Modi's Pakistan policy is confused

[sharma1111]

He is confused himself and you guys talk about policy.

Pak is difficult country to deal with.

Confusion is good tool for us

 

[Moonlight]

Pak is difficult country to deal with.

Confusion is good tool for us

At least you guys admit it. We re sharp enough to understand your polices and now you have to be confused to protect your inside news?

 

[plutonium96]

This sudden change of heart is only to gain trade route to afg. Notnin else i suppose

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Keep this crap with you bro. You got all flamed and flared up like a kind when i asked if you were that naive ( a quite positive and benign word) for the illogical conclusion you reached from very directly and clear words in the video....I had used a lot restraint but you went overboard called me stupid while a reasonable person would be thankful for pointing out such glaring mistake that would make his a total fool otherwise.

yea naive/gullible and whether i am too sleepy or too high..I appreciate your this kind of retrain and kindness ..You are saying that modi openly admitting in video that he is killer then he should be in jail by admitting it openly on tv now please stop this offtopic illogical debate and move on. Thsi debate is not about role of modi in gujraat

well,this nautanki will continue forever.

But you guys voted for him because of his tough stance against Pakistan? No ?

 

[war&peace]

yea naive/gullible and whether i am too sleepy or too high..I appreciate your this kind of retrain and kindness ..You are saying that modi openly admitting in video that he is killer then he should be in jail by admitting it openly on tv now please stop this offtopic illogical debate and move on. Thsi debate is not about role of modi in gujraat

Okay buddy... you win....i am not in the mood to argue. Peace

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Okay buddy... you win....i am not in the mood to argue. Peace

there was no competition at all. we are brothers whether we agree or disagree. all i said was that it was unnecessary for you to use these personal attacks just because i did show some disagreement. You could have said same thing without calling me naive, are high on drug etc etc but an way forget it. Peace

 

[deckingraj]

But you guys voted for him because of his tough stance against Pakistan? No ?

Did you vote for Nawaz because he was talking about peace with India?? and then you were calling others naive ..... Now get few facts and put them in your head for good...Apart from Northern India Pakistan is not even a topic leave alone election agenda....Second and most important fact - people vote for party that they believe is development oriented......Indian electorate has matured enough and have come a long way...unlike Pakistan which is in toddler years of enjoying democracy....even after this i can vouch for this fact that an ordinary Pakistani won't even think of India let alone act on it while voting for any election....

 

[pakdefender]

#56inch didn't quite work out it seems

Also , looks like he didn't get the international support that he was hoping for

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Did you vote for Nawaz because he was talking about peace with India?? and then you were calling others naive ..... Now get few facts and put them in your head for good...Apart from Northern India Pakistan is not even a topic leave alone election agenda....Second and most important fact - people vote for party that they believe is development oriented......Indian electorate has matured enough and have come a long way...unlike Pakistan which is in toddler years of enjoying democracy....even after this i can vouch for this fact that an ordinary Pakistani won't even think of India let alone act on it while voting for any election....

Did you watched the video and criticism of Modi to congress for being softer to Pakistan? How BJP differ to congress when it come to policies or peace talk towards Pakistan? I did not voted for nawaz but anti-India rhetoric was not part of election campaign of nawaz unlike BJB leaders ?
Pakistan ko uss ki basha main jawab dena chaya instead of writing love letter

aur woo basha peace talk hai?

Prepare the bhakts: PM Modi must use Pak policy to moderate BJP

• Sushil Aaron, Hindustan Times, New Delhi
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• Updated: Dec 14, 2015 09:37 IST

Pakistan has just had a brilliant week in diplomacy. After seeing high-level talks called off twice over differences about interacting with Kashmiri separatists, New Delhi got back to the negotiating table — via NSA talks in Bangkok followed by the visit of external affairs minister Sushma Swaraj to Islamabad. India agreed to mention ‘Jammu and Kashmir’ in two joint statements and both countries are back to a full scope ‘comprehensive bilateral dialogue’. There is no greater dose of dopamine for Islamabad in foreign affairs than moments of symbolic parity with India. It got plenty of that last week and even test-fired a nuclear-capable missile that can reach far-flung Indian cities like Chennai, to prove the point — and celebrate.

India is, meanwhile, wondering about Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s turnaround. Few really know, but several theories are circulating. Some say he was chastened by the defeat in Bihar; he realises that the anti-Pakistan card is not working domestically and hence it is time to be seen as more constructive, internationally. He figured he cannot avoid Pakistan next year with the T20 World Cup in India and the Saarc summit in Islamabad and decided to have another go at dialogue. Some suggest that the breakdown was owing to diplomatic cock-ups in the first place; Modi himself was always keen on good ties and now is a good time to restart. Others attribute to his friend Barack Obama, who is concerned that India-Pakistan tensions will complicate the US’ endgame in Afghanistan. Modi may be alert to the implications of closer China-Pakistan relations as Beijing tries to remake geography through grand infrastructure projects.

It is possible that Modi was motivated by all these; it does not matter why now — he has created diplomatic facts that he needs to live with, which create both problems and opportunities. The one big obstacle he has is that there is not a single big issue that he can transact quickly with Pakistan. Neither side sees eye to eye on terrorism; Islamabad wants a deal on Siachen, which New Delhi demurs about and the BJP is not interested in the four-point formula on Kashmir which was discussed during the UPA years — while enhanced trade will take time to materialise.

There is, thus, the risk of repeating the UPA’s spectacle of conducting frequent talks that do not yield satisfying outcomes. Modi will find himself caught between the need to participate in a process to burnish his credentials internationally while being prevented domestically from achieving big outcomes.

One way out is for him configure dialogue with Pakistan in his own mind not as an end in itself but as a project to moderate the BJP internally, which is critical if he is serious about being a moderniser and a statesman. He has already taken the first stab at that by announcing dialogue suddenly. His hardline Hindu nationalist followers on social media and hot-headed TV news anchors — who have been building up anti-Pakistan sentiment in India and making the PM risk-averse so far — do not quite know how to react at the moment. The idea now should be to sustain the stupor of his bhakts and socialise them to the imperatives of statecraft through an active India-Pakistan process.

This will help Modi domestically — if he so wishes — as he has struggled to publicly take on his Sangh parivar allies as they stoke anti-minority sentiment, target liberals and pursue aggressive anti-beef campaigns. Anti-Pakistan discourse in the public sphere is often generated with Indian Muslims in mind to stigmatize them in society. Sustained dialogue with Pakistan can help address this as it starves the bhakts a bit of the oxygen that strained ties offered them so far. The bhakts can now pursue an anti-Muslim agenda only with the full knowledge that it embarrasses the PM they admire. A sustained dialogue thus enforces restraint within the Hindu nationalist firmament without the PM having to attack his own cohort (or seem like distancing himself from them).

Of course, political outcomes are never so neat. Public opinion is fickle, attitudes hardened over time do not dissolve easily. Opportunistic criticism from the Congress or inadequate outcomes will test the patience of Modi and his supporters. Modi will need to either have a robust pro-dialogue narrative or generate events that create one subliminally. He needs to get the liberals on his side on Pakistan who are otherwise making life difficult for him by ‘spoiling’ his image abroad. One way is to enhance trade, play cricket, push people-to-people ties and enable more exchange visits among the youth, artists and the policy community. Both countries must urgently aim to acquaint their societies with the other side to counter xenophobia. Allowing more journalists to be posted as correspondents will be a useful start.

These may not be enough. Modi needs to focus public minds on the prospect of resolving a big issue. Paying attention to Kashmir will be beneficial. Political dialogue with separatists is off the table, but he can do more to ease State pressure on Kashmiri youth and dissenting political activity, and nudge the army on giving up land and draconian security legislation. These can help create the conditions for a future deal with Pakistan.

Historically, terrorist attacks have happened when bilateral ties are on the upswing. Modi’s primary aim is to use the dialogue with Pakistan to contain the fallout from the next attack, so India can stay focused on bigger economic goals and strategic threats. His ability to achieve that is, in part, determined by the domestic climate he nurtures. He has taken the tough decision of starting dialogue and should stick with it despite challenges ahead.

Prepare the bhakts: PM Modi must use Pak policy to moderate BJP | analysis | Hindustan Times

 

[deckingraj]

did you watched the video and criticism of Modi to congress for being softer to Pakistan? How BJP differ to congress when it come to policies or peace talk towards Pakistan? I did not voted for nawaz but anti-India rhetoric was not part of election campaign of nawaz unlike BJB leaders ?
Pakistan ko uss ki basha main jawab dena chaya instaed of writing love letter

aur woo basha peace talk hai?

First bold part has nothing to do with why India voted for Modi....As far as second bold part is concerned then Foreign policy is something which doesn't change with changing regimes...and that is a good thing.....

i was just responding to your conclusion that India voted for Modi because he said he will be hard with Pakistan....this is just not true...An average Indian/Pakistani doesn't give two hoots about the other side....PDF is a different ball game

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Pakistan and India relations can be summed in one sentence: Everything Changes and Yet Everything Remains the Same !! I will not see any improvement in the relations with the extremists BJP and Shiv Sena creating daily problems. I am waiting for a false flag operation by India to get back to it's anti-Pakistan tirades to keep RSS and SS happy.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

First bold part has nothing to do with why India voted for Modi....As far as second bold part is concerned then Foreign policy is something which doesn't change with changing regimes...and that is a good thing.....

i was just responding to your conclusion that India voted for Modi because he said he will be hard with Pakistan....this is just not true...An average Indian/Pakistani doesn't give two hoots about the other side....PDF is a different ball game

You cannot speak on behalf of all Indians and why they voted for BJP and yea you have media and peopel who are obsessed with Pakistan so again you are judging everyone based on how you view Pakistan/Pakistani

Bihar BJP leader, Giriraj Singh, who is also the party’s candidate from Nawada said. “Those who want to stop Modi will soon have no place in India … because their place will be in Pakistan,” Singh boomed during a rally on April 18, 2014.

BJP manifesto described Kashmir as a “non-negotiable issue” and promised to get tougher with arch rival Pakistan.

 

[pakdefender]

modi is heading towards epic fail , he went around the globe strutting around brand india and Pakistan bashing , got no real takers , coming to his senses perahps

 

[deckingraj]

You cannot speak on behalf of all Indians and why they voted for BJP and yea you have media and peopel who are obsessed with Pakistan so again you are judging everyone based on how you view Pakistan/Pakistani

Bihar BJP leader, Giriraj Singh, who is also the party’s candidate from Nawada said. “Those who want to stop Modi will soon have no place in India … because their place will be in Pakistan,” Singh boomed during a rally on April 18, 2014.

BJP manifesto described Kashmir as a “non-negotiable issue” and promised to get tougher with arch rival Pakistan.

first bold part is very Interesting logic....I can't speak on behalf of Indians but you can?? Look your argument fell right there...no?? Not sure what made you think that average Indian give two hoots about what Giriraj said?? Now does an average Pakistani thinks/act like your Mr. lal topi?? Keep in mind BJP is not a new party that has come out of the blue...try and differentiate between election rhetoric and foreign policy....

b/w there is not a single party in India which says Kashmir is a negotiable issue....All the wars including Siachen but Kargil were fought under congress rule, no?? You guys are making as if BJP was ruling India since Independence...No matter what party is in power we have a one pointer stand on Kashmir...it is an integral part of India. Period!!...

As far as BJP/Modi getting tough on Pakistan then keep it as a new normal....this is what you are going to see irrespective of who is in power....This is what Rahul Gandhi said way back in 2013
We are giving too much importance to Pakistan: Rahul

And it is not tough to crack it why....With ever growing economic muscle India is going to get more and more tough...sorry but this is the reality of world...Look how china is getting more and more aggressive these days.... Vajpayee and MMS gave Pakistan a golden 15 years time period...however Kargil, Parliament attack, series of bombs in every nook and corner of India and finally 26/11 took its toll....Pakistan lost the plot ....all the new breed(be it Modi) or Rahul Gandhi or for that matter anybody won't even budge what Vajpayee or MMS were doing and as far as i know they were not budging much either....

modi is heading towards epic fail , he went around the globe strutting around brand india and Pakistan bashing , got no real takers , coming to his senses perahps

That can be one way of looking at it...the other way would be he is shaping India's foreign policy and taking it to new heights...There is a saying don't count chickens before they hatch...there are always give and takes...and we don't know the full story yet...so wait and watch....

 

[GR!FF!N]

But you guys voted for him because of his tough stance against Pakistan? No ?

The nautanki is "Indo-Pak Peace talk",and he is tough enough.And nautanki in the name of "Indo-Pak Peace talk" is special privileges for each and every PM.