Modi's 'Mad Dog Posture' - Credible threat or a populist farce?

[Kompromat]

How should Pakistan calculate Modi's 'Mad Dog Posture' ?

As we're at it, he's trying to fan jingoism among his electorate during polls. Bashing Pakistan with 'trigger diplomacy' has worked historically well. Just start a flame war accusing Pakistan of imaginary border violations and supporting Kashmiris...the next thing you'll know is that those who can't even have a palmful of boiled rice and thin dal too would pick up their unwashed dhotis and get high on jingoism.

That is all understood. He is a mass murderer who's comfy with a bloodbath, he is an Islamophobic demagogue and a product of Hindutva ideology which seeks a mythical kingdom he plans to rule while riding a cow.

On the other hand are his real world limitations. He runs the only country in the world geographically locked between two nuclear armed enemies which are allied to each other. A weakening economy, a limit on the use of conventional military force and an almost complete string of pearls.

The question is...if Modi's policy towards Pakistan is going to earn him any more cookies than jingoistic hoo ha and populist votes?

If he commits aggression against Pakistan, either covertly or overtly...what should be our response to restrain him?

What does this mean for China and its interests in Pakistan and the region?

Thoughts?

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What is Mad Dog Posture?

''Mad Dog Posture'' Is a political theory which entails a policy of ''Violent Unilateralism'' adopted by a certain political regime to satisfy the domestic vote bank by engaging pre emptively against an assumed low teir threat. Demagogues like Bush, Blair, Hitler, Stalin, Saddam have used it in the past, mainly for political gains at home.

Hypothesis in this thread is to judge if Modis Mad Dog posture presents a credible security threat to Pakistan (Like Poland, Kuwait, Iraq etc) or its just a temporary farce to be scrapped at a later date.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The question is...if Modi's policy towards Pakistan is going to earn him any more cookies than jingoistic hoo ha and populist votes?

If he commits aggression against Pakistan, either covertly or overtly...what should be our response to restrain him?

What does this mean for China and its interests in Pakistan and the region?

Thoughts?

I think improved Sino-Pakistani cooperation is one vital aspect of this puzzle. I believe 1962 was a huge wasted opportunity (due to the pro-US policies of Ayub Khan), but was certainly not the last opportunity.

Unfortunately most of that coordination is happening behind closed doors, so can't be a part of our discussion.

Modi is going to make the same mistake that Nehru did, of overstretching himself. The question is, when Modi inevitably makes that one big mistake (Forward policy 2.0), will we be there to catch him? And how will we deal with the aftermath.

That is all understood. He is a mass murderer who's comfy with a bloodbath, he is an Islamophobic nutbag and a product of Hindutva ideology which seeks a mythical kingdom he plans to rule while riding a cow.

Modi's tendencies are directed at Indian Muslims, he has no such leverage over Chinese or Pakistani citizens, and both countries are very much able to pay him back in kind. As we have seen during the last Pakistan-India border incident over the LOC, with Modi declaring "We taught them a lesson"... only for artillery fire to resume the next day.

In fact we have seen Modi fall flat on his face (what we call 仆街 in Cantonese) twice already. First with the so-called "Chinese incursion" during Xi Jinping's visit to India, which India tried to pass off as some disconnect between the CPC and the PLA, which any Chinese person knows is pure BS. Xi Jinping has consolidated his power base in the CPC and the PLA to an extent that has not been seen in the last few decades, just check for the name Xu Caihou to see an example.

The second was with his claim to have "taught a lesson" to Pakistan, only to have firing resume the next day. He is stretching the limits of his capabilities, and when he finds out that returning India to 8%+ growth is impossible, he will have to find another way to consolidate his political capital. This could turn into a Hitler-like (or Modi-like) situation, and we know how that turned out.

Luckily for us, China and Pakistan combined are vastly more powerful than India, by multiple times. Modi's foolishness could turn into a huge opportunity to solve the border issue, once and for all.

War is of course the worst case scenario, but Indian policy may leave us with no choice, like it did with the Forward Policy. And we must be prepared for a repeat of the same.

 

[chauvunist]

He is gonna trap himself in a dead end street...Every time he boasts of giving befitting reply to Pakistan and giving the impression to the jignoistic crowd that Pakistan will not dare do it again and after sometime Pakistan again reply them in a similar manner/violates ceasefire than he is gonna lose his credibility bit by bit...

For example with the impression he is giving of being iron-handed approach towards Pakistan,what happens if there is another Mumbai 26/11 like fiasco regardless of whoever does it(ultimately they are gonna blame us),then what is he gonna do,Go to war which can be Nuclear as well or follow restraint(thus losing his macho-man image) either way it's a lose-lose situation for him..

 

[Sugarcane]

Modi & gang and Indian media is doing good job, we should encourage them to go extra mile.

 

[Judge]

The only thing he allowed was to give BSF a free hand in firing back which was withheld under Mr Manmohan Singh.

Mr Modi has not done anything yet, what is it exactly that Pakistan worried about.

And he is unlikely to do anything in the near future - he is systematically building up the Indian economy and military and he needs a minimum of 5 years to do it.

He has already kick started changes in defense and is increasing domestic defense manufacturing and the Economy is already rising. Both aspects have nothing to do with Pakistan.

 

[Star Wars]

@Chinese-Dragon Your opinions are as flimsy as a wet tissue paper , only few months were part of the Modi fan club

Besides Chinese and Pakistanis think they should have the freedom to fire ,infiltrate and send troops to our side of the border when ever they feel like without being reciprocated . When reply is given back in kind you see threads like these pop up.

This would not happen if you people were concerned with your side of the border and not this side but unfortunately sending infiltrators and Chinese troops to this side has become somewhat of a hobby. So yeah , any misadventure from our neighbors will be given back in kind , so maybe its best to stick to your own borders and not throw a hissy fit when what you are doing comes back at you .

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

@Chinese-Dragon Your opinions are as flimsy as a wet tissue paper , only few months were part of the Modi fan club

Yes I was, and I still am.

And the reason has always been the same. The reason has not changed. (In fact @Horus was also supporting Modi for similar reasons to myself).

Tell me, what is the foundation of the Indian Union? Answer: "Unity in Diversity".

Now what better way to break that foundation, than to have Indians elect a mass murderer of Muslims to be their leader? That is what you call breaking the foundations.

When Indian Muslims buy out of the idea of India, then another Partition will be inevitable.

 

[Star Wars]

Yes I was, and I still am.

And the reason has always been the same. The reason has not changed. (In fact @Horus was also supporting Modi for similar reasons to myself).

Tell me, what is the foundation of the Indian Union? Answer: "Unity in Diversity".
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Not sure if you are trolling are simply trying to please your green friends

Now what better way to break that foundation, than to have Indians elect a mass murderer of Muslims to be their leader? That is what you call breaking the foundations.

When Indian Muslims buy out of the idea of India, then another Partition will be inevitable. Modi will hurt the foundation of the Indian Union more than any foreigner could do

Am sorry to inform you that its Sunni Muslims and Ahmedis who has actually voted for him in mass in these elections .So yea , its not gonna happen .

 

[Phoenix89]

China can't step in a war of India and Pakistan. That is a fact.

Mr Modi will take steps that are needed to make India economical stroger than what it is now. And in the process he will do everyting to put Pakistan in its place when ever needed.

Meanwhile China as usual will be having strong trading ties with India. China has nothing to do with Pakistanis, please understand.

 

[jaunty]

How should Pakistan calculate Modi's 'Mad Dog Posture' ?

How do you calculate a posture?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Not sure if you are trolling are simply trying to please your green friends



Am sorry to inform you that its Sunni Muslims and Ahmedis who has actually voted for him in mass in these elections .So yea , its not gonna happen .

So you were not curious that a Chinese nationalist like myself, and a Pakistani nationalist like Horus, were both supporting Modi?

Think about it for more than a second.

We are nationalists, that means we look out for the interests of our own country FIRST.

Believing that we were somehow looking out for India's interests is a bit naive, don't you think? In fact, it is quite ludicrous. The only reason we would support Modi is for the interests of our own country, not India.

Modi can bring us profits/business while smashing the very foundation of the Indian Union, weakening India's power and giving us more opportunities at the border. Nobody could attack the foundations of the Indian Union in the way that Modi's rise could possibly have done. Or start India on the inevitable path to Partition 2.0. No foreigner in the world could have done it.

All we could do is hope you guys elect Modi, and you did.

 

[jaunty]

So you were not curious that a Chinese nationalist like myself, and a Pakistani nationalist like Horus, were both supporting Modi?

I am sure Modi appreciates your support. It must have been really effective in getting him elected as the PM of India.

 

[kbd-raaf]

Modi can bring us profits/business while smashing the very foundation of the Indian Union, weakening India's power and giving us more opportunities at the border. Nobody could attack the foundations of the Indian Union in the way that Modi's rise could possibly have done. Or start India on the inevitable path to Partition 2.0. No foreigner in the world could have done it.

Oh CD you troll you.

I thought I was good at it. :')

 

[Star Wars]

Modi can bring us profits/business while smashing the very foundation of the Indian Union, weakening India's power and giving us more opportunities at the border. Nobody could attack the foundations of the Indian Union in the way that Modi's rise could possibly have done. Or start India on the inevitable path to Partition 2.0. No foreigner in the world could have possibly hurt India as deeply as Modi can.

@JanjaWeed @Sidak @jha @nair
Read this gem

Gosh ....are you trolling me or are you trolling @Horus

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I am sure Modi appreciates your support. It must have been really effective in getting him elected as the PM of India.

You're right, we had very little input on the matter. Apart from a few "red carpet welcomes" on his trips to China, we had no real way of ensuring his victory. Just a few hints here and there.

Of course, nobody wondered "Why the Hell is China giving Modi a red carpet welcome if he isn't even the leader of India yet?"

Luckily people don't tend to think too much about that, like why a leader of a state/province is getting a welcome that is reserved for a head of state? Isn't that strange?

Don't think about it too deeply.