Monk dubbed 'Buddhist Bin Laden' targets Myanmar's persecuted Muslims

[DrawingDead]

Well, they are not entirely angels either. If you listen to the Burmese side of the story, you would know. Quite sure if they remained as responsible citizens, this wouldn't happen today. There's a Chinese community in Burma who are quite successful too. And the days of colonialism messed up the demographics in the region. For instance, there was a large community of Hindu Nepalis in Buddhist Bhutan but after the collapse of the British empire, they were expelled from Bhutan in the same way.

No, I'm sure they're not angels and I'd very much like to hear the Burmese side of the story as long as they've got a little more than well, they're not really Burmese. But the thing is, Burma doesn't recognize them as citizens so there's no question of being responsible citizens. What are they supposed to do? I agree that colonialism made a mess, not just here but in a lot of places throughout the world but 70 years and several generations later, Burma can't just keep pretending that these people don't belong there. It puts a lot of pressure on the other countries in the region. They now either have to leave them out on the open seas to their fate or accept them and provide services for them. How is that fair to them?

 

[Azizam]

No, I'm sure they're not angels and I'd very much like to hear the Burmese side of the story as long as they've got a little more than well, they're not really Burmese. But the thing is, Burma doesn't recognize them as citizens so there's no question of being responsible citizens. What are they supposed to do? I agree that colonialism made a mess, not just here but in a lot of places throughout the world but 70 years and several generations later, Burma can't just keep pretending that these people don't belong there. It puts a lot of pressure on the other countries in the region. They now either have to leave them out on the open seas to their fate or accept them and provide services for them. How is that fair to them?

I can understand your perspective. However the dynamics of that region is totally different. As long as there was no significant persecution, the Rohingyas were rioting, committing crimes and aggressively spreading their religion. Their fertility rate was also higher. They were given a chance to integrate into the Burmese culture many times but they refused. For instance, they refuse to send their children into conventional schools and prefer primarily religious education. So the outcome is unproductive citizens. Will the US government tolerate this inside US borders? And also another important thing is that majority of the pictures circulating on the internet about the conflict in Burma are fake. Most are from an earthquake in Tibet.

I don't hate them, I just don't true them. Especially because in my country of origin, we had a king who helped the "oppressed muslim" in the colonial times and today we are paying the price for it.

 

[me_itsme]

All over the world were brutal death and destruction is involved Islam is also involved. Why is that? Not bad mouthing Islam or anything but people who follow Islam mostly cannot stay peacefully with people of other religion or in some cases with other Muslims as well. Also there are few Muslims who integrate themselves with other religion and cultures and live peacefully but unfortunately that % is very low.

 

[hussain0216]

I can understand your perspective. However the dynamics of that region is totally different. As long as there was no significant persecution, the Rohingyas were rioting, committing crimes and aggressively spreading their religion. Their fertility rate was also higher. They were given a chance to integrate into the Burmese culture many times but they refused. For instance, they refuse to send their children into conventional schools and prefer primarily religious education. So the outcome is unproductive citizens. Will the US government tolerate this inside US borders? And also another important thing is that majority of the pictures circulating on the internet about the conflict in Burma are fake. Most are from an earthquake in Tibet.

I don't hate them, I just don't true them. Especially because in my country of origin, we had a king who helped the "oppressed muslim" in the colonial times and today we are paying the price for it.

These are lies and excuses to justify the persecution of a poor minority

Your a hypocrite justifying these innocent peoples persecution at the hands of militant buddists why shouldn't muslims become ecen more intolerant of minorities when muslim minorities persecution is justified through lies

All over the world were brutal death and destruction is involved Islam is also involved. Why is that? Not bad mouthing Islam or anything but people who follow Islam mostly cannot stay peacefully with people of other religion or in some cases with other Muslims as well. Also there are few Muslims who integrate themselves with other religion and cultures and live peacefully but unfortunately that % is very low.

It is the true religion the will of God, when it is suppressed the faithful muslims will defend themselves

Militant buddists are persecuting innocent unarmed Rohinga
No schools
no hospitals
no citizenship
and state persecution


It is a human and muslim right to stand up against this brutality and oppression

 

[Azizam]

These are lies and excuses to justify the persecution of a poor minority

Your a hypocrite justifying these innocent peoples persecution at the hands of militant buddists why shouldn't muslims become ecen more intolerant of minorities when muslim minorities persecution is justified through lies

Muslims are already intolerant. Constitution of even the so-called moderate-muslim countries are defined to wipe non-muslims out eventually. There's almost no minorities left in Pakistan and even the remaining tiny number can't live in peace. Their daughters are kidnapped, forcefully married and converted to islam. Men are randomly killed for being accused of blasphemy, It has come a point where even the minorities among muslims are threatened. So there's nothing left to persecute any more. I am not a hypocrite. I don't advocate anything in muslim-majority countries. All I am saying is, muslims should be treated in the same way how they treat minorities.

1,000 minority girls forced in marriage every year: report - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Christian Girls in Egypt Kidnapped, Raped, Converted

 

[Adecypher]

I can understand your perspective. However the dynamics of that region is totally different. As long as there was no significant persecution, the Rohingyas were rioting, committing crimes and aggressively spreading their religion. Their fertility rate was also higher. They were given a chance to integrate into the Burmese culture many times but they refused. For instance, they refuse to send their children into conventional schools and prefer primarily religious education. So the outcome is unproductive citizens. Will the US government tolerate this inside US borders? And also another important thing is that majority of the pictures circulating on the internet about the conflict in Burma are fake. Most are from an earthquake in Tibet.

I don't hate them, I just don't true them. Especially because in my country of origin, we had a king who helped the "oppressed muslim" in the colonial times and today we are paying the price for it.

Not disagreeing with you but a link or two to support you claim will be beneficial for all of us.

 

[hussain0216]

Muslims are already intolerant. Constitution of even the so-called moderate-muslim countries are defined to wipe non-muslims out eventually. There's almost no minorities left in Pakistan and even the remaining tiny number can't live in peace. Their daughters are kidnapped, forcefully married and converted to islam. Men are randomly killed for being accused of blasphemy, It has come a point where even the minorities among muslims are threatened. So there's nothing left to persecute any more. I am not a hypocrite. I don't advocate anything in muslim-majority countries. All I am saying is, muslims should be treated in the same way how they treat minorities.

1,000 minority girls forced in marriage every year: report - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Christian Girls in Egypt Kidnapped, Raped, Converted

But all this is justified

Why shouldn't we be intolerant

Others are intolerant of us, the Rohinga are innocent but are being persecuted buddists and non muslims like you are justifying their persecution


Why should muslims then be tolerant or heed calls to be tolerant


The justification of the persecution of the Rohinga Also justifies the annihilation of the Yazidis, Christians, hindus, conversions etc

Not disagreeing with you but a link or two to support you claim will be beneficial for all of us.

He is talking B.S just trying to justify persecution

How the hell did were the Rohinga given a chance to integrate when they aren't even accepted as citizens thus have no to limited access to schools or hospitals etc

The only options they have is schools set up by themselves, they are indeed highly abused and persecuted

 

[Azizam]

Not disagreeing with you but a link or two to support you claim will be beneficial for all of us.

Rohingya rebellion in Western Burma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rape-Murder of a Buddhist girl by Muslims led to riots: Myanmar Ambassador | TwoCircles.net

Note that this has been happening for a long time.



Thailand also has a similar problem. The difference is that Thais, unlike Burmese, tolerate muslims and this is the result.

Suspected Muslim insurgents kill Buddhist teacher, set her on fire in southern Thailand | CTV News

Burnings and beheadings strike fear in south Thailand ucanews.com

There's even hardly any news about this.

But all this is justified

Why shouldn't we be intolerant

Others are intolerant of us, the Rohinga are innocent but are being persecuted buddists and non muslims like you are justifying their persecution


Why should muslims then be tolerant or heed calls to be tolerant


The justification of the persecution of the Rohinga Also justifies the annihilation of the Yazidis, Christians, hindus, conversions etc

You are a known terrorist-supporter. Whether rohingya problem exists or not, you support those atrocities. So let's not kid ourselves.

 

[hussain0216]

Rohingya rebellion in Western Burma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rape-Murder of a Buddhist girl by Muslims led to riots: Myanmar Ambassador | TwoCircles.net

Note that this has been happening for a long time.



Thailand also has a similar problem. The difference is that Thais, unlike Burmese, tolerate muslims and this is the result.

Suspected Muslim insurgents kill Buddhist teacher, set her on fire in southern Thailand | CTV News

Burnings and beheadings strike fear in south Thailand ucanews.com

There's even hardly any news about this.


You are a known terrorist-supporter. Whether rohingya problem exists or not, you support those atrocities. So let's not kid ourselves.

You are a known supporter of persecution of innocent muslim minorities

Why shouldn't i support the slaughter of Yazidis, conversions of xtians or burning of hindus when you can support the persecution of Rohinga that would make no sense


Southern Thailand is muslim land the people are indigenous it is just occupied by Thailand and how is a article quoting the bloody Burmese ambassador a legitimate source, next you will be quoting ISIS justifying the rape of Yazidis

 

[Azizam]

You are a known supporter of persecution of innocent muslim minorities

Why shouldn't i support the slaughter of Yazidis, conversions of xtians or burning of hindus when you can support the persecution of Rohinga that would make no sense


Southern Thailand is muslim land the people are indigenous it is just occupied by Thailand and how is a article quoting the bloody Burmese ambassador a legitimate source, next you will be quoting ISIS justifying the rape of Yazidis

I got nothing to do with middle east so yazidis are not my problem. There's no point of using that in this discussion. It's you who want to justify it so go on. What's funny is that, what's happening to Yazidis today happened to your ancestors. The name "HIndu Kush" means Hindu Killer that refers to how your ancestors who were enslaved, died while crossing that mountain range.

Yeah, the whole world is muslim land and we all should be killed for that. According to your logic, countries like Syria, Lebanon, Iraq etc. and even should not be muslim land either because they were invaded and people were forcefully converted. As I said, if Thais did one mistake, that was tolerating muslims. They could have simply used brute force and the problem would have been solved a long time.

 

[Adecypher]

Rohingya rebellion in Western Burma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rape-Murder of a Buddhist girl by Muslims led to riots: Myanmar Ambassador | TwoCircles.net

Note that this has been happening for a long time.



Thailand also has a similar problem. The difference is that Thais, unlike Burmese, tolerate muslims and this is the result.

Suspected Muslim insurgents kill Buddhist teacher, set her on fire in southern Thailand | CTV News

Burnings and beheadings strike fear in south Thailand ucanews.com

There's even hardly any news about this.

I have posted few links which depicts a contradictory narrative to what you have presented:

Myanmar Conflict: Rohingya Muslims Persecuted In Myanmar And Bangladesh

This link presents research by Engy Abdelkader:

http://law.uoregon.edu/org/oril/docs/15-1/Abdelkader.pdf

Preying on Rohingya (Very Sad )
http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/13/07/MYANMAR-ROHINGYAS.pdf
Burma Accused of ‘Crime Against Humanity’ Over Persecution of Rohingya

So do you disregard what all presented in the above links as figments of imagination...

 

[Azizam]

I have posted few links which depicts a contradictory narrative to what you have presented:

Myanmar Conflict: Rohingya Muslims Persecuted In Myanmar And Bangladesh

This link presents research by Engy Abdelkader:

http://law.uoregon.edu/org/oril/docs/15-1/Abdelkader.pdf

Preying on Rohingya (Very Sad )
http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/13/07/MYANMAR-ROHINGYAS.pdf
Burma Accused of ‘Crime Against Humanity’ Over Persecution of Rohingya

So do you disregard what all presented in the above links as figments of imagination...

I showed you the sources to prove that this issue goes far beyond the present time-scale but you only posted articles related to the modern period of time. I didn't say that that's imagination and not just rohingyas, the buddhists also suffered similarly but the popular-media won't mention anything about it because its easy to sell the idea of "minorities being persecuted" than presenting a balanced view.

 

[Adecypher]

I showed you the sources to prove that this issue goes far beyond the present time-scale but you only posted articles related to the modern period of time. I didn't say that that's imagination and not just rohingyas, the buddhists also suffered similarly but the popular-media won't mention anything about it because its easy to sell the idea of "minorities being persecuted" than presenting a balanced view.

So do you see this as a hopeless situation or any positives can be achieved in future; from your last few posts it seems you are pretty pessimist!

 

[me_itsme]

These are lies and excuses to justify the persecution of a poor minority

Your a hypocrite justifying these innocent peoples persecution at the hands of militant buddists why shouldn't muslims become ecen more intolerant of minorities when muslim minorities persecution is justified through lies



It is the true religion the will of God, when it is suppressed the faithful muslims will defend themselves

Militant buddists are persecuting innocent unarmed Rohinga
No schools
no hospitals
no citizenship
and state persecution


It is a human and muslim right to stand up against this brutality and oppression

True religion, will of god my @$$. No offence. No religion is true religion. Any ways why are Muslims oppressed or persecuted in the first place? Why do people from other religion jut hate Muslims? They cant hate them with out any reason.

 

[Azizam]

So do you see this as a hopeless situation or any positives can be achieved in future; from your last few posts it seems you are pretty pessimist!

Well, if both sides cooperate then I think the situation can be resolved and Burma was also in a period of isolation in the recent history but now, it's economy is growing. Problem was actually caused by inadequate policies under colonialism. Nepalese in Bhutan, Indian Tamils in Sri Lanka etc. are some of the problems that were caused by the same policies. So just like how other countries in the region resolved the problem, in the future this problem will be resolved too.

Bhutanese refugees - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia