Mongolian culture undermined by Korean cultural invasion

[INDIC]

India with its millenian old and rich civilisation is losing the cultural battle within its own border? Very surprising, indeed!

Our culture is still preserved, people just try some new fashion, this one famous Manipuri Dance.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Er.........something wrong to admire and adopt a certain part of foreign culture that is appealing?

The whole world adopted the Western culture!

I don't see the above any remote threat to Indian or Manipuri culture.

Nothing wrong to adopting foreign culture. But I understood that in that region Indian culture is rejected or banned, which is quite strange to me as I deem Indian culture to be richer and superior to Korean pop culture. The term Western is to general, because I don't see many people sing in French, German, Italian, Spanish or a Scandinavian song in China or India although they are all part of Western culture. Anyone yodeling or morris dancing here??

In the Vacuum, Korean Films and Dramas became popular in that region. This is just Temporary.

In Few Years, Indian Films would Erase the Korean Culture.

You are breaking Korean's heart!

Our culture is still preserved, people just try some new fashion, this one famous Manipuri Dance.

These are classical Manipur culture, what about contemporary culture? The Manipur people are not adopting classical Korean culture but rather a perversion of American culture which they claim to be original Korean.

 

[INDIC]

These are classical Manipur culture, what about contemporary culture? The Manipur people are not adopting classical Korean culture but rather a perversion of American culture which they claim to be original Korean.

I have seen some Manipuri women in my neighborhood, they all wore local dress, such craze are only there when a person is young. Soon, he/she is married he came back to Indian culture and values.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Nothing wrong to adopting foreign culture. But I understood that in that region Indian culture is rejected or banned, which is quite strange to me as I deem Indian culture to be richer and superior to Korean pop culture. The term Western is to general, because I don't see many people sing in French, German, Italian, Spanish or a Scandinavian song in China or India although they are all part of Western culture. Anyone yodeling or morris dancing here??

Well! technically, the bolded part is incorrect, as Manipuri culture is again Indian culture.

I have little idea how good K-pop is (not my type) , but only if it was good people there would have liked it.

 

[Korean]

I have been asking myself what is so Korean in Kpop? Their styling, make-up, choreography, rhythm, melody, instruments have nothing that reminds me of anything that derives from Korean culture. If the Kpop song is sang in English, French or German nobody would notice that it has a Korean origin.

Well, see for yourself.

Love Like This(Although written by Varsity Fabclub, it was released as a K-pop song by SS501 one year in advance and the K-pop version is the better known of two)

K-pop version by SS501

US version by Varsity Fanclub

Under My Skin(The Pan-Euro Version is released by the German singer Sarah Connor, the Pan-Asian Version is released by DBSK)

K-pop version by DBSK

German version by Sarah Connor

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Well, see for yourself.

Love Like This(Although written by Varsity Fabclub, it was released as a K-pop song by SS501 one year in advance and the K-pop version is the better known of two)

K-pop version by SS501

US version by Varsity Fanclub

Under My Skin(The Pan-Euro Version is released by the German singer Sarah Connor, the Pan-Asian Version is released by DBSK)

K-pop version by DBSK

German version by Sarah Connor

So? It just shows that Koreans have copied European and American music. The choreography, the melody, the rhythm, the fashion, etc. Nothing that can be traced back to Korean culture. They are absolutely interchangeable. None of them are uniquely Korean. Show me one thing from Kpop that has developed from classical Korean culture. All European and American pop music can be traced back to classical European culture.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Korean culture quite popular in North-East, especially in Manipur.

Not surprising.

Mother of God...even happening there?

Yes, K-culture is a very real phenomenon.

 

[Korean]

So? It just shows that Koreans have copied European and American music.

So you don't "get" it.

Korean music is highly "visual", the most visual form of modern music created to date; better looking performers, better dance moves, and better onstage customs. The K-Pop is actually closer to the musical business model than traditional music model. This is how Korean music was able to cross borders when the underlying language wasn't a universal language like English, because what they sell is the image, not the lyrics.

Anyhow, you won't see partial rights songs(Where the right to perform is sold in regions by the Songwriter) like "Under My Skin" and "Love Like This" nowadays, as European/American singers who bought into such rights got blooded by the Korean versions, as everyone remembers the Korean version but not the Euro/American versions thank to youtube. Likewise Korean record companies seek worlwide rights from European songwriters for new songs as they seek to expand into the Europe.

The choreography, the melody, the rhythm, the fashion, etc. Nothing that can be traced back to Korean culture.

The US and Euro based singers can't match the visual quality of Korean performances.

Show me one thing from Kpop that has developed from classical Korean culture. All European and American pop music can be traced back to classical European culture.

US and Euro pop music trace their looks to African music; jazz, rock, pop, and raps were all Black music and have nothing to do with classical Euro music of the 19th century.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

So you don't "get" it.

Korean music is highly "visual", the most visual form of modern music created to date; better looking performers, better dance moves, and better onstage customs. The K-Pop is actually closer to the musical business model than traditional music model. This is how Korean music was able to cross borders when the underlying language wasn't a universal language like English, because what they sell is the image, not the lyrics.

First of all, music are normally listened and not watched. If it comes to visual, Korea has so far not won one Oscar or many international reputed film awards. Music video is nota Korean invention either. Remember the song "Video killed the Radio Star"? You have yet to make a video that beats Madonna's "Vogue" or Micheal Jackson's "Thriller". Those videos make a uproar internationally. I couldn't care less how the singer looks like as long as he/she doesn't look like the hunchback of Notre Dame and has a great voice. Better onstage customs? LOL, High fashion is still a matter of Paris, Milan and London. Seoul is a nobody in that aspect. Musical is also not a Korean invention. So, what is Korean in Kpop aside the language and Korean performers?

Anyhow, you won't see partial rights songs(Where the right to perform is sold in regions by the Songwriter) like "Under My Skin" and "Love Like This" nowadays, as European/American singers who bought into such rights got blooded by the Korean versions, as everyone remembers the Korean version but not the Euro/American versions thank to youtube. Likewise Korean record companies seek worlwide rights from European songwriters for new songs as they seek to expand into the Europe.

I don't remember any Korean version. It's not even mentionned in any of our music mags.

The US and Euro based singers can't match the visual quality of Korean performances.

And yet, nobody knows them in Europe and the US. Actually, nobody cares.

US and Euro pop music trace their looks to African music; jazz, rock, pop, and raps were all Black music and have nothing to do with classical Euro music of the 19th century.

The rhythm definitely has African roots, but the melodic has European Chrisitian musical roots but went through many developments in the US as well as Europe with its many local traditions like Spanish pop with a heavy dose of Flamenco, Portugal with Fado, the French Chanson, etc. Modern pop is an amalgation of African and European musical traditions. In European pop one can see the national character of each country, while in Kpop it's 1:1 copy of current plastic pop, nothing that reminds me of Korean music. Kpop is a cheap copy of African rhythm and European melodic.

 

[Korean]

First of all, music are normally listened and not watched.

That was before the coming of MTV in the 80s.

Music video is nota Korean invention either.

Korean invention is pushing the eye-candy to the limit.

I don't remember any Korean version.

Then you don't remember the Euro version either.

And yet, nobody knows them in Europe and the US. Actually, nobody cares.

B2ST concert in Berlin in February 2012 before 10K audiences. While most K-pop concerts were held in Paris with a few London ones, B2ST for some odd reason held it in Berlin. For this reason most German fans had to go to Paris for concerts.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

That was before the coming of MTV in the 80s.

Who watches MTV, that is so 1980s. Music ist still mostly listened either on CD, mp3 player or on radio.

Korean invention is pushing the eye-candy to the limit.

Nothing uniquely Korean. Eye candy videos have been made everywhere since ages.

Then you don't remember the Euro version either.

No, I don't. The music style is just to shallow.

B2ST concert in Berlin in February 2012 before 10K audiences. While most K-pop concerts were held in Paris with a few London ones, B2ST for some odd reason held it in Berlin. For this reason most German fans had to go to Paris for concerts.

LOL KiKa (Kinder Kanal = Kid Channel). In the video it said there were 3000 audiences and most of them teenies. None of their songs are played in the mainstream radios = fringe music. You can find 3000 people paying to watch the weirdest music styles in Germany.

 

[asianamerican]

Be glad that Asian are influenced by other Asian countries. At least, they have some physical resemblance, so their kids won't have to have bent up self-hatred from trash white countries.

HOllywood constantly make fun of Asian and promote white supremacism and standard of beauty that destroy Asian children mindset.

I rather be influence by Korean than white racist trash from Hollywood.

 

[Korean]

「ＢＩＧＢＡＮＧ」のコンサートでダフ屋　容疑の男２人逮捕　大宮署 - MSN産経ニュース

Saitama police arrested two concert ticket gougers affiliated with the Yakuza group Yamaguchi Gumi, who were trying to resell 9,500 Yen concert tickets of Korean idol group Big Bang for 70,000 Yen at the Saitama Super Arena to undercover officers.

Japanese rightwingers are angry that 1. even Yakuzas are getting into K-pop ticket gouging business. 2. The black market ticket price is whopping 70,000 Yen, $890 for a seat. Not even the likes of AKB48s sell with a mark-up that high, less than 40,000 Yen at best.

Latest K-Pop Invasion: The Fans - Korea Real Time - WSJ

Latest K-Pop Invasion: The Fans

It’s no secret that K-pop is huge in Japan, with fans often traveling to South Korea to see live shows and other K-Pop-themed events.

The latest group tour from Japan takes things to another level, however.

More than 7,000 Japanese fans of boy-band JYJ will fly to Seoul later this month in the biggest-ever tour package for overseas K-pop fans.

The event, 2012 JYJ Membership Week, will take place for four days from June 28. Fans will take part in various band-themed activities, including a virtual meeting with a holographic version of the 3-member group. They’ll also have a chance to actually meet the real thing during the last two days.

A total of 7,024 of the 15,000 Japanese fans who pay an annual fan club membership fee of around 50,000 won, or $43, were invited to attend via a lucky draw. C-Jes Entertainment, the group’s management company, says it spent 3.7 billion won, or $3.2 million, for the event, including covering accommodation and airfares.

To house the fans, the company booked 3,500 hotel rooms and prepared 250 buses to ferry the fans to the event venue in southern Seoul. The fans will fly in on 116 flights from 14 Japanese airports.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Outer Mongolian culture has been pretty much been contaminated by the Soviet invasion any ways. No one there could even write in the Mongolian script.