Mohsin dawar declared open rebellion against the state in new video

[maximuswarrior]

this retard is just making it easy for us to justify bringing the hammer on his lot which would be soon

We should have done it ages ago. No country on this planet allows terrorist groups to gather in public space to hold mass rallies and challange the writ of the state. This has gone too far. Yes, they have external support, but we have the institutions. Our state gets blackmailed by external threats and cannot uphold the rule of law. This needs to change very swiftly.

 

[criticalerror]

Crazy loony bastards live in their little fantasy world.

I am still very surprised how the state is tolerating these filthy animals. We take care of BLA, but don't touch PTM scum. They are allowed to propagate hate against the state and the nation in their venomous rallies. There is something wrong here.

Where is Imran Khan and where are armed forces? Is this some sort of a joke? With America we always used to have some sort of excuse that they are superior blah blah. What excuse do we have here? Why aren't we eliminating this scum from our soil?

They are being dealt with behind closed doors. You don’t broadcast everything that is being done against PTM. Ali Wazir was presented before an Anti-Terrorism court and remanded. The other b!tch is on the run.

As for the armed forces, they are wanting to avoid it looking like the State cracking down on Pushtoon ethnicity. Which is exactly what PTM want to make it a pan-Pushtoon issue. Giving them prime time is also detrimental.

If we are discussing it in forums here, you can bet it is already discussed by the security apparatus which has more ground information then us. They are dealing with it cautiously because it can get out hand. Currently it is only localized to Waziristan. You want it to become a FATA issue?

 

[ghazi52]

PTM is same as MQM, must be end like MQM.

 

[maximuswarrior]

They are being dealt with behind closed doors. You don’t broadcast everything that is being done against PTM. Ali Wazir was presented before an Anti-Terrorism court and remanded. The other b!tch is on the run.

As for the armed forces, they are wanting to avoid it looking like the State cracking down on Pushtoon ethnicity. Which is exactly what PTM want to make it a pan-Pushtoon issue. Giving them prime time is also detrimental.

If we are discussing it in forums here, you can bet it is already discussed by the security apparatus which has more ground information then us. They are dealing with it cautiously because it can get out hand. Currently it is only localized to Waziristan. You want it to become a FATA issue?

This is BS. We need to hunt them down and eliminate them. No more diplomacy. They shot at armed forces and challange the writ of the state. They do it brazenly. Why should we do it behind closed doors. We know who their backers are. We need to crush them head on. No one is bigger than the rule of law and the state. If you challange the writ of the state there are severe consequences.

There should be no compromise on national security. FATA is fine now. If PTM was capable of engineering chaos in FATA they would have done it long. They are not capable because their rotten base consists of Afghan refugees and the likes of ANP scum. The absolute vast majority of Pakistanis are opposed against PTM. That includes Pakistani Pashtun like myself.

 

[Crusher]

Still they want to be a part of Afghanistan
and proudly say we are Afghan
no man with sound mind would like to be associated with a country like Afghanistan

“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.”
--Albert Einstein

 

[criticalerror]

This is BS. We need to hunt them down ans eliminate them. They shot at armed forces and challange the writ of the state. They do it brazenly. Why should we do it behind closed doors. We know who their backers are. We need to crush them head on. No one is bigger than the rule of law and the state. If you challange the writ of the state there are severe consequences.

There should be no compromise on national security. FATA is fine now. If PTM was capable of engineering chaos in FAtA they would have done it long. They are not capable because their rotten base consists of Afghan refugees and the likes of ANP scum.

I am glad our security apparatus is not as short sighted as many of the people on this forum. The same people also saying we should have killed Bipin on 27th Feb.

Once they shot at the security apparatus, they cracked down on them. Had they cracked down on these idiots beforehand, the other parties that are waiting for a reason would have joined the chorus and brayed “State Brutality “. It would quickly get out of hand.

FATA is fine because of the approach of the very same army you are calling out. The chaos spiralling out of control would have nothing to do with PTM had the state been heavy handed. You can’t look at PTM and BLA the same way because BLA is an armed insurgency and PTM is a purported peaceful movement.

 

[maximuswarrior]

I am glad our security apparatus is not as short sighted as many of the people on this forum. The same people also saying we should have killed Bipin on 27th Feb.

Once they shot at the security apparatus, they cracked down on them. Had they cracked down on these idiots beforehand, the other parties that are waiting for a reason would have joined the chorus and brayed “State Brutality “. It would quickly get out of hand.

FATA is fine because of the approach of the very same army you are calling out. The chaos spiralling out of control would have nothing to do with PTM had the state been heavy handed. You can’t look at PTM and BLA the same way because BLA is an armed insurgency and PTM is a purported peaceful movement.

This is where our problem lies and this also explains the sorry state of affairs. We always become hostage to various sensitivities.

This cannot go on any longer. Especially when dealing with internal matters.

PTM is no different than any other separatist group which receives funding from external forces. They didn't even exist until Indian and Western media propagated their recent existence. We know who these scum are. These are the same filthy fvckers who were opposed to the creation of Pakistan. They live among us and wear red hats as a sign of defiance against the state.

There is only one solution here and that is to round them up and lock them up. Better would be to exterminate them since they also resort to violence.

Time has come to take matters into our own hands. If not, this nation will be dragged into another lengthy proxy war on its turf. Confronting the enemy is the solution. Waiting it out is not a strategy.

The state has to be crystal clear about the threat posed by a renegade group like PTM. The silky gloves need to come off now.

 

[Armchair]

I agree that this was and is the right time to act against PTM - once they made a mistake, rather than beforehand. The other thing to remember in dealing with situations like this - the Machiavellian rule that you can do anything you like as long as you don't touch a people's honor, livelihood and property.

 

[ali_raza]

He has defected to Afghanistan it seems.

why couldn’t we arrest him

 

[Zee-shaun]

Declare him a terrorist and take him out with surgical strike in Afghamistan.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Drugs gun culture lawlessness crimes mens society fata was mini afghanistan they are missing it now

Imran shab yehi baat hai,wo purani ayeshiya chiyeh in ko.

 

[criticalerror]

This is where our problem lies and this also explains the sorry state of affairs. We always become hostage to various sensitivities.

This cannot go on any longer. Especially when dealing with internal matters.

PTM is no different than any other separatist group which receives funding from external forces. They didn't even exist until Indian and Western media propagated their recent existence. We know who these scum are. These are the same filthy fvckers who were opposed to the creation of Pakistan. They live among us and wear red hats as a sign of defiance against the state.

There is only one solution here and that is to round them up and lock them up. Better would be to exterminate them since they also resort to violence.

Time has come to take matters into our own hands. If not, this nation will be dragged into another lengthy proxy war on its turf.

You automatically become hostage when half your countrymen are anti-army in one way or the other. Just check some of the posts on this very forum.

I am pretty sure the security establishment are more aware of the network and operation of PTM then us sitting in our homes. At that level you cannot shoot first and ask questions later. Though that is what we all want. Me included. But i know that is not the way to go with these scum. You don’t make them martyrs and give their so called rights movement any validation. That is what is being avoided here.

I don’t disagree with your proposition because my blood boils at this scum defaming my ethnicity, which has always been for Pakistan, through their actions . ANP and the like were so thoroughly rejected that there is hardly any sitting MP of worth from these parties. There influence is well and truly annihilated. Same will be the case with PTM , InshaAllah.

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistan needs to make sure instead of Afghan Taliban sharing power in Afghanistan now takes over Afghanistan. We need to use them to eliminate them.

 

[maximuswarrior]

He has defected to Afghanistan it seems.

That is good news. You know what happens to an enemy that defects to Afghanistan.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Pakistan needs to make sure instead of Afghan Taliban sharing power in Afghanistan now takes over Afghanistan. We need to use them to eliminate them.

They are same as PTM.