Modi govt made defence exports jump 700%. Now it must radically reform ordnance factories

[Surya 1]

I post facts not BS like some. Please don't link me with you. You are staining me.

And we saw the factual content in your above post. You are right, your abuse and BS is fact for you. Wonder of reeducation camp.

 

[Trango Towers]

America is buying major of India's export.

India has weapons developed for very Harsh environment and varied needs. India's weapons should suite to the requirements of many countries. Akash, Brahmos, Tejas, Our sonars, warships, ALH, LCH, tactical missiles etc. are highly potent and packs big technology punch in a very competitive price. This is just a beginning. Lot more will come. Many state of art systems will have its market.

ok what have you sold to america??? this will be fun

 

[AUz]

ok what have you sold to america??? this will be fun

Better question: What product have india sold to any country in 2019? Small license arms, bullets, and supply-chain parts are normal 'sell' for some countries even in Africa.

Even Pakistan's ordinance factories sell such stuff to US/UK etc. Real question is: What finished defence product india sells in International markets?

Hardly any

In terms of middle-man Supply chain defence "exports"----small Muslim UAE has higher exports than backward sh*thole that is india with 1.3 billion population

Defence/military hasn't been a forte of indian dharmics historically anyways

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Modi govt made defence exports jump 700%. Now it must radically reform ordnance factories
PM Modi targets $5 billion in defence exports in next 5 years. If 'Make in India’ reaches its full potential, $10-15 billion is achievable in a decade.
LT GEN H S PANAG (RETD) 19 March, 2020 12:29 pm IST

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An unsung success story of the Narendra Modi government has been a quantum jump in India’s arms exports. As per the data published by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, or SIPRI, in March 2020, India is ranked 23rd in the list of major arms exporters for 2015-2019 and 19th for 2019. The Ministry of Defence’s annual report 2018-19 records that the defence exports were worth Rs 10,745 crore, a growth of more than 100 per cent from 2017-18 (Rs 4,682 crore) and over 700 per cent since 2016-17 (Rs 1,521 crore).

This has been possible due to the Modi government reviewing its arms export policy and streamlining the procedure for granting permission to both public and private companies.

At the inauguration of DefExpo, Lucknow, on 5 February, Prime Minister Modi said, “In 2014, the export of defence equipment from India was about Rs 2,000 crore. In the last two years, it has gone up to Rs 17,000 crore. In the next five years, our target is to increase exports to $5 billion, which is about Rs 35,000 crore.” Modi added that the world’s largest democracy cannot remain dependent on imports for its security.


Is this a realistic and achievable goal? In my view, an export target of $5 billion in the next five years is not only achievable but can even match our current capital outlay for defence of $15 billion in a decade. I analyse the lackadaisical past, the turnaround with effect from 2014, and the way forward for arms exports.

Also read: India’s defence forces can’t wait for Modi’s $5-trillion economy dream. Slowdown is hurting

Lackadaisical past
India had inherited a well-established defence production base in the form of 18 ordnance factories that made a major contribution to the British war effort in World War 2. Four were established between 1947 and 1962 and 19 more units came up thereafter, taking the total to 41 as of today. We also had Hindustan Aircraft Limited, Bangalore, which became Hindustan Aeronautics Limited in 1964, and the Naval Dockyard, which was established in 1817 in present-day Mumbai. In addition, a number of defence public sector undertakings (DPSUs) have been established over the years. The modernisation and expansion of these facilities have been painfully slow and have not kept pace with the times.


The fact that we are the second-largest importer of arms in the world reflects on the poor state of our defence manufacturing infrastructure.

It is a truism that a defence industry only focussing on domestic demand cannot sustain itself. Apart from the industry’s poor state, India’s foreign policy and cultural pacifism also did not allow us to become a major arms exporter. Complex procedures to obtain necessary sanctions, particularly by the private industry, further compounded the problem.


India has been exporting arms since 1959 to a select few, friendly countries. The exports were sporadic and technology available was ageing. By 2013-14, our exports were a meagre $113 million (at then exchange rates). The following episodes from the earlier era best illustrate all that was wrong with India’s export policy.

India discarded the French AMX 13 tank — considered obsolete — for want of refurbishing capability of our defence industry in the mid 1970s. It was bought by Singapore as junk and refurbished with a modern fire control system and a 105-mm gun. I saw these tanks fully operational in 2006 when Singapore was carrying out joint training with us at Babina.

Similarly, Centurion tanks in the late 1970s were sold as junk to international vendors who resold them to South Africa, which refurbished them and used them in Angola in mid 1980 with original Indian markings, much to our embarrassment.

In 1994, I was heading the Indian military advisory and training team to set up a Command and Staff College in Zambia. The Zambian army chief made a rather modest request to me for 1,000 military picks and shovels from India. Eager to promote military diplomacy, I met our high commissioner, a former Army officer, and we quickly sent in a request for selling/donating the equipment to the Zambian army. The cost was trivial, approximately Rs 3 lakh, including shipping. Our repeated reminders to the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) and the MoD received a standard reply — that the matter was under consideration. And it remained under consideration for six months, until it ceased to matter and Zambia imported the equipment from Belgium at 15 times the price.

Also read: Not media, CDS Rawat should be talking to military chiefs about India’s defence reform

The turnaround
A specific export strategy for defence did not exist at all until August 2014. Exports were carried out under the Foreign Trade Policy after obtaining a no-objection certificate (NOC) from the MoD. The Modi government hit the ground running and a strategy for facilitating defence exports was formulated and promulgated in September 2014, focussing on export promotion/facilitation and export regulation.


It was decided that India will set up an Export Promotion Body with participation from public and private industry to advise the government, coordinate all export facilitation schemes of the government, and promote exports through specific marketing in target countries. A Defence Export Steering Committee headed by the Secretary, Department of Defence Production — with representatives from the armed forces, DRDO, Planning and International Cooperation Wing, and Acquisition Wings of the MoD, MEA and Director General Foreign Trade — was set up. The functions include taking decisions on export of sensitive equipment, monitoring the progress of defence exports, and suggesting specific steps/strategies to boost exports.

It was decided to include delegations from the public, private and joint venture sectors in bilateral meetings/discussions with friendly countries to inspire confidence in India’s defence products. Indian embassies would also promote defence exports.

Specific incentives were introduced under the Foreign Trade Policy. The Ministry of External Affairs was directed to facilitate a line of credit for foreign countries to import defence products, where feasible defence exports could also be financed through Exim Bank. The offset policy was reviewed and aligned towards integration of weapons/systems in India to enable exports.

The entire procedure for granting NOCs for exports was overhauled and streamlined to make it time bound and user friendly.

This strategy has paid rich dividends with a 700 per cent jump in defence exports. The actual exports could be much higher because since 2014, a large number of products have been removed from the defence products list. Interestingly, the private industry has 60 per cent share in the total exports.

Also read: Why Indian Army must not resist Modi govt’s contractor model for base workshops

The way forward
While India has made significant progress over the last five years, its share of global arms exports is only 0.17 per cent. This indicates both our below-par performance and the big opportunity that beckons us. The question that arises then is: considering the fact that we are one of the world’s leading importers of medium- and high-end military technology products, can we really seize this opportunity? The answer is an emphatic yes.

Our interim strategy should be to focus on low-end technology weapons and equipment, non-lethal military equipment, and selective medium/high technology equipment like Brahmos missile, Pinaka multi-barrel rocket launcher, Advanced Light Helicopter, naval craft/ships, Akash air defence system and Astra air-to-air missile.

All major countries maintain their own military and police forces. Relatively poor countries in Africa and the Middle East, without any manufacturing base, import military equipment from Western countries, China and Russia at rates that they can ill afford. If we garner even the non-lethal military equipment market, we can hit the $5 billion mark in five years.

Once ‘Make in India’ reaches its full potential, then we can also focus on full range of medium/high military technology weapons and equipment. If we maintain course, $10-15 billion target is achievable in a decade.

The prerequisite for this is a radical revamp of our ordnance factories and other DPSUs in terms of modernisation, work culture and quality control. A Government Owned Contractor Operated, or GOCO, model should be put in place for inefficient establishments. There is also a need to create an environment for greater participation of private industry.

Last but not the least, the Modi government must find and appoint an ‘Indian Albert Speer’ to manage India’s defence production. Albert Speer, as the legendary German Minister for Armament and Defence Production during the Second World War, transformed, maintained, sustained and increased arms production against all odds.

Lt Gen H S Panag PVSM, AVSM (R) served in the Indian Army for 40 years. He was GOC in C Northern Command and Central Command. Post retirement, he was Member of Armed Forces Tribunal. Views are personal.

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SMH.

Better question: What product have india sold to any country in 2019? Small license arms, bullets, and supply-chain parts are normal 'sell' for some countries even in Africa.

Even Pakistan's ordinance factories sell such stuff to US/UK etc. Real question is: What finished defence product india sells in International markets?

Hardly any

In terms of middle-man Supply chain defence "exports"----small Muslim UAE has higher exports than backward sh*thole that is india with 1.3 billion population

Defence/military hasn't been a forte of indian dharmics historically anyways

Rub it in but do with more tact.

They will vent out their frustration by beating up an innocent Muslim man instead.

 

[Surya 1]

ok what have you sold to america??? this will be fun

Chopper bodies of best choppers of US, Aircraft spare parts etc. I hope this will be fun for you.

 

[Trango Towers]

Chopper bodies of best choppers of US, Aircraft spare parts etc. I hope this will be fun for you.

what has indian sold....why cant you name something? what chopper bodies. what aircraft spare? what what what? ummmm

 

[Surya 1]

what has indian sold....why cant you name something? what chopper bodies. what aircraft spare? what what what? ummmm

Do i have to spoon feed you everything? Can't you search it yourself?

Tata Advanced Systems’ Hyderabad chopper cabin unit becomes 100% indigenous
1 min read . Updated: 24 Oct 2013, 07:36 PM ISTP. R. Sanjai

Tata Advanced and Sikorsky Aircraft say India operation assembling cabins, producing parts needed for assembly, before exporting them to the US

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Mumbai:Tata Advanced Systems Ltd and US-based helicopter maker Sikorsky Aircraft Corp. Thursday said their S-92 type helicopter cabin production unit in Hyderabad has become 100% indigenous.

The companies said the India operation is not only assembling cabins but also producing the parts needed for the assembly, before shipping the cabins to the US for aircraft completion and delivery.

Sikorsky, among the world’s largest helicopter makers, has a tie-up with Tata Advanced Systems to make S-92 helicopter cabins at a facility in Hyderabad for the global market.

Arvind Jeet Singh Walia, regional executive, India and South Asia, Sikorsky Aircraft, said the Hyderabad facility built the 50th S-92 helicopter cabin in October. “The Tata Advanced System facility now has the capacity to produce up to four cabins a month and is responsible for future design modifications," Walia said.

In November 2009, Sikorsky and Tata Advanced Systems entered into a joint-venture for production of more than 5,000 aerospace components in India, establishing two factories in Hyderabad. The S-92 helicopter cabins from India are shipped to the US for assembly, and the completed helicopters are delivered to customers globally.

“In a short span, Tata Advanced Systems has delivered on the challenge of indigenous manufacturing and assembly of cabins for S-92 helicopters. TASL’s capabilities across the aerospace value chain and its highly skilled and dedicated workforce have put India on the global map as a preferred destination for OEMs (original equipment manufacturers)," said S. Ramadorai, chairman, Tata Advanced Systems.

Sikorsky has plans to design and manufacture civilian and military helicopters in India for the local and Asia-Pacific market in four years, the first time a foreign aircraft company will use the country’s aerospace know-how to make choppers for the overseas market, Mint reported on 2 March.

On Monday, Mahindra Aerospace Pvt. Ltd signed a technology partnership with the Spain’s Aernnova Group, which designs and manufactures major airframe parts. Mahindra Aerospace said it will work together with Aernnova to develop capabilities and meet market demand for mutual benefit.

Mahindra Aerospace also inaugurated a 25,000-sq. m aerostructure manufacturing facility at Narsapura industrial estate near Bangalore on Monday.

 

[BL33D]

Hopefully India finalizes the Brahmos export deal to the Phillipines soon. After that Indonesia and thailand are likely destinations.

 

[Musings]

you import and export what is the problem?

A nation that has 1000s starving to death on a daily basis, a nation that has 1000s of children with empty stomachs tonight, a nation that has elected a barbaric character as leader to turn his back on racial religious based attacks on the innocent should have higher priorities than looking at this and sticking its pigeon chest out.

India has historically been a dumping ground for the likes of Russia to dump sub standard equipment and will continue to be. Its in their nature to suck up to arm supplying nations and insinuate they are a super power.

In reality the millions starve tonight as Modis government continues to pretend they have now become a superpower.

Reading article like below we are shown the harsh reality of what India is and how fast they are getting out of the hole they are in........

https://asiatimes.com/2020/05/no-wall-now-to-hide-indias-extreme-poverty/

 

[The Maverick]

Is India sucking up to Russia France Israel and USA

Or are they arse licking Indian butt hoping to win massive Indian contracts ad they know India has the money to buy and military that needs modernising.

You called dumping substandard Russian weapons

Do you mean 270 su30nmki or the 2000 t90 main battle tanks that India have right now or maybe the akula class nuclear submarine or indeed the jointly developed Brahmos cruise missle.

Finally the engine that powers the low cost budget thunder that China supply you guess what source the engine is

Yep you guessed it rd93 Russia second generation and rather Smokey I beieve

 

[newb3e]

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/22/economy/india-gdp-rbi-coronavirus/index.html

cnn = anti naicional!

 

[Musings]

You called dumping substandard Russian weapons

Yes i did. To be honest purchasing sub standard along with gross incompetency is a potent mixture and India has both.
An example being the Arihant, the first nuclear-missile submarine, do you remember what happened to it? Some retard forgot to close the hatch and boom water flooded the propulsion. Think about it. Any other nation still having errors of this magnitude? Is there any nations out their still flying or using B52s?
I dont like reading article insinuating superpower status bla bla bla when the nation is anything but this. So lets keep it real. Cheers.

 

[The Maverick]

Yes i did. To be honest purchasing sub standard along with gross incompetency is a potent mixture and India has both.
An example being the Arihant, the first nuclear-missile submarine, do you remember what happened to it? Some retard forgot to close the hatch and boom water flooded the propulsion. Think about it. Any other nation still having errors of this magnitude? Is there any nations out their still flying or using B52s?
I dont like reading article insinuating superpower status bla bla bla when the nation is anything but this. So lets keep it real. Cheers.

Don't know about this incident.
I do know arihant exists is the first of 5 nuclear subs that India is building indengious. Probably the only country that will ever achieve that in this region. Infact all of Asia bar China I think.

Not bad for incompetent Indians is it

 

[Musings]

Don't know about this incident.
I do know arihant exists is the first of 5 nuclear subs that India is building indengious. Probably the only country that will ever achieve that in this region. Infact all of Asia bar China I think.

Not bad for incompetent Indians is it

No not bad at all.....

https://www.businessinsider.com/ind...le-sub-damaged-by-open-hatch-2018-1?r=US&IR=T

 

[The Maverick]

No not bad at all.....

https://www.businessinsider.com/ind...le-sub-damaged-by-open-hatch-2018-1?r=US&IR=T

No not bad at all.....

https://www.businessinsider.com/ind...le-sub-damaged-by-open-hatch-2018-1?r=US&IR=T

K4 ballistic missle armed in Arihant x 3500 kilometres
K15 ballistic missles arihat x 650 miles.

THE HATCH SEEMS OK.

INCOMPETENT Indians lol lol but they build nuke subs like USA Russia France China & UK