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Modi's 'Mad Dog Posture' - Credible threat or a populist farce?

Why this paranoia about Modi in the neighborhood. India has changed not that much in past few months since he came into power, am sure India will, in near future.
Modi is just putting down what India has been capable of, long time ago.
 
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Why this paranoia about Modi in the neighborhood. India has changed not that much in past few months since he came into power, am sure India will, in near future.
Modi is just putting down what India has been capable of, long time ago.

Oh don't get serious; I understand my brethren's witty sense of humour. They just ignite the spark to watch real 'Bollywood movies' and laugh at the monkey circus while laying back on armchair with popcorn and crisp :coffee::lol:
 
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3) Because they stuck with a leader like Nawaz????
Like when we were stuck with MMS for a decade?? :P

Jeez! It was frustrating to see him keep mum and behave as if nothing had happened.
Its because our neighbours got used to MMS's silence that now they find MODI too loud.
 
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Like when we were stuck with MMS for a decade?? :P

Jeez! It was frustrating to see him keep mum and behave as if nothing had happened.
Its because our neighbours got used to MMS's silence that now they find MODI too loud.

The way people are trying hard to portray him as a mad dog is laughable........ All that Modi has done is, Asked his armed forces to reply in Kind when provoked.........A Mad dog only can take such stand!!!!!!
 
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the next thing you'll know is that those who can't even have a palmful of boiled rice and thin dal too would pick up their unwashed dhotis and get high on jingoism.
How many poor starving Pakistanis can even afford a 'palmful' of boiled rice and thin dal too? Let's see...

ISLAMABAD: If $2 is considered to be the minimum daily wage, then more than half of the country lives below the poverty line, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar said on Monday as he unveiled the Pakistan Economic Survey for 2013-14.

60.19pc of Pakistan's population falls below the poverty line.

Over half of Pakistan lives under poverty line: Dar - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
So, before shooting your mouth, I suggest you look inward at your own predicament! But yes, Bhutto did mention that Pakistanis will eat grass in order to fund your nuclear program. So you guys are pretty used to it!

And needless to say, Indians don't eat grass! :P

And by the way, you got a 'positive' rating for this flame thread of yours? :woot: Carry on Munna Bhai! You also deserve the Lambada Literary Award for this tripe!!
 
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How should Pakistan calculate Modi's 'Mad Dog Posture' ?

As we're at it, he's trying to fan jingoism among his electorate during polls. Bashing Pakistan with 'trigger diplomacy' has worked historically well. Just start a flame war accusing Pakistan of imaginary border violations and supporting Kashmiris...the next thing you'll know is that those who can't even have a palmful of boiled rice and thin dal too would pick up their unwashed dhotis and get high on jingoism.

That is all understood. He is a mass murderer who's comfy with a bloodbath, he is an Islamophobic nutbag and a product of Hindutva ideology which seeks a mythical kingdom he plans to rule while riding a cow.

On the other hand are his real world limitations. He runs the only country in the world geographically locked between two nuclear armed enemies which are allied to each other. A weakening economy, a limit on the use of conventional military force and an almost complete string of pearls.

The question is...if Modi's policy towards Pakistan is going to earn him any more cookies than jingoistic hoo ha and populist votes?

If he commits aggression against Pakistan, either covertly or overtly...what should be our response to restrain him?

What does this mean for China and its interests in Pakistan and the region?

Thoughts?

Funny that all India does, is to move to a Offesive Defence and by the looks of it every shalwar (unisex) in Pakistan is bunching up! Or may be the dark vegetarian EID appetizers are not agreeing with the palates of the fine specimen of mankind :)

And then starts the age old habit of using a surname to protect oneself. This time the Dulha seems to be Chinese.

Look, the Chinese know very well that their next war will be their last war. So do not really expect the Chinese to do much except donating their Dongs to pakistan. Of course they will fight India, but they will do it till the last pakistani alive.

So regarding the response that you are talking about, seemingly the answer does not lie at UN or at P5 or in the embassies of all and sundry including uganda.

How about showing that bright pakistani act of about turn and claim victory becuase "we survived" ? That's just about the only response which - I quote Musharraff - will leave the honor and dignity intact...... for the pakistani hilaale sitaras.
 
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Tell me, what is the foundation of the Indian Union? Answer: "Unity in Diversity".
Now what better way to break that foundation, than to have Indians elect a mass murderer of Muslims to be their leader? That is what you call breaking the foundations.
Sir, as I have seen you posting repeatedly this very assumption of yours that Indian Muslims after gaining a considerable numerical superiority becoming a formidable political unity will be a challenge to Indian union, with due respect I must say that there is no firm ground of reasoning below this flamboyant belief.

India as a union, faced the utmost challenge when it was born or rather power was transferred to the Indians from HMG in 1947. There were still oddly 600 princely states remaining untouched and out of either of the dominions, both India and Pakistan. Some big states (as big as any considerably big European state) like Hyderabad or State of Jammu and Kashmir, were considering to remain Independent, while some like Junagadh, had already signed the instrument of accession paper in favour of Pakistan. India’s North East was and as it still is faintly attached to the main land via a narrow strip of land as East Pakistan virtually could cut it off from Indian union if it intended to.

India was, after the partition a boiling pot of thousands of languages, hundreds of religions, castes and creeds fighting each other for political rights or basic human needs like foods, shelters or drinking water especially in the areas like Punjab and Bengal where blood bath were taken place over partition and religious grounds for nearly three/four years before partition.

A top secret appreciation, prepared by the Commonwealth Relation Office, would suffice the insight of British apprehension about India, quite in the line with your present assertion. It says,

“…financially, industrially and from the point of view of manpower and general material resources India was stronger than Pakistan. But that India had no real background (read Islam as in the case of Pakistan) on which to build and unite a Nation, there being no real affinity between the North and South, the existence of disruptive elements like the Sikhs and the likelihood of Communists, with their own agenda, growing in numbers and influence.”

Now, as you can see, time (or we, Indians) has proved the British, perhaps the most pragmatic race in the West wrong. India as a cohesive force with vast plurality survived its challenges and solved some enigmas came out from socio-religious experiments of the 40’s. Not denying the fact that ultra right wing nationalism is a threat to India’s social unity. A plenty of recent remarks from noted Indian politicians have been utterly unfortunate and honestly it could not have been worse. But there is no reason to believe that India will lose its neatly bound unity once any religious group be it Sikh or Muslims gain economic or political clout; quite contrarily it could add more durability to Indian unity in spite of monumental heterogeneity if we are able to bring them under more social/economic progress.

Authors of India’s future in England had disregarded the secular factors that helped to unite India as a cultural entity and emphasized on religion as a necessary factor to hold a country together; As we have seen how failed their apprehensions were, I request kindly do not fall under the illusion again in this moment when world affairs suggest complete different picture.
 
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Why does people across the boarder hate Modi???????

1) Because he is presumed to be a Anti Muslim?
2) Because He is a strong leader ?
3) Because they stuck with a leader like Nawaz????
Not something being outside was expecting. Thought he will bring some business revolution in the region. But he totally heading in wrong direction.. Where a international media felt cold gesture from Modi, when Chinese premier appeared in India. More sounds about border issues were heard rather some new BIG business deals.
I personally feel, he has more inclination to resolve border issues with power. And we all know what M Singh started were heading in right direction, building CBMs.
 
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Not something being outside was expecting. Thought he will bring some business revolution in the region. But he totally heading in wrong direction.. Where a international media felt cold gesture from Modi, when Chinese premier appeared in India. More sounds about border issues were heard rather some new BIG business deals.
I personally feel, he has more inclination to resolve border issues with power. And we all know what M Singh started were heading in right direction, building CBMs.

Well from the early signals what i understand is, His priority is correcting the internal issues, and streamlining the government..... there is lot of deterioration when it comes to way of operation of Govt during UPA regime....He got lot to do internally than on international level.....
 
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I think improved Sino-Pakistani cooperation is one vital aspect of this puzzle. I believe 1962 was a huge wasted opportunity (due to the pro-US policies of Ayub Khan), but was certainly not the last opportunity.

Unfortunately most of that coordination is happening behind closed doors, so can't be a part of our discussion.

Modi is going to make the same mistake that Nehru did, of overstretching himself. The question is, when Modi inevitably makes that one big mistake (Forward policy 2.0), will we be there to catch him? And how will we deal with the aftermath.



Modi's tendencies are directed at Indian Muslims, he has no such leverage over Chinese or Pakistani citizens, and both countries are very much able to pay him back in kind. As we have seen during the last Pakistan-India border incident over the LOC, with Modi declaring "We taught them a lesson"... only for artillery fire to resume the next day. :lol:

In fact we have seen Modi fall flat on his face (what we call 仆街 in Cantonese) twice already. First with the so-called "Chinese incursion" during Xi Jinping's visit to India, which India tried to pass off as some disconnect between the CPC and the PLA, which any Chinese person knows is pure BS. Xi Jinping has consolidated his power base in the CPC and the PLA to an extent that has not been seen in the last few decades, just check for the name Xu Caihou to see an example.

The second was with his claim to have "taught a lesson" to Pakistan, only to have firing resume the next day. He is stretching the limits of his capabilities, and when he finds out that returning India to 8%+ growth is impossible, he will have to find another way to consolidate his political capital. This could turn into a Hitler-like (or Modi-like) situation, and we know how that turned out.

Luckily for us, China and Pakistan combined are vastly more powerful than India, by multiple times. Modi's foolishness could turn into a huge opportunity to solve the border issue, once and for all.

War is of course the worst case scenario, but Indian policy may leave us with no choice, like it did with the Forward Policy. And we must be prepared for a repeat of the same.

I could assume the the below points for the highligted comments
1) By calling him Hitler you are behaving like a internet troll hired by the congress party of india
2) By calling him Hitler are you trying to score some brownie points to your dear paksitani friends
3) And y the hell he would kill a chinese muslim or for that matter a chinese citizen when your CPC is doing the job very well
4) And modi never tried to pass the border incident like the MMS he moved 1000's of troops to face-off the chinese and destroyed the road built by you guys
5) And for not returing to 8% growth check what the IMF has to say for next year
IMF, World Bank forecast 6.4% growth for India in 2015 - The Times of India
so we are going to have that 8% growth very soon

And the most important point is Indian voters are not going to vote on the basis of war with pakistan we simply need growth and development . hence dont share the pakistani's view here
 
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On topic Modi after swearing in was adopting magnanimity as Pakistan requests from a bigger neighbour. But then someone reminded him that Pakistanis had ruled us for 1K years. Now Pakistan should be magnanimous and give back Azad Kashmir.
 
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Modi was, is and will remain a mad dog, but not so mad that he doesn't know not to mess with us.
unfortunately all the wars started by Pakistanis... as far as i seen ... Pakistanis lives in delusional world.. and self declared saints.... when you guys attack us it was your bravery... but when Modi took strong stand... some people crying up and down... lol
 
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I think improved Sino-Pakistani cooperation is one vital aspect of this puzzle. I believe 1962 was a huge wasted opportunity (due to the pro-US policies of Ayub Khan), but was certainly not the last opportunity.

Unfortunately most of that coordination is happening behind closed doors, so can't be a part of our discussion.

Modi is going to make the same mistake that Nehru did, of overstretching himself. The question is, when Modi inevitably makes that one big mistake (Forward policy 2.0), will we be there to catch him? And how will we deal with the aftermath.



Modi's tendencies are directed at Indian Muslims, he has no such leverage over Chinese or Pakistani citizens, and both countries are very much able to pay him back in kind. As we have seen during the last Pakistan-India border incident over the LOC, with Modi declaring "We taught them a lesson"... only for artillery fire to resume the next day. :lol:

In fact we have seen Modi fall flat on his face (what we call 仆街 in Cantonese) twice already. First with the so-called "Chinese incursion" during Xi Jinping's visit to India, which India tried to pass off as some disconnect between the CPC and the PLA, which any Chinese person knows is pure BS. Xi Jinping has consolidated his power base in the CPC and the PLA to an extent that has not been seen in the last few decades, just check for the name Xu Caihou to see an example.

The second was with his claim to have "taught a lesson" to Pakistan, only to have firing resume the next day. He is stretching the limits of his capabilities, and when he finds out that returning India to 8%+ growth is impossible, he will have to find another way to consolidate his political capital. This could turn into a Hitler-like (or Modi-like) situation, and we know how that turned out.

Luckily for us, China and Pakistan combined are vastly more powerful than India, by multiple times. Modi's foolishness could turn into a huge opportunity to solve the border issue, once and for all.

War is of course the worst case scenario, but Indian policy may leave us with no choice, like it did with the Forward Policy. And we must be prepared for a repeat of the same.


Honestly think tank.You are terribly mistaken when you compared Narendra Modi with Jawaharlal Nehru.Both are exactly opposite characters and most striking irony is that
he ascended to the PM post because of deficincies of Nehru s Congress.Nehru was a godd administrator and like any other leaders he also did some mistake whenhe ordered Army to march without logistics,descent weapons and back up.
But this man Modi he always mean action. Look at his modus operandi .Talk less work more.Forget about his sub ordinates in Cabinet.That man appointed a retired Army COAS in NE because of some obvious reason.He appointed
a reputed Spy Master as NSA.Nehru sent 12000 mens to resis 80000 PLA mens.
But our beloved PM sent 1500 soldiers to counter 1000 PLA mens.You can say ahatever you want.But World is far wider than ths PDF .We dont see any favourable words from China when we returned multiple times reply for violationin LoC.

You are again mistaken if you count Pakistan for any eventuality.West still wield commendable influence in elites in Pakistan.

And we elected our new PM not for the demands of the neighbours .We elected him for uncomprising stands in our national interest .And he would do what he need to do and what he has to do.
I know his Siachen visit made a lot of irritation in here.
But who cares?
Chinese leadership already know all of this.Japan ,US entire SCS nations all are against Chinese in one way or another.
And they are counting only on us because of our independent foreign policy . We can drastically change power dynamics in Asia if we form a strong alliance with that nations if we need.And that will take out someones in opposite even before an action.


P.S We Indians have one opinion unanimously .Modi is doing the right thing .That is why this so much dsturbances among neighbours and we like it.
 
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So basically you don't have an example of that "military term" of calculating a posture.

I just gave you one, but since your a hibitual troll, your intention never was to ask a genuine question. Don't waste my time again.
 
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