. Earlier, two such meetings had ended without any decision.

The meeting also deliberated a suggestion for usage of google maps.

 

[Hammad Arshad Qureshi]

Look boys, Pakistani soldiers left their uniforms with APCs and both were captured by the Afghan border police:

And the video:

https://www.facebook.com/

Sorry for the foul language

Lol dude . The amount of propaganda your Afghando Army and government do against Pakistan is too damn much. The above video of overly excited Afghan Troops is fake. Any Pakistani soldier/ FC troops can easily tell you idiots are bluffing and Because of following reasons.
1) Look at the uniform closely did you idiots really think it is the uniform of FC? This is completely fake . How can I tell check the tags on the shirt . The tags of the units or corps are always under Pakistani Flag. And in the video it's on opposite side. And also the tags in video are not matching with FC uniform. (Check attached picture of FC and look into shoulders are tags matching with each other?). The shown uniform is easily available in markets of Chaman and Peshawar.
2) You guys claimed that you have destroyed AFC as shown in the video. First of all if that is true then we could have either saw flames or smoke rising from the vehicle. Because whenever the AFC or tank is hit by RPG or ATGM the fire and smoke keeps on rising for plenty of time before it is extinguished due to sheer intensity of impact. But in the video we can see no smoke or flames. Let alone fire.
3) Usually FC don't use AFC. And Pakistan Army uses Talha Class AFC. Now search for pictures of Talha AFC and compare with the one in the video and kill yourself.
4) I am one hundred percent sure that you Tajik and Uzbek Northern alliance idiots ever had opportunity to visit to visit killi Jahangir or Killi luckman of spin boldak. That you are claiming that it is easy to go on full frontal assualt on AFC. I will give you one example the city of Chaman has created trenches around it's borders to stop infiltration of refugees , terrorists and smugglers but we were unable to build the same around these two villages because the terrain is very rough. Now you genius tell me if the terrain is soo rough even for trenches then how come AFC will move into it?

most of FC mens are also junkies and bacha baz just like ANA. they are recruited mostly from the bacha baz infested area of kpk and they belong mostly from the artisan class. you never know how many enemy soldiers got killed, claiming a big figure is just to counter the humiliation they received in a battlefield, as we see in the videos

@Oscar @wazz @mods for your kind review thanks

 

[PakSword]

Lol dude . The amount of propaganda your Afghando Army and government do against Pakistan is too damn much. The above video of overly excited Afghan Troops is fake. Any Pakistani soldier/ FC troops can easily tell you idiots are bluffing and Because of following reasons.
1) Look at the uniform closely did you idiots really think it is the uniform of FC? This is completely fake . How can I tell check the tags on the shirt . The tags of the units or corps are always under Pakistani Flag. And in the video it's on opposite side. And also the tags in video are not matching with FC uniform. (Check attached picture of FC and look into shoulders are tags matching with each other?). The shown uniform is easily available in markets of Chaman and Peshawar.
2) You guys claimed that you have destroyed AFC as shown in the video. First of all if that is true then we could have either saw flames or smoke rising from the vehicle. Because whenever the AFC or tank is hit by RPG or ATGM the fire and smoke keeps on rising for plenty of time before it is extinguished due to sheer intensity of impact. But in the video we can see no smoke or flames. Let alone fire.
3) Usually FC don't use AFC. And Pakistan Army uses Talha Class AFC. Now search for pictures of Talha AFC and compare with the one in the video and kill yourself.
4) I am one hundred percent sure that you Tajik and Uzbek Northern alliance idiots ever had opportunity to visit to visit killi Jahangir or Killi luckman of spin boldak. That you are claiming that it is easy to go on full frontal assualt on AFC. I will give you one example the city of Chaman has created trenches around it's borders to stop infiltration of refugees , terrorists and smugglers but we were unable to build the same around these two villages because the terrain is very rough. Now you genius tell me if the terrain is soo rough even for trenches then how come AFC will move into it? View attachment 395342 View attachment 395343


@Oscar @wazz @mods for your kind review thanks

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