Modi indirectly admits superiority of Pakistan’s air force

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Pakistan air defense capabilities are not more than 26k while advanced fighters can take out any target with precision guided system even from 40k feet.Currently you best bet is fighter jets not Sam.

S300 or any thing similar need of the hour demand China to share more long range Sam.

I think India very soon will get S300 from Russia it will make India almost invincible against any aireal threat in future including missiles.

Well the HQ-9 system is already available to us. Perhaps we should look at inducting them in small numbers across strategic positions?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

No
He is going to get re-elected, but only in the extremist areas; he may take a bunch of losses in the more astute population.

But more importantly, the rafale scandal is forgotten and the fake perception that the pilot was returned under pressure is common in India

The BJP has very strong links in the media. Republic TV is owned by a BJP member and they’ve got plenty of cheerleaders and influence elsewhere in the media to promote Modi and distort reality.

The problem is deeper than just Modi now though - the brand of toxic Hindu nationalism and Hindu superiority he’s promoting, harking back to some technologically advanced mythological Hindu civilization that owes its demise to ‘outsiders’ is finding traction with a swathe of Hindus who have long chafed under the reality of what India is and what, in their view, it could have been.

If not Modi, the BJP or other Hindu extremist parties will field candidates to tap into that vote bank

 

[Joe Shearer]

Yes he has retired........ But su-30 and mirage 2000 was also included in the package that engaged PAF.

Really? Who said so? Where is that information?

 

[Arsalan 345]

it's not about jet,it's about skill and strategy.tactical pakistani victory.

 

[Mace]

Rules havw cahnged india is now confident that it can do repeated strikes ..Pakistan thus needs an urgent revamp of air force ..this os going to be vwry difficult with current economic crisis

Yours a pragmatic voice bro

 

[CriticalThought]

India's decision to attack with missiles makes me think

They can not take just one loss (as per their claims) and didn't dare to cross again instead, thought about attacking with missiles clearly shows they don't have the stomach to take the losses in a full blown war

IAF is all talk, has no confidence in their strategy, equipment or personnel to counter our small sample offensive

Their "No first use policy" is crap, even a small loss will push them to start the nuclear war sooner than Pakistan

Saying that absence of Rafales is the reason for their losses, means they did use SU30MKI's and got spanked
They don't have any confidence in SU30's capabilities, or Modi just wants to get the huge kickbacks by buying more Rafales. Wants to divert the attention from kickback investigations on Rafales deal.

@Oscar @Bilal Khan 777 @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Tps43 @CriticalThought @waz @xyxmt @DESERT FIGHTER

You can go and search what I have written about Su-30 on the forum. I once created a thread titled Su-30 is an Indian folly. The thread attracted criticism from Russian members and simply disappeared into thin air. It is possible that not mentioning Su-30 kill has something to do with Russian sensitivities. In the immediate aftermath of Pakistani response, a Russian member came online and said I now understand why nobody wants to sell you advanced jets. Your pilots are good.

Yes the one according to many Indian posters can take down multiple PAF jets in a single action.
I’m dying to bring up the most outragous trash that three particular Indian posters used to parrot here constantly. But I’ll leave it.

Haha. In your heart of hearts, YOU used to believe it too

And most importantly it debunks the myth of indian conventional superiority, especially those created by fanboys here

And you never bought into it?

 

[Darvesh]

Who wants to play?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1101918159043510273

 

[ARMalik]

The main question is that there are 242 MKIs with IAF and if these frontline indian jets cannot compete with PAF, then WHAT WILL happen to these MKIs? And then a bigger question - Doesn't that the mean the whole of IAF inventory consisting of MKIs, Migs-21, 27, 29, and Mirage-2000 CANNOT COMPETE with PAF?

 

[My-Analogous]

PM Modi said that when the world is standing behind India's fight against terror, some parties are questioning it.
News18.com


New Delhi: Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Saturday took on the opposition over the issue of air strikes on terror camps in Pakistan, saying that the entire country is feeling the absence of Rafale fighter jet aircraft.


https://www.news18.com/news/politic...modi-amid-tensions-with-pakistan-2053633.html

Modi late that deal more then 5 years and showing crocodile tears to save his kickback repo. Indian knows that

PM Modi said that when the world is standing behind India's fight against terror, some parties are questioning it.
News18.com


New Delhi: Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Saturday took on the opposition over the issue of air strikes on terror camps in Pakistan, saying that the entire country is feeling the absence of Rafale fighter jet aircraft.


https://www.news18.com/news/politic...modi-amid-tensions-with-pakistan-2053633.html

But sir, according to All Indian news, JF17 is 3rd gen fighter. Why they not used mostly lethal Indian fighter LCA against JF17 since even Indian Kiran is batter then JF17

 

[raja786]

پاکستان کی ائیرفورس آج سے 10سال پہلے انڈیا کی ائیرفورس سے بہت پیچھے تھی۔ کارگل کی جھڑپوں میں پاکستان نے ائیرفورس استمال نہی کی اسکی سب سے بڑی وجہ جدید ٹیکنالوجی کی کمی یا نہ ہونا تھی۔ وقت کے ساتھ پاکستان نے ارلی وارننگ سسٹم اپنی فضائیہ میں شامل کئے۔ اور تھنڈر پر کام جاری رکھا۔ اب وقت پاک فضائیہ کے ساتھ ہے۔ زیادہ ٹیکنیکل تفصیلات میں جائے بغیر دنیا کا کوئی بھی بھی فائیٹر جیٹ تھنڈر سے نہی بچ سکتا(ناٹ اسٹیلتھ)۔ کیونکہ تھنڈر خود اکیلا مقابلے پر نہی ہو گا۔ بہت ساری انفارمیشن دوسرے پلیٹفارمز سے مل رہی ہوتی ہے۔ اور پائلٹ کا کام ٹارگٹ پر فائر ہی کرنا ہے۔ اب کلوز کمبیٹ کا آپشن شائیڈ ہی کھبی استمال ہو۔ پاکستان فضائیہ کے اعتبار سے کافی بہتر پوزیشن میں ہے دفاعی لحاظ سے اور ہم بڑے آرام سے یہ کہ سکتے ہیں کہ پاکستان نے جو دو جہاز گرائے ہیں ان میں سے ایک ہائی اینڈ فائیٹر گرایا ہے جس کی وجہ سے انڈین فضائیہ چپ کرکے بیٹھ گئی۔ اور آج مودی کو سرعام شکست تسلیم کرنی پڑی۔ باقی سب کہانیاں ہیں سنو اور مزے کرو۔

 

[GumNaam]

It would have been a worst embarrassment for India/Modi if Rafael jet was shot by Pakistan JF-17 or any other make.

It is not about the machine, it is about 'men behind the machine'.

Don't worry, when they finally arrive, the PAF will In shaa Allah turn their rafaels into waffles as well!

 

[The Eagle]

It was all political from start. Elections are near and opposition was somehow educating people that BJP MODI failed to deliver their basic rights etc etc and then, recent Rafale Corruption case was into debate as well. What actually Modi did was divert, beat the drums of war, cover own incompetence under blames of terrorism & then brag about for whatever he is blamed.

Either he accepted or not but he is playing political cards. Military has become is political wing to make sure he is winning. Well, why Military would do so? is the question which may come to mind but to understand that, imagine kickbacks & shiny gadgets only. Remember G.D Bakhshi being blamed for corruption as well?

However, Modi tried to escalate things just so to play jingoism before public as he promised in his last election. He injected too much war hysteria into public, promised to teach Pakistan a lesson & went on claim for what, he himself been blaming Army/Intel Agencies. (Been mocking congress that Military etc controls everything then why these attacks etc... & seems like they are involved). Modi became PM, those blames went off because he was mocking Military/Intel. Intel helped him to reach PM House and then, seems like both corrupt within Govt. lines started to eat from inside.

Now the narrative of terrorism was somehow going down due to rise of observations over Kashmir by international communities, Pulwama Happened. The same Pulwama Attack that claimed several lives but again, Kashmir became center of discussion. Pakistan narrative supported by nations as nothing was proven against Islamabad except of verbal claims. Modi came with yet another bravado claim to teach Pakistan a lesson & cross the line, LOC. Went back to beat drums of so-called 300+ JeM casualties & what not but that too, was busted as nothing damaged nor any casualty except for dozen trees & one crow.

Modi went back to drawing board again & even could have thought something on that day, Pakistan struck him with something that neither India is accepting fully nor Pakistan claims with everything. Interestingly, rather than that Pakistan was expected to boast about & claim more & more damage to India, DG ISPR explained in a short summary about retaliation. India lost 2 birds as ISPR but captured only one pilot & down Mig-21 while SU-30MKI is not yet proven officialy.

What really appears here that there is more loss that suddenly, no more air violations. Modi went back to drawing board which he missed previously due to PAF strike & thought a lot as how to cash on this now. Truth been making its way out to public & saner voices within India started to question. Right at that time, Modi & Co. decided that lets take this to counter most of Indian questions. India is lacking power (otherwise PAF wouldn't done so), Rafale corruption is nothing but we need it by every mean because its the most competent fighter (where is leading MKI here being praised as Raptor of Asia), India is under constant threat and only BJP bought Rafale hence, vote again so India can buy Rafale and teach Pakistan a lesson.

All back to the last election campaign and similarly, he will win.

 

[ziaulislam]

Pakistan air defense capabilities are not more than 26k while advanced fighters can take out any target with precision guided system even from 40k feet.Currently you best bet is fighter jets not Sam.

S300 or any thing similar need of the hour demand China to share more long range Sam.

I think India very soon will get S300 from Russia it will make India almost invincible against any aireal threat in future including missiles.

Actually Pakistan has 40-70km LOMADs

 

[HAIDER]

 

[Mugwop]

Isn't su30MKI better than Rafael?

modi is forgetting that "PILOT ALSO MATTERS NOT JUST THE MACHINE"
saddam at one time had a very advance airforce but their pilots weren't very good.