More India war games on Pakistan's borders

[HAIDER]

NEW DELHI, May 8 (AFP) India is deploying battle tanks and combat troops for the second major wargames in a month along Pakistan's borders, the military said Tuesday. The four-day exercise beginning Friday will be carried out on the arid plains of Jullandhar in the northern state of Punjab, the defence ministry said. Codenamed Shatrunash or Death to the Enemy, the latest exercises will involve more than 15,000 troops backed by around 150 Russian-built T-90 tanks, artillery and helicopter gunships, commanders said. The defence ministry said Shatrunash will also test newly-acquired electronic warfare systems. (Posted @ 12:10 PST)
http://dawn.com/2007/05/08/welcome.htm

 

[Adux]

Arjun's were used in the War game, wasnt it?

 

[HAIDER]

Yeah i didn t notice..no arujun

 

[Adux]

43rd Armour Regiment and ex-officer’s satisfied with Arjun Tank
7 May, 2007 (FIDSNS)

Replying to Standing Committe on Defence(2004-2005) the representative of the Ministry of Defence during oral evidence has stated “We have no difficulty to go this summer with the five tanks which the Army would like to put through its own accelerated user trials. Arjun has been checked by the DRDO alongwith 43 Armour Regiment”

On April 22, 2006, in an ‘Know Your Army’ exhibition, when asked by a reporter on Arjun tank, Brig (Retd) Prabir Goswami replied “it’s a highly-sophisticated tank with several state-of-the-art components and a ”very high first round hit capability,” a must to survive in an increasingly hostile battlefield having multiple anti-tank threats compounded by developed terrain restrictions on India’s western border.”

On being asked that the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) developed MBT Arjun’s 120 mm-calibre rifled gun was of the same diameter as the M256 smoothbore gun on the US Army’s M1A2 Abrams, the expert said, ”The gun is very important but it is a part of a weapon system - the whole tank - and the difference is that the Americans are old hands at this game.

”The American advantage of private firms manufacturing prototypes for trials, as part of a competitive environment entailing selection of the best, bespeaks of the amount of finances these firms are willing to spend to develop such sophisticated weaponry. Still, the MBT has several good points and should help the DRDO develop more efficient models in future.”

Brig (Retd) Prabir Goswami who commanded 16 Independent Armoured Brigade during Operation Vijay the Kargil conflict is also awarded with Vishisht Seva Medal.

Arjun Tank and DRDO have been under attack from vested interest from both within the Indian Army, middlemen and foreign agencies who would not like to see India to produce major weapon systems indegenously. While there have doctored media report in media against Arjun Tank, the Indian Army Tank users do not have problems with Arjun Tank. The T-90S tanks imported from Russia are under cloud as the tanks have developed defects. The tanks were imported without proper testing and despite the T-90S failing tests in Indian desert conditions. T-90S is not ment for Indian conditions, where as, Arjun Tank has been tested more than 100,000 kilometers and perfected in Indian conditions.


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[Keysersoze]

43rd Armour Regiment and ex-officer’s satisfied with Arjun Tank
7 May, 2007 (FIDSNS)

Replying to Standing Committe on Defence(2004-2005) the representative of the Ministry of Defence during oral evidence has stated “We have no difficulty to go this summer with the five tanks which the Army would like to put through its own accelerated user trials. Arjun has been checked by the DRDO alongwith 43 Armour Regiment”

On April 22, 2006, in an ‘Know Your Army’ exhibition, when asked by a reporter on Arjun tank, Brig (Retd) Prabir Goswami replied “it’s a highly-sophisticated tank with several state-of-the-art components and a ”very high first round hit capability,” a must to survive in an increasingly hostile battlefield having multiple anti-tank threats compounded by developed terrain restrictions on India’s western border.”

On being asked that the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) developed MBT Arjun’s 120 mm-calibre rifled gun was of the same diameter as the M256 smoothbore gun on the US Army’s M1A2 Abrams, the expert said, ”The gun is very important but it is a part of a weapon system - the whole tank - and the difference is that the Americans are old hands at this game.

”The American advantage of private firms manufacturing prototypes for trials, as part of a competitive environment entailing selection of the best, bespeaks of the amount of finances these firms are willing to spend to develop such sophisticated weaponry. Still, the MBT has several good points and should help the DRDO develop more efficient models in future.”

Brig (Retd) Prabir Goswami who commanded 16 Independent Armoured Brigade during Operation Vijay the Kargil conflict is also awarded with Vishisht Seva Medal.

Arjun Tank and DRDO have been under attack from vested interest from both within the Indian Army, middlemen and foreign agencies who would not like to see India to produce major weapon systems indegenously. While there have doctored media report in media against Arjun Tank, the Indian Army Tank users do not have problems with Arjun Tank. The T-90S tanks imported from Russia are under cloud as the tanks have developed defects. The tanks were imported without proper testing and despite the T-90S failing tests in Indian desert conditions. T-90S is not ment for Indian conditions, where as, Arjun Tank has been tested more than 100,000 kilometers and perfected in Indian conditions.


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Dude yet another ambiguous article where the title bears no relation to what the interviewee has said.

 

[Bull]

Dude yet another ambiguous article where the title bears no relation to what the interviewee has said.

Didiu read it key? Well what more do you want to justify the title.

Replying to Standing Committe on Defence(2004-2005) the representative of the Ministry of Defence during oral evidence has stated “We have no difficulty to go this summer with the five tanks which the Army would like to put through its own accelerated user trials. Arjun has been checked by the DRDO alongwith 43 Armour Regiment”.

On April 22, 2006, in an ‘Know Your Army’ exhibition, when asked by a reporter on Arjun tank, Brig (Retd) Prabir Goswami replied “it’s a highly-sophisticated tank with several state-of-the-art components and a ”very high first round hit capability,” a must to survive in an increasingly hostile battlefield having multiple anti-tank threats compounded by developed terrain restrictions on India’s western border.”

On being asked that the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) developed MBT Arjun’s 120 mm-calibre rifled gun was of the same diameter as the M256 smoothbore gun on the US Army’s M1A2 Abrams, the expert said, ”The gun is very important but it is a part of a weapon system - the whole tank - and the difference is that the Americans are old hands at this game.

”Still, the MBT has several good points and should help the DRDO develop more efficient models in future.”.

The tanks were imported without proper testing and despite the T-90S failing tests in Indian desert conditions. T-90S is not ment for Indian conditions, where as, Arjun Tank has been tested more than 100,000 kilometers and perfected in Indian conditions..

 

[alamgir]

indian army unsure about arjun tanks role Pallu (Rajasthan), May 2 (IANS) The Indian Army seems unimpressed with the indigenously developed Arjun main battle tank (MBT) that has been 34 years in the making - and is unsure about the role in which it can be deployed.


These are the conclusions that can be drawn by the remarks of the army chief, Gen. J.J. Singh, during a war game conducted in Rajasthan’s Thar Desert at which limited numbers of the Arjun were seen in action.

“We have to make sure the troops are not exposed to any disadvantage,” Singh replied cryptically when asked about Arjun’s performance during the five-day Exercise Ashwamedh April 29-May 3. A squadron of 14 Arjuns was deployed during the drill.

Singh was speaking to reporters here on the penultimate day of the exercise Wednesday. Pallu is located some 400 km from Rajasthan capital Jaipur.

“If improvements are required in the system, it will be pointed out (to the developers Defence Research and Development Organisation-DRDO),” the army chief maintained.

“We will draw lessons from the exercise on which area they (the Arjuns) can be best exploited,” he added.

While not officially going on record, the army is known to be extremely unhappy with the Arjun, having listed 14 defects that need to be rectified.These include a deficient fire control system, inaccuracy of its guns, low speeds in tactical areas - principally deserts - and its inability to operate in temperatures over 50 degrees Celsius.

At a review meeting with the DRDO last month, Defence Minister A.K. Antony is known to have asked the organisation to get its act together to rectify these defects or the government might have to take another look at the entire programme.

Parliament’s Standing Committee on Defence has, in two reports earlier this year, remarked adversely on the slow pace of Arjun’s development and asked the DRDO to quicken the process.

The Indian Army laid down its qualitative requirement (QR) for the Arjun in 1972. In 1982, the DRDO had announced that the prototype was ready for field trials. However, the tank was publicly unveiled for the first time only in 1995.

Arjun was originally meant to be a 40-tonne tank with a 105 mm gun. It has now grown to a 50-tonne vehicle with a 120 mm gun.

The tank was meant to supplement and eventually replace the Soviet-era T-72 MBT that was first inducted in the early 1980s. However, delays in the Arjun project, and Pakistan’s decision to purchase the T-80 from Ukraine, prompted India to order 310 T-90s, an upgraded version of the T-72, in 2001.

Of these, 186 were built at the Heavy Vehicles Factory at Avadi in Tamil Nadu. An agreement was also signed for the licensed production of another 1,000 T-90s.

With the Arjun development delayed still further, India last year signed a fresh contract with Russia to buy another 330 T-90s.



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[mujtabaidreessheikh]

according to india times:
JAISALMER: The Pakistan army has heightened its activities close to the Indian border in Rajasthan sector. According to sources, Pakistan army
troops, withdrawn from Afghan border, is being deployed close to the Indian border on Rajasthan and Punjab. Not only have the soldiers' strength increased in these areas, but Pakistan officials have been spotted frequenting these posts.

Along with the Pakistani Rangers, who usually occupy the check-posts, there is an increased presence of Pakistani army.

Movement of Army vehicles and other activities are also been observed in this area. According to reliable sources, even after the Pakistan Army's war excercise on the border adjoining Rajasthan and Punjab, the troops have not been withdrawn. Troops belonging to the Karachi-based corps is spotted in these drills.

 

[mujtabaidreessheikh]

An Israeli media suggests that Tel Aviv might help India carry out covert operations inside Pakistan in retaliation for the Mumbai attacks. India has asked for Israeli assistance in cross-border attacks against “Pakistanis” inside Pakistan, reported Debka which is believed to have ties with intelligence and military sources.

 

[Lockheed F-16]

They should play wargames on the Pakistan border because in a real war, it's GAME OVER for India