What's new

Modi Has Won Respect for India Abroad. Can He Use It to Solve Problems With Pakistan—and China, Too?

hkdas

BANNED
Joined
Oct 26, 2012
Messages
2,271
Reaction score
-20
Country
India
Location
India
Narendra Modi’s India is turning out to be quite different from Manmohan Singh’s India. This is borne out by America’s shift in policy. If the old India often appeared like a supplicant before the US, the roles seem reversed now. Consider technology, for example. From the 1980s, the US was determined to scuttle India’s space programme. It refused ISRO’s request for assistance in cryogenic technology development. India then found Russia willing to help, but the US forced Russia to renege on its agreement. Thereupon P V Narasimha Rao announced, in 1993, that India would develop cryogenic technology indigenously. An angry US warned that its two-year ban on selling space components to ISRO would be extended. All this hostility was on the plea that India was actually after nuclear weapons development. Yet the US did not lift a finger in protest when China and North Korea equipped Pakistan with nuclear capability. Despite all the obstructionism, GSLV’s advanced rocket soared into space last January, a triumph for India and a reproach to America.

It was a new America that sent its Defence Secretary, Chuck Hagel, to India a few days ago. Without the slightest embarrassment, he said that India and America must “transform our nations’ defence cooperation from simply buying and selling to co-production, co-development and freer exchange of technology”. This is what is known as epiphany. Hagel is used to it. Three years ago, as a Senator, he had criticised India for “using Afghanistan as a second front to fund problems for Pakistan from that side of the border”. Now, in Delhi’s fresh air, he said, “India has a critical responsibility in terms of Afghanistan’s security.” This is what is known as patriotic opportunism.

Clearly Hagel’s chameleon act was meant to get America into Narendra Modi’s good books. The new Prime Minister is seen around the world as a game-changer. His domestic agenda is still evolving though his associates have rushed through programmes that worry sections of the people. But in foreign affairs Modi has been firm. It’s a tough field where victories can be quickly overtaken by setbacks. Nonetheless he has shown that he is not lacking in courage. He did not hesitate to make America angry by going against WTO’s pro-Western definition of free trade. But America did not retaliate. Instead, on the Mumbai terror inquiry, having blocked linchpin David Headley’s extradition to India and his interrogation by Indian investigators except under American supervision, the US now says that India’s request for access to the terror mastermind is “under discussion”.

Modi’s readiness to stand up to American pressure has enhanced his standing with China and Russia. India is now seen, not as a Western ally, but as a power that will take independent decisions. This reading must be the reason for China’s recent initiative to make India a full member of the important Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO).

Known as Asia’s NATO, the SCO has the potential to change the prevailing, West-centric economic and strategic structure of the world. Significantly, India is becoming a member against the background of a renewed American strategy of containment against China and Russia. No wonder that Russia, a member, is delighted by the invitation to India and predicts that the SCO will consequently become “a centre of power in world politics”.

Such major international realignments, however, benefit those who know how to handle them subtly, astutely and even cunningly. China is adept at this and will be using India’s, Iran’s, Pakistan’s and Mongolia’s membership of the SCO to its diplomatic advantage every inch of the way. The latest Ladakh incursions could well be manoeuvres for future negotiations from a position of strength. Similarly Russia will gain considerably with oil and gas pipelines across the Asian landmass. What of India? The reality is that all our progress on all other fronts can be subverted by lack of progress on the Pakistan front. Last week’s cancellation of talks between the two countries showed how abruptly things can go wrong for India. Modi, inexperienced in international diplomatic intrigue, now has warm relations with two masters of that game, Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin. Will he be shrewd enough to talk them into cooperation under the umbrella of the SCO? This is a rare—perhaps the biggest—test of Modi’s political skills. If he bargains cleverly, a border pact with China is not inconceivable. If China helps, an end to the Pakistani Army’s hostility is not inconceivable. Is that level of diplomatic dexterity on Modi’s part conceivable?

Modi Has Won Respect for India Abroad. Can He Use It to Solve Problems With Pakistan—and China, Too? -The New Indian Express
 
.
Nopes.

Pakistan and China do not need access to Indian market.

The west is bending over, because they need a market in time of recession !
 
. .
Nopes.

Pakistan and China do not need access to Indian market.

The west is bending over, because they need a market in time of recession !

Now you are making decisions for china too...looks like china is not making decisions keeping you in mind...

Typical Pakistani behavior..always think that the world revolves around it...during the cold war, this was exactly the thinking...US does not need india.,..now look at US-India relations...and btw also read the article posted above...
 
. .

Yes, sure .. you are right,
buy do they need to do it for survival ?

Now you are making decisions for china too...looks like china is not making decisions keeping you in mind...

Typical Pakistani behavior..always think that the world revolves around it...during the cold war, this was exactly the thinking...US does not need india.,..now look at US-India relations...and btw also read the article posted above...

See what your name is,, supply and demand, eventually every thing is a matter of business.
No matter how disillusioned you may choose to be to ignore that.
 
.
Yes, sure .. you are right,
buy do they need to do it for survival ?



See what your name is,, supply and demand, eventually every thing is a matter of business.
No matter how disillusioned you may choose to be to ignore that.


Who is talking about survival?

Its about normalisation of ties between 2 countries.

China is a major trade partner for India. About time China starts investing in India and vice versa.

Same cannot be said for pakistan as India is always in a state of limited conflict in Kashmir.

We cannot talk amidst guns and bombs.
 
.
I stopped reading right after it said Pakistan was equipped with Nukes from China and NK. Clearly the person did ZERO research and basically just made up an article based on a hollow opinion.
 
.
Yes, sure .. you are right,
buy do they need to do it for survival ?



See what your name is,, supply and demand, eventually every thing is a matter of business.
No matter how disillusioned you may choose to be to ignore that.
offcourse..it is business...and that is why we know china is not gonna have war with us..as it is beneficial to both of our countries not to go to war and enhance trade relations...unlike u we dont claim 'higher than mountains, deeper than ocean' relationship...not even with russia and usa..that is why we will win every war...but u guys..not so sure..
 
.
Who is talking about survival?

Its about normalisation of ties between 2 countries.

China is a major trade partner for India. About time China starts investing in India and vice versa.

Same cannot be said for pakistan as India is always in a state of limited conflict in Kashmir.

We cannot talk amidst guns and bombs.

was that too much ?
that your forum cherry needs surgical attention ?

offcourse..it is business...and that is why we know china is not gonna have war with us..as it is beneficial to both of our countries not to go to war and enhance trade relations...unlike u we dont claim 'higher than mountains, deeper than ocean' relationship...not even with russia and usa..that is why we will win every war...but u guys..not so sure..

Sure, it goes both ways !
tell that to your overly patriotic country man

stay tuned && Keep watching
 
.
Now you are making decisions for china too...looks like china is not making decisions keeping you in mind...

Typical Pakistani behavior..always think that the world revolves around it...during the cold war, this was exactly the thinking...US does not need india.,..now look at US-India relations...and btw also read the article posted above...


No thts just indian mentality ... Which can be viewed on this forum..
 
.
Yes, sure .. you are right,
buy do they need to do it for survival ?

Neither are we dependent on Chinese investment - it's been just recently that China has started its diversification and investments and we have done alright without them all this while.

As for the contention that they need us for survival, China has been surviving from centuries locked out fromthe world hence, it's foolish to contend that they need anybody else for survival, because they have survived even in hardships. OTOH,as per economics 101, China needs to tap into a huge market - they have exhausted the western one and for them to grow they need diversification. They also have the dough to bankroll them and India is primary in the secondary market structure in markets following the western and the arab markets. The rest are on ventilator.
 
. .
China and Japan are vying to sell a bullet train to India.

See, what i am trying to explain yourself and @illusion8

is that they are selling because a profit is to be made out of it.
Point in case is the FGFA deal.
See how long different countries have fought over the deal,
true the Indian have been able to squeeze some favorable outcomes of it

however, eventually it is the IAF which has suffered due to delayed delivery and a culture of diplomatic "coercion"
 
.
See, what i am trying to explain yourself and @illusion8

true the Indian have been able to squeeze some favorable outcomes of it

however, eventually it is the IAF which has suffered due to delayed delivery and a culture of diplomatic "coercion"


is that they are selling because a profit is to be made out of it.
I seriously don't know how they even make a profit out of zero interest finance option, and all deadlines strongly in control of it's order provider. We are talking about a potential business of a few 100 billion dollars - the bullet train project - not to mention a 100 coal fired thermal power plants. FYI, none of the Chinese nuclear power plants went through India's assessment tests. Pakistani's are very lucky because they are the only international buyers of "chinese nuke power plants" - and will be the sole customers for a while.


I just hope that the Pakistani's had so much sense to come up with a liability clause, which I doubt they ever were able to have the gumption to even propose.

Point in case is the FGFA deal.
See how long different countries have fought over the deal,

F35 for naval - no other competition - I think you @Hank Moody, are mixing up MMRCA with the FGFA. Frankly there aren't too many 5th gen options. - In-fact there are none, other than the F35 vs the T50, the rest are just toys. We are partners in the FGFA program.

however, eventually it is the IAF which has suffered due to delayed delivery and a culture of diplomatic "coercion"

Okay, I would grant that the rafale deal has been inordinately delayed, but can you explain how we suffered in the context of "whom"?. There hasn't been a major upheaval while we delayed - the most PAF got were 13 old F16's while we added the
same number of SU30 MKI's or more.
 
.

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom